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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1041 » by umfan83 » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:05 pm

DASMACKDOWN wrote:They were grilling Bill Simmons on Waddle and Silvy.

Talking Bill doesnt know what he is talking about corncerning what JR would be willing to pay or do. Saying how he is dead wrong about him not wanting to pay Carlos Boozer to go away. The said he has already done it with Eddie Robinson and Tim Thomas. Also talked about how he paid JWill when he didnt have to etc etc.

We all know Bill Simmons is basically a fan/homer who happens to be on tv so I dont fault him. He reads these boards and stuff like we do.


What time was that interview? I'd be interested to hear that.
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1042 » by Magilla_Gorilla » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:05 pm

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HTowns Finest wrote:Here is the thing though... that Asik trade Houston made with New Orleans has not finalized yet. Per inside sources there COULD be more to that trade. Or it might open up ground for a SnT in this crazy Melo/Lowry scenario. Not saying it's probable but there is a slight chance for all this to go down.


Ok, so this goes beyond my knowledge of the CBA. So who knows the cap implications of Asik not being finalized. But I'm just counting salary and minimum cap holds. You try to fill in the blanks-

Howard- 21.44
Harden- 14.69
Melo-
Lowry-
Parsons-
cap holds = 3.55 (7x.507)

That's salary of $39.68. Cap is 63.2. Remaining is 23.52. I believe you can trade over the cap but not over the tax apron. So maybe they've got 37.32 to S&T picks and players for Melo and Lowry and sign Parsons.

Even if that happens, they'd have a great starting 5 but 7 vet mins off the bench and McHale as a coach.

I think its asking Melo a lot to put everything on hold for Morey to execute all of this and move to Houston on top of it.


Parsons has a 1.9 million dollar cap hold that counts against available cap room until he is signed/renounced.

They can only S&T into cap room or they have to match salary.
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1043 » by BigUps » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:05 pm

This thread reads like the sports page of the National Enquirer if they actually had a sports page.

Its amazing.
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1044 » by BullsFTW » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:05 pm

DRoseCantStop wrote:https://twitter.com/JLin7/status/484392429278068737

Like what I said, Morey disrespected Lin. That's not good for the Rockets luring future FA's.

Melo should be concern about the loyalty in Houston.
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1045 » by AshyLarrysDiaper » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:05 pm

Magilla_Gorilla wrote:
DASMACKDOWN wrote:They were grilling Bill Simmons on Waddle and Silvy.

Talking Bill doesnt know what he is talking about corncerning what JR would be willing to pay or do. Saying how he is dead wrong about him not wanting to pay Carlos Boozer to go away. The said he has already done it with Eddie Robinson and Tim Thomas. Also talked about how he paid JWill when he didnt have to etc etc.

We all know Bill Simmons is basically a fan/homer who happens to be on tv so I dont fault him. He reads these boards and stuff like we do.



Thats interesting because noth Mac&Spiegs show and B&B on 670 were ripping Simmons yesterday for being 'out of town stupid' about Reinsdorf. Mentioned the same things - Jay Williams, Eddie Robinson, Tim Thomas.


"Out of town stupid" is a perfect way of putting it.
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1046 » by red222 » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:06 pm

aaqubed wrote:
ingvald wrote:
HTowns Finest wrote:Here is the thing though... that Asik trade Houston made with New Orleans has not finalized yet. Per inside sources there COULD be more to that trade. Or it might open up ground for a SnT in this crazy Melo/Lowry scenario. Not saying it's probable but there is a slight chance for all this to go down.


Ok, so this goes beyond my knowledge of the CBA. So who knows the cap implications of Asik not being finalized. But I'm just counting salary and minimum cap holds. You try to fill in the blanks-

Howard- 21.44
Harden- 14.69
Melo-
Lowry-
Parsons-
cap holds = 3.55 (7x.507)

That's salary of $39.68. Cap is 63.2. Remaining is 23.52. I believe you can trade over the cap but not over the tax apron. So maybe they've got 37.32 to S&T picks and players for Melo and Lowry and sign Parsons.

Even if that happens, they'd have a great starting 5 but 7 vet mins off the bench and McHale as a coach.

I think its asking Melo a lot to put everything on hold for Morey to execute all of this and move to Houston on top of it.


I'm pretty sure it's not finalized yet because Asik does not fit into the Pelicans' current cap space. I think they need to drop Austin Rivers on another team or something like that for it to work.
correct it wont be finalized until after the July moratorium.
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1047 » by Magilla_Gorilla » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:07 pm

BullsFTW wrote:
DRoseCantStop wrote:https://twitter.com/JLin7/status/484392429278068737

Like what I said, Morey disrespected Lin. That's not good for the Rockets luring future FA's.

Melo should be concern about the loyalty in Houston.



What a shock. Players are nothing more than game pieces to Morey.
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Post#1048 » by erlim » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:08 pm

thechicago1 wrote:longtime reader but never post, anyway saw this on instagram and thought the caption was interesting...
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Post#1049 » by BullsLakersFan » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:08 pm

Don't know if this was posted, but:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/JLin7/status/484390703099691008[/tweet]

Loyalty =/= Rockets.
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1050 » by AshyLarrysDiaper » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:08 pm

Magilla_Gorilla wrote:
DASMACKDOWN wrote:They were grilling Bill Simmons on Waddle and Silvy.

Talking Bill doesnt know what he is talking about corncerning what JR would be willing to pay or do. Saying how he is dead wrong about him not wanting to pay Carlos Boozer to go away. The said he has already done it with Eddie Robinson and Tim Thomas. Also talked about how he paid JWill when he didnt have to etc etc.

We all know Bill Simmons is basically a fan/homer who happens to be on tv so I dont fault him. He reads these boards and stuff like we do.



Thats interesting because noth Mac&Spiegs show and B&B on 670 were ripping Simmons yesterday for being 'out of town stupid' about Reinsdorf. Mentioned the same things - Jay Williams, Eddie Robinson, Tim Thomas.


"Out of town stupid" is a perfect way of putting it.
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1051 » by kuly1990 » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:09 pm

Jonathan Feigen @Jonathan_Feigen · 13m

I guess we're done here. Melo and party outta here.

@Jonathan_Feigen

Isn't Melo supposed to do Houston and Dallas today both? ---> yep and at this pace could squeeze another
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Post#1052 » by RememberLu » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:09 pm

BullsLakersFan wrote:Don't know if this was posted, but:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/JLin7/status/484390703099691008[/tweet]

Loyalty =/= Rockets.


Didn't realize he was such a Christian
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1053 » by BullsFTW » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:10 pm

Magilla_Gorilla wrote:
BullsFTW wrote:
DRoseCantStop wrote:https://twitter.com/JLin7/status/484392429278068737

Like what I said, Morey disrespected Lin. That's not good for the Rockets luring future FA's.

Melo should be concern about the loyalty in Houston.



What a shock. Players are nothing more than game pieces to Morey.

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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1054 » by AshyLarrysDiaper » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:10 pm

BullsLakersFan wrote:Don't know if this was posted, but:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/JLin7/status/484390703099691008[/tweet]

Loyalty =/= Rockets.


Does this mean Lin's gonna give Melo his Rockets shorts too?
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1055 » by KeithBoothfan » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:10 pm

AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:
Magilla_Gorilla wrote:
DASMACKDOWN wrote:They were grilling Bill Simmons on Waddle and Silvy.

Talking Bill doesnt know what he is talking about corncerning what JR would be willing to pay or do. Saying how he is dead wrong about him not wanting to pay Carlos Boozer to go away. The said he has already done it with Eddie Robinson and Tim Thomas. Also talked about how he paid JWill when he didnt have to etc etc.

We all know Bill Simmons is basically a fan/homer who happens to be on tv so I dont fault him. He reads these boards and stuff like we do.



Thats interesting because noth Mac&Spiegs show and B&B on 670 were ripping Simmons yesterday for being 'out of town stupid' about Reinsdorf. Mentioned the same things - Jay Williams, Eddie Robinson, Tim Thomas.


"Out of town stupid" is a perfect way of putting it.


Simmons always gets a bee in his bonnet when he thinks teams are cheaping out. See his nonstop flogging of the OKC Harden trade. He often makes good points in his rants, but just as often he exaggerates or forms a biased view of what actually happened. So Simmons has the "Reinsdorf is cheap" meme burned into his brain. Oh well, he's not the only one.

In any event, it's no particular talent to talk about how you'd spend more of other people's money than they are.
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Post#1056 » by DRoseCantStop » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:10 pm

Not doing too good for Houston....
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1057 » by Magilla_Gorilla » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:11 pm

kuly1990 wrote:Jonathan Feigen @Jonathan_Feigen · 13m

I guess we're done here. Melo and party outta here.

@Jonathan_Feigen

Isn't Melo supposed to do Houston and Dallas today both? ---> yep and at this pace could squeeze another



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Post#1058 » by BullsLakersFan » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:12 pm

RememberLu wrote:
BullsLakersFan wrote:Don't know if this was posted, but:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/JLin7/status/484390703099691008[/tweet]

Loyalty =/= Rockets.


Didn't realize he was such a Christian


I watched the 'Linsanity' doc like 3 weeks ago, and pretty much everything he said was to follow God's way and believe in him the most when things are not working out the way you want, so yeah, big time religious guy.
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1059 » by davhern » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:12 pm

What I wouldn't give to have been a fly on the wall at that restaurant yesterday...especially for JR's OG schmoozing.
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1060 » by BullsFTW » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:12 pm

kuly1990 wrote:Jonathan Feigen @Jonathan_Feigen · 13m

I guess we're done here. Melo and party outta here.

@Jonathan_Feigen

Isn't Melo supposed to do Houston and Dallas today both? ---> yep and at this pace could squeeze another

Melo still thinking about Chicago's presentation

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