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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1161 » by Michael Jackson » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:43 pm

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So in summary:

-Short 1 hr meeting
-Dwight is an a$$
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-if Lala is hesitant about CHI she is going to shut down the idea of living in HOU fast as frack

Oh and the Lin # thing is overblown, as I noted above he would have to give that number up to Melo regardless because Melo has more time in the league, it doesn't mean he is a goner


He wouldn't HAVE to give it up. Usually players have to pay other players to get their numbers. I don't think it's the biggest thing (re: Melo), but I'm sure he's smart enough to see that it's disrespectful.


I didn't know it worked like that. I thought it was done out of tradition and respect like giving up your chair to an old person



Yeah it is customary to pay a guy for your number.
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1162 » by micromonkey » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:43 pm

HoneyNutCheerio wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/status/484403172060823552[/tweet]


Just saw them go in--I can confirm!
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Post#1163 » by aaqubed » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:43 pm

IndianPlaya17 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/chicagobullsbot/status/484402609172664320[/tweet]


Yeah there are a ton of teams with cap space. Utah has a lot* and has been friendly with our FO in the past (we signed Boozer with a S&T from them to give them a big TPE, they claimed Murphy off waivers to help us get out of the luxury tax).

We could send Boozer and the Sac pick to Utah, our pick next year to the Knicks, and the Knicks could send back Melo at $21M to us. They get a big trade exception and a pick (maybe Mirotic or McDermott as well).

* -- Utah may have to match a max contract offer for Hayward. I'm not sure if they want to do that, but even if they do, I think they should have enough space to take back Boozer. They may need to cut some of their non-guaranteed salary to make it work (or include them in the trade), but it should be doable. There's also Philly and Orlando with a lot of space and I think Atlanta now as well after the Salmons trade.
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1164 » by bearadonisdna » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:44 pm

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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1165 » by CBA » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:44 pm

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Even Morey doesn't have special powers that let him circumvent the salary cap. Only way it hapens is if Lowry & Melo agree to split 21 million.

Here is the thing though... that Asik trade Houston made with New Orleans has not finalized yet. Per inside sources there COULD be more to that trade. Or it might open up ground for a SnT in this crazy Melo/Lowry scenario. Not saying it's probable but there is a slight chance for all this to go down.


Thats because NO needs to clear salary out before they can finalize the deal. Do you think Houston is going to renege on the deal they agreed to with NO? Or are you suggesting that Toronto and NY are going to S&T Lowry and Melo for Lin and Asik?


This is incorrect. Both Houston and New Orleans can fold their agreed to trade into a three team deal where the Rockets can receive a S&T'd Lowry or Carmelo.

Think back to the Iguodala S&T last year.
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1166 » by ingvald » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:44 pm

I beg to differ wrote:
ingvald wrote:S&T for Lowry (at 12) for Jones, D-Mo, Beverly, Caanan leaves $9.1M after cap holds. S&T for Carmelo (at $20M) puts them $10M over the cap, $2.9 under the apron. Can they resign Parsons and go over the apron for any amount? If not, he'd get $5.3M to get up to the apron amount with 7 cap holds.

Of course this doesn't even factor in salary matching and assets needed to send to Toronto and New York to make it happen.

Morey may be good but can he really fleece Phil and Masai like that?

Who are you sending to New York?


No idea. I was just trying to make the trades work to keep them under the cap and apron.

I gotta say, the Five Man Super Team is an interesting pitch, if that was it. But it probably took most of the hour just to explain the mechanics of it all.
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1167 » by WinCity » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:45 pm

micromonkey wrote:
HoneyNutCheerio wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/status/484403172060823552[/tweet]


Just saw them go in--I can confirm!
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That looks like the most awesome Mcdo ever! We are screwwd HOU has got thismlocked up.
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1168 » by ingvald » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:48 pm

SixDemonBag wrote:So is Butler going to be on the move for Melo? Seems Noah, Rose, Taj are talked about as the "core" with no mention of Butler, at least in recent articles.


That's what I initially thought but someone posted an article that Jimmy is part of the core. No idea but I like the idea of a 3 team S&T where we get Melo for magic beans.
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1169 » by Chitownbulls » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:48 pm

OT- did some searching and found some good nikola Mirotic videos. He has a little post game/face up game an likes to take bigs off the dribble. That's good to see.
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1170 » by Michael Jackson » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:48 pm

bearadonisdna wrote:Chicago Bulls Rumors @chicagobullsbot · 11s
Houston Rockets Jeremy Lin reportedly upset the Rockets photoshopped Carmelo Anthony wearing his Houston #7 jersey: pic.twitter.com/3U1cNJY8J2

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Is that confirmed?
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1171 » by LobosJordan » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:49 pm

WinCity wrote:
micromonkey wrote:
HoneyNutCheerio wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/status/484403172060823552[/tweet]


Just saw them go in--I can confirm!
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That looks like the most awesome Mcdo ever! We are screwwd HOU has got thismlocked up.

The McDonalds is bad enough. But to also have a Denny's right next to it?

We are screwed.
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1172 » by Magilla_Gorilla » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:49 pm

ingvald wrote:
I beg to differ wrote:
HTowns Finest wrote:Dude I honestly don't know how they could pull it off either,

Dude, because they can't, brah.


S&T for Lowry (at 12) for Jones, D-Mo, Beverly, Caanan leaves $9.1M after cap holds. S&T for Carmelo (at $20M) puts them $10M over the cap, $2.9 under the apron. Can they resign Parsons and go over the apron for any amount? If not, he'd get $5.3M to get up to the apron amount with 7 cap holds.

Of course this doesn't even factor in salary matching and assets needed to send to Toronto and New York to make it happen.

Morey may be good but can he really fleece Phil and Masai like that?


You can't sign and trade a 20 million dollar contract into 10 million in cap space.
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1173 » by dmk08 » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:49 pm

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bearadonisdna wrote:Chicago Bulls Rumors @chicagobullsbot · 11s
Houston Rockets Jeremy Lin reportedly upset the Rockets photoshopped Carmelo Anthony wearing his Houston #7 jersey: pic.twitter.com/3U1cNJY8J2

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Is that confirmed?

Yes they did photoshop it and yes he did post that on twitter.
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1174 » by umfan83 » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:49 pm

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I'm telling you, Dwight Howard has a way of turning you off.

When I met him during the lockout, one of the first things I said to him was, "so you must really be missing playing right now" and his answer was, "Nah, not really. Now I have time to explore other things."


Genuinely curious. How did you meet him? Part of your job? Or did you just run into him somewhere?


It was part of my job. Can't talk about it too much, but I work in Hollywood and he was interested in getting into acting. I'm not in casting, but our casting department knew I was really into basketball and asked me to join them.


So I have this script I wrote. It's kind of a passion project. I'd love to get it in front of the right people.

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Post#1175 » by johnnyvann840 » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:49 pm

Magilla_Gorilla wrote:
TyrusRose2425 wrote:How long was that meeting? An Hour?



I think a little over an hour. Took at least 20 minutes to get introduced to each of Dwights kids and baby-momma's.


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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1176 » by MGB8 » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:50 pm

Re Kyle Lowry, could Houston use a trade exception from Asik or Lin (along with a pick)? Of course, not sure what they would pay to dump Lin and what they would send back to NY for Melo. Unless Harden is the one that is going out...
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1177 » by bearadonisdna » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:51 pm

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bearadonisdna wrote:Chicago Bulls Rumors @chicagobullsbot · 11s
Houston Rockets Jeremy Lin reportedly upset the Rockets photoshopped Carmelo Anthony wearing his Houston #7 jersey: pic.twitter.com/3U1cNJY8J2

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Luke 6:29 - If someone slaps you on one cheek, turn to them the other also. If someone takes your coat, do not withhold your shirt from them



Is that confirmed?


That lin is perturbed? sure sounds like it to me. Yes its confirmed the roskets made a photoshooped poster of melo wearing lins jersey while he is still on the roster.
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1178 » by ingvald » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:51 pm

Magilla_Gorilla wrote:
ingvald wrote:
I beg to differ wrote:Dude, because they can't, brah.


S&T for Lowry (at 12) for Jones, D-Mo, Beverly, Caanan leaves $9.1M after cap holds. S&T for Carmelo (at $20M) puts them $10M over the cap, $2.9 under the apron. Can they resign Parsons and go over the apron for any amount? If not, he'd get $5.3M to get up to the apron amount with 7 cap holds.

Of course this doesn't even factor in salary matching and assets needed to send to Toronto and New York to make it happen.

Morey may be good but can he really fleece Phil and Masai like that?


You can't sign and trade a 20 million dollar contract into 10 million in cap space.


Ok. So the previous trade of Asik has to be turned into a series of multi-team S&Ts then. If that's the pitch, there has to be a house-of-cards scenario figured out by Morey. I'd pay a dollar to watch the power point though.
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1179 » by ctorres » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:52 pm

Knicks fan here, I come in peace.

What's keeping the Bulls from amnestying or trading Boozer? I mean, if the reports are true that Melo turned down $15 million a year from the Bulls, then why not just clear the extra cap space?

I honestly think Melo would go to the Bulls if they freed up more cap room. Bulls are the best team for Melo. I don't see a sign and trade happening unless the Bulls can free up more than the $15 million they have in space. Knicks can just tell Melo to sign with a team out west who has cap room like the Lakers.
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1180 » by WinCity » Wed Jul 2, 2014 6:52 pm

umfan83 wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:
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Genuinely curious. How did you meet him? Part of your job? Or did you just run into him somewhere?


It was part of my job. Can't talk about it too much, but I work in Hollywood and he was interested in getting into acting. I'm not in casting, but our casting department knew I was really into basketball and asked me to join them.


So I have this script I wrote. It's kind of a passion project. I'd love to get it in front of the right people.

(jk :))



Let me guess its a TV pilot about nothing :-)

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