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Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew

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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1241 » by Tetlak » Wed Jul 2, 2014 7:21 pm

Magilla_Gorilla wrote:
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Got to include...


No it doesnt. They can amnesty Boozer and send the unguaranteeds and Dunleavy and such and end up at around 18-20 mil for Melo's first year.


They'd have to include Butler and Snell to get to 18 million, and the only way they can get to 20 is to include Taj.


As far as I know, a Boozer amnesty nets us 11 mil or so. Unguaranteeds and Dunleavy add up to 7. Perhaps I am not accounting for taking on Randolph though when it comes to the amnesty cap part.
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1242 » by dmk08 » Wed Jul 2, 2014 7:21 pm

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David Nuño @DavidNunoABC13
A patron walks by says they are still meeting, in a private room. Big smile followed. #Rockets #MeloToHouston #abc13



He smiled!!!!

The meeting was supposed to be short, and yet they're stil in it. THat's a telltale sign to me

Then what about the Bulls meeting lasting over 9 hours?
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1243 » by Land Rover » Wed Jul 2, 2014 7:22 pm

Magilla_Gorilla wrote:
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David Nuño @DavidNunoABC13
A patron walks by says they are still meeting, in a private room. Big smile followed. #Rockets #MeloToHouston #abc13



He smiled!!!!


A patron even smiled, ITS IN THE BAG! OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1244 » by Darius Miles Davis » Wed Jul 2, 2014 7:22 pm

ctorres wrote:Knicks fan here, I come in peace.

What's keeping the Bulls from amnestying or trading Boozer? I mean, if the reports are true that Melo turned down $15 million a year from the Bulls, then why not just clear the extra cap space?

I honestly think Melo would go to the Bulls if they freed up more cap room. Bulls are the best team for Melo. I don't see a sign and trade happening unless the Bulls can free up more than the $15 million they have in space. Knicks can just tell Melo to sign with a team out west who has cap room like the Lakers.


Bulls don't have that cap room right now. They can get 15 mil if they amnesty Boozer and trade a few easily moved players. If we also traded Gibson too, we could open up enough to give him his max deal or close to it, but that option is apparently not on the table. I think it should be. However, Melo would also want Gibson to stay if he was coming.

So the only options are to 1) trade Booz to the Knicks in a sign and trade for Melo. Knicks say they don't want Booz, so we would have to really sweeten the pot, or 2) to engineer a 3 way trade with Boozer going to another team, which includes two pots we would have to sweeten. Difficult but perhaps possible.
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1245 » by blumeany » Wed Jul 2, 2014 7:22 pm

:lol: Houston fans sound just like we did yesterday. Just get it over with already. :)
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1246 » by davhern » Wed Jul 2, 2014 7:22 pm

[GR] wrote:
Magilla_Gorilla wrote:
[GR] wrote:

David Nuño @DavidNunoABC13
A patron walks by says they are still meeting, in a private room. Big smile followed. #Rockets #MeloToHouston #abc13



He smiled!!!!

The meeting was supposed to be short, and yet they're stil in it. THat's a telltale sign to me


The Bulls meeting lasted 9 hours.

Bulls it is!
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Post#1247 » by GOBULLS » Wed Jul 2, 2014 7:22 pm

Little Nathan wrote:
RememberLu wrote:it sounds like Houston has him until he visits the Mavs, at which point it'll sound like the Mavs have him


Then he'll head back to New York and it sounds like the Knicks have him.


Don't forget Lakers have him after Mavs, at which point it'll sound like the Lakers have him. THEN, Knicks will have him lol
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1248 » by Magilla_Gorilla » Wed Jul 2, 2014 7:22 pm

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Future Coach wrote:Question here as I have been traveling and can't come close to keeping pace with these threads....

Melo said he wouldn't accept $15mil a year here?

I trust that to be true given the way he insisted NY gut its roster so he could get the max before, but weren't there also reports he wants the Bulls to keep Taj and Butler?

I hope to keep Taj, and to a lesser extent Butler, but for both reports to be a reality would make things pretty tricky it seems.

This is why I said I don't see Carmelo going to Chicago but some here flamed me lol. I think Melo is at a crossroads though. He has to choose between money (NY) or championship contender (CHI/HOU). The ball is in his court.



Whether its Hou or Chi they're going to have to gut their teams (or S&T with NY) if they want to pay him 20+.
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1249 » by Darius Miles Davis » Wed Jul 2, 2014 7:22 pm

[GR] wrote:SOunds like Houston has him. Sorry guys.

And the sad part is, the Knicks get nothing in return if he goes to Houston


Based on what? Links or sources, please.
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Post#1250 » by Andi Obst » Wed Jul 2, 2014 7:23 pm

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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1251 » by HTowns Finest » Wed Jul 2, 2014 7:23 pm

Magic24 wrote:
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MGB8 wrote:Re Kyle Lowry, could Houston use a trade exception from Asik or Lin (along with a pick)? Of course, not sure what they would pay to dump Lin and what they would send back to NY for Melo. Unless Harden is the one that is going out...

Per CBA rules you can't use a trade exception on a free agent even in a SnT.

You can.

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Teams cannot use trade exceptions to sign free agents; they can be used only to acquire existing contracts from other teams. However, a team can acquire a free agent using a trade exception if he is signed by his prior team and traded in a sign-and-trade transaction (see question number 90).


http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm

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Post#1252 » by Michael Jackson » Wed Jul 2, 2014 7:25 pm

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How does it sound like Houston has him lol.

Just the way things sound I guess on twitter, and clutchfans.


I'm sold.

I can't see Melo passing up Bev, Harden, Parsons, and Dwight just to avoid the West.


I can. Personally, I think its New York or Chicago, and most likely New York. But maybe I'm wrong. In any event, I've already lost interest on any other destination than Chicago.

If he goes west, as a Bulls fan I don't have to worry about him. (Plus I think he's an absolutely terrible fit in Houston and I have no idea why they are even recruiting him.) If he goes to NY, I think its a logical choice for him to make on many levels, and don't begrudge him a bit.



If anything I see Melo using the other three teams to force Phil to S&T so as not to gut Chicago. That being said my odds are 60/40 New York. He wants the Knicks they have the money but I really see this as a two horse race.
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Post#1253 » by thejet1711 » Wed Jul 2, 2014 7:25 pm

lol @ butthurt knick fans..

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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1254 » by GOBULLS » Wed Jul 2, 2014 7:25 pm

davhern wrote:
[GR] wrote:
Magilla_Gorilla wrote:

He smiled!!!!

The meeting was supposed to be short, and yet they're stil in it. THat's a telltale sign to me


Telltale sign that they are probably sitting together and laughing at Jeremy Lin's tweets. Melo laughs too while thinking to himself, 'What idiots...they just alienated their own player!!!'

The whole world knew that Boozer was gone either through trade or amnesty.
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Post#1255 » by gmoney411 » Wed Jul 2, 2014 7:25 pm

DuckIII wrote:
[GR] wrote:
Eddy_JukeZ wrote:
How does it sound like Houston has him lol.

Just the way things sound I guess on twitter, and clutchfans.


I'm sold.

I can't see Melo passing up Bev, Harden, Parsons, and Dwight just to avoid the West.


I can. Personally, I think its New York or Chicago, and most likely New York. But maybe I'm wrong. In any event, I've already lost interest on any other destination than Chicago.

If he goes west, as a Bulls fan I don't have to worry about him. (Plus I think he's an absolutely terrible fit in Houston and I have no idea why they are even recruiting him.) If he goes to NY, I think its a logical choice for him to make on many levels, and don't begrudge him a bit.


If they plan on keeping Parsons they will use him as a stretch 4 where he was often at his best at in NY. He fits perfectly into the offense in that role.
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1256 » by BullsFTW » Wed Jul 2, 2014 7:26 pm

[GR] wrote:
Magilla_Gorilla wrote:
[GR] wrote:

David Nuño @DavidNunoABC13
A patron walks by says they are still meeting, in a private room. Big smile followed. #Rockets #MeloToHouston #abc13



He smiled!!!!

The meeting was supposed to be short, and yet they're stil in it. THat's a telltale sign to me

So the Bulls met him for 9 hours, what does that tell you?

Also, he was in Chicago for nearly 24 hours.
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1257 » by Nikos Beard » Wed Jul 2, 2014 7:26 pm

OMFG THE DUDE SMILED!!!! #MELOTOROCKETS!!


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Post#1258 » by Jordan45822 » Wed Jul 2, 2014 7:26 pm

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if anyone thought Cuban was going to pull what Houston or Chicago did. Nah not his style
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1259 » by DuckIII » Wed Jul 2, 2014 7:27 pm

[GR] wrote:
Magilla_Gorilla wrote:
[GR] wrote:

David Nuño @DavidNunoABC13
A patron walks by says they are still meeting, in a private room. Big smile followed. #Rockets #MeloToHouston #abc13



He smiled!!!!

The meeting was supposed to be short, and yet they're stil in it. THat's a telltale sign to me


I want to make sure I understand the basis for your posts.

1. A photo of Carmelo Anthony in a lobby in Houston, with details of a friends friend who said nothing more than that Houston is selling Melo hard on winning championships.

2. A tweet about "a patron" in a restuarant that smiled when saying Melo was still at his lunch meeting.

3. The length of the meeting, based on the assumption that was supposed to "be short." To what report are you referring that the meeting with Houston was to be short?
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Re: Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew 

Post#1260 » by Moobs » Wed Jul 2, 2014 7:27 pm

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[GR] wrote:SOunds like Houston has him. Sorry guys.

And the sad part is, the Knicks get nothing in return if he goes to Houston


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