Lin feeling disrespected?

[criteriado]

At least they should have said something to Lin's agents about that. It's not like this isn't planned. Classless.

Just imagine that you're an employee and while you're on holidays, your boss makes an statement saying that they want another high profile employee to take your salary and they want to dump you.

[Cracklenuts]

I'll never understand the hate Lin gets from NBA fans.

fixed.

[Vator]

That stuff about "true" fans is honestly just childish and I would hope that mods wouldn't be making divisive comments like that but I understand that there is not a maturity threshold for RealGM posters or mods. Lin is not the divisive force- you are.

Once again you're just proving my point. Angry posting with insults and yet I've yet to insult a single person in this thread and I won't because that isn't what I do. I've given my opinion and yet I'm the "childish" one that lacks maturity when the Jeremy Lin supporters such as yourself come out and start bashing me for having a difference of opinion. This is just a microcosm of the exact problem that has plagued Rockets forum talk for the past 2 years.

[tbytc]

lin wouldnt even be in the league if he weren't asian. he has sub-darrick murray level talent

A pg coming from the bench averaging 12.5/4.1 ast 44.6%field goal in only 29 min can't even make the league?
Seriously?
He is almost the best backup point guard in the league.

[cw3k]

Who cares what Lin thinks or feels. Melo > Lin

That's not the point.

The point is the executive made a bad decision to disrespect one of their player (employee). NBA is a presented as professional organization and should acted like one.

[TheBigBoss]

I've told people I know that this is the hardest Rockets organization or "Rockets culture" for me to root for in the 30 years or so I've been a fan. Someone the other day told me I was being "spoiled" when talking about Morey, because of what Morey has done (in a positive sense).

This (the topic of this thread) is the type of thing that has me down on the organization. And this is not an outlier, IMO.

It's sad. Things don't have to be done this way. But they are done this way. And that is why people become alienated, IMO.

Me too. It seems that the fans from 15-30 years ago are completely different from the one today, I think they were a lot more modest and humble than they are now. The crazy amount of disrespect from the Houston organisation and fans was enough for me to leave a forum so bias you think it was some kind of cult. Race is part of it, but why when corporate sponsors from Asia are supporting Houston? I didn't see that kind of hatred when he was at GSW or at NYK.

Sad to see this kind of disrespect towards someone who became the first Asian-American to play in the NBA and coming from the end of the bench who was a game away from retiring to becoming a full time starter. Lin is a great player and all round nice guy, never seen the guy try to diss off anyone or try to disrespect anyone.

Luckily there are other higher quality and professional teams (and fans) in the NBA that Lin can go to, that's why we can still love this game.

Lin was NOT the first Asian American player to play in the NBA, that honor belongs to Utah born Japanese American Wataru Misaka, who was drafted by the Knicks back in the 1940's, and was a huge MSG fan favorite at that time.

[tbytc]

Since the Rockets apparently attempted a cover-up, I think it's pretty obvious they are well aware how bad this looks on them.

Except to some posters on this thread, I guess.

Well, those die-hard harden fans in this thread still think it is fine.

[baki]

I just don't understand the need to put up a giant picture of Melo in a Rockets jersey. The Bulls did it too. Do they really think that picture is going to convince Melo to sign there? Why is it so important to have the number 7 on the jersey? Would Melo have refused to sign if they used #15 or just left the number off altogether? The whole thing is silly when you look at it logically.

I'd be pissed too if I was Lin. For the last year, he's had to listen to people saying the Rockets will dump him if Melo agrees to come to Houston. Now they hang up a picture of him in Lin's jersey? Talk about a slap in the face. It was Morey's dumb idea to offer that contract in the first place, you can't blame Lin for signing it.

That's true. Lin has only been paid $5 million per year for 2 years at Houston, it's just the 3rd year payout that is scaring everybody off. Morey did that because it would make it impossible for the Knicks to resign him due to taxation.

In reality, Lin and Asik were just pawns in Houston and they knew it.

[tbytc]

As stated above, Beverley knew of number change beforehand and gave his consent. The Rockets never informed Lin and LIED to the public about the consent, big difference here. This "non-issue" is perhaps another tidbit which substantiates the claims that Lin has been treated like trash all along??

But fair enough. So you know, no one will be more elated and relieved than Lin fans when he gets traded so I guess he feeling is mutual.

The Rockets put together a similar presentation for Dwight last year. Beverley wanted Dwight on the team and said that he didn't care what number he wore and would let Dwight have 12 if he signed with Houston.

man, just stop it...they did the same thing for dwight but they made sure you can't see the number

So it became a tradition for the organization to disrespect its own players and fans are ok with it?

[baki]

Lin was NOT the first Asian American player to play in the NBA, that honor belongs to Utah born Japanese American Wataru Misaka, who was drafted by the Knicks back in the 1940's, and was a huge MSG fan favorite at that time.

First real Asian-American player in the NBA, not a tryout or exhibition player who played a few games that few people know about.

Besides Wataru only played 3 games.

[baki]

You make his point by throwing out hyperbolic statements ("worshiper") and acting childish.

I honestly don't expect you to understand what I meant by worshiper. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but Lin's fans are some of the most rabid fans I've ever seen in my life. True NY Knick fans and true Houston Rockets fans who were, are, and will continue to be fans of those teams whether or not Jeremy Lin is around know and whatever team he goes to next will eventually find out as well unless Lin is given the starting PG spot and plays significant minutes during the game and in the 4th quarter. Lin's mere presence on the team has been a divisive force within the internet fan base for various reasons. It started originally with him being compared to Kyle Lowry and Goran Dragic by Rockets fans, his supporters insistence that he was one of the top PGs in the NBA and was being held back to which there was always some kind of statistical analysis to support this notion, and eventually spiraled into claims of things such as bullying by his teammates and racial discrimination. I'm just done. No offense to him. I think he is a good player and an even better person, but yeah...

That stuff about "true" fans is honestly just childish and I would hope that mods wouldn't be making divisive comments like that but I understand that there is not a maturity threshold for RealGM posters or mods. Lin is not the divisive force- you are.

Basketball is a sport and there are all different kinds of fans. Fans who began to follow the team since Lin joined deserve just as much respect as you or anyone else. And some fans, who I found to be perfectly rational and logical, who were more likely than others to use actual stats to support their arguments, felt like Lin was getting the shaft by McHale and the coaching staff. It doesn't make them rabid or irrational or deserving of any of the vitriol they received on Clutchfans or any other site. The Clutchfans admin and mods such as yourself perpetuate hatred of other fans and create divisions using and allowing use of terms such as LOF and such. Really it's just childish, bullying, and hateful and if you have a moderator role, you should strive to rise above it.

I don't really care enough to get into a drawn out debate about it, and I guess I shouldn't expect more from sports boards, but I just don't like to see online bullying behavior over such silliness and wish that people treated each other better.

Is it possible to vote you as Moderator instead of this guy? Well said BTW.

[Bill Bradley]

That stuff about "true" fans is honestly just childish and I would hope that mods wouldn't be making divisive comments like that but I understand that there is not a maturity threshold for RealGM posters or mods. Lin is not the divisive force- you are.

Once again you're just proving my point. Angry posting with insults and yet I've yet to insult a single person in this thread and I won't because that isn't what I do. I've given my opinion and yet I'm the "childish" one that lacks maturity when the Jeremy Lin supporters such as yourself come out and start bashing me for having a difference of opinion. This is just a microcosm of the exact problem that has plagued Rockets forum talk for the past 2 years.

No anger here- I actually don't care much- I'm calmly pointing out childish behavior. I'm not attacking you, just calling it as I see it. Whenever anyone says that someone is not a "true fan" and justifies mistreatment of others for being a fan of a player, you've gone to an immature place. You may be insulted by that, but it doesn't make it any less true.

[baki]

Was I wrong? Did Houston not get slapped around by Aldridge?

So you type in "LOL" as if it did not happen?

You don't remember this LOL worthy moment?



..Cause I do.

LOL.

I was actually talking bout your first sentence about how free agents shouldnt consider Houston based on this Lin situation.


Plus you are a Raptors fan. Enjoy being mediocre in the weak East for years to come.

Talking about mediocre from a Rocket fan. LOL
Rocket only made it to the second round once for the last 15-20 years. How do you feel about that?

Nothing should pisses me off more than that play (thank you Harden! thank you McHale!), but funnily enough I can accept it because I knew we were never going to get out of the 1st round anyway.

[13th Man]

I'm still angry because of any team that had a real shot at the Spurs, it was the Rockets.

[tbytc]

I'm still angry because of any team that had a real shot at the Spurs, it was the Rockets.

LOL. Whatever

[13th Man]

I'm still angry because of any team that had a real shot at the Spurs, it was the Rockets.

LOL. Whatever

Rockets had their number all season, it's a matchup thing.

[Steven1562]

I'm still angry because of any team that had a real shot at the Spurs, it was the Rockets.

[tbytc]

I'm still angry because of any team that had a real shot at the Spurs, it was the Rockets.

LOL. Whatever

Rockets had their number all season, it's a matchup thing.

Comparing season to playoff. Every basketball fans know regular season means ****, especially for Spurs.
Rocket 3-1 Blazers
Nets 4-0 heats etc.

[ocelot17]

At least they should have said something to Lin's agents about that. It's not like this isn't planned. Classless.

Just imagine that you're an employee and while you're on holidays, your boss makes an statement saying that they want another high profile employee to take your salary and they want to dump you.

Carmelo is no "taking" Lins salary. Lin will still be paid regardless if he gets traded or not.

You can't compare basketball to real world job. Trades is a part of sports business. Have you ever been traded from your job?

[Shock Defeat]

Should've stayed with the Knicks, Jeremy. You were a God in NY!!

Not Lin's fault Knicks didn't match the contract.