Lin feeling disrespected?

[76ciology]

Maybe it's 1, not 7

[KI-DW-TT-AB]

Maybe it's 1, not 7

its 7

[cold_cowboy]

Then why did they feel the need to lie about it to Woj and get caught redhanded in their lie by Woj? They could have avoided all of this just by being professional and had the respect and courtesy to at least give Lin a heads up about using his number in the promo stuff. Instead of being forced to lie to Woj to cover their tracks and now doing damage control.

The Rockets screwed up. I'm sure Morey would rather be dealing with happy questions about free agency and potential prospects and signings, rather than have to go out and do a damage control speech over this PR flub after their attempt to lie to Woj failed.

nobody cares what executives say.

everybody cares what players say.

ask a casual fan who jeremy lin is and ask a casual fan who daryl morey is, you can guess the responses. and i agree with you, they could have avoided this by just telling jeremy, obviously tried to cover it up and failed, but nobody will care. nobody is going to fire daryl for that, but teams might view jeremy differently after he publicly shows dissatisfaction in something that is typical for the business.

[Mamba Venom]

Daryl Morey:

It's always a challenging situation during free agency. You are always having to recruit players and there might be current players at current positions, might be people with the current numbers. It's unfortunate that it's often hard to handle. Reality is it's standard practice. When we went after Chris Bosh a few years ago, we had him in Luis Scola's number. When we went after Dwight Howard he had [Patrick] Beverley's number. I get the sensitivity and I hate that it creates some hurt feelings. I don't like that, but that's obviously Carmelo Anthony's number, that's the number he wants. He told us that. Bottomline, if Carmelo comes Omer Asik and Jeremy Lin have to be traded. It's just math. It's not personal. My job is every day [to] figure out how to win. Sometimes it creates challenging situations.

Classless move by Houston. If Houston was a genuine Melo fan they would have put him in #15 which is not taken.

[KI-DW-TT-AB]

Morey job is to recruit the best player available for the team
if he has to care about everyone feeling he can't do his job
he did it last year with Pat Beverley #12 for Dwight Howard
he did it few years ago with Luis Scola #4 for Chris Bosh
those two don't seem to have a problem

So it became a tradition?

Melo is wearing #7
you want him to feel like home so you put him in #7 jersey
how will he feel if he see he's wearing #8?

if Morey is recruiting LeBron James and put him in Rockets #6 jersey
do you think Terrence Jones will have problem with it?

what are you even talking about, 15 is Melo's number, has been in college and his entire nba career up until Knicks where he had to choose a different number since it was retired.

So it's not like they had no other alternative, hell they could have also went with #22 (his high school #) to personalize, but what makes it THAT bad is acquiring Melo would mean Lin would have to be moved, he's being pushed out, everyone knows this, and to wear his number.

Completely different than the other scenarios you listed.

[cold_cowboy]

Daryl Morey:

It's always a challenging situation during free agency. You are always having to recruit players and there might be current players at current positions, might be people with the current numbers. It's unfortunate that it's often hard to handle. Reality is it's standard practice. When we went after Chris Bosh a few years ago, we had him in Luis Scola's number. When we went after Dwight Howard he had [Patrick] Beverley's number. I get the sensitivity and I hate that it creates some hurt feelings. I don't like that, but that's obviously Carmelo Anthony's number, that's the number he wants. He told us that. Bottomline, if Carmelo comes Omer Asik and Jeremy Lin have to be traded. It's just math. It's not personal. My job is every day [to] figure out how to win. Sometimes it creates challenging situations.

Classless move by Houston. If Houston was a genuine Melo fan they would have put him in #15 which is not taken.

he hasn't worn #15 in 4 years, makes no sense.

[Peregrine01]

Umm....how is the Beverly situation even remotely the same?

1. Rockets sought bevs approval, which they got.
2. Bev wasn't going to be moved for Howard.

Morey trying to cover his ass and doing a terrible job yet again.

[KI-DW-TT-AB]

Daryl Morey:

It's always a challenging situation during free agency. You are always having to recruit players and there might be current players at current positions, might be people with the current numbers. It's unfortunate that it's often hard to handle. Reality is it's standard practice. When we went after Chris Bosh a few years ago, we had him in Luis Scola's number. When we went after Dwight Howard he had [Patrick] Beverley's number. I get the sensitivity and I hate that it creates some hurt feelings. I don't like that, but that's obviously Carmelo Anthony's number, that's the number he wants. He told us that. Bottomline, if Carmelo comes Omer Asik and Jeremy Lin have to be traded. It's just math. It's not personal. My job is every day [to] figure out how to win. Sometimes it creates challenging situations.

Classless move by Houston. If Houston was a genuine Melo fan they would have put him in #15 which is not taken.

he hasn't worn #15 in 4 years, makes no sense.

Like I said, he wore #15 for much longer than he wore #7 and him wearing #15 wasn't planned like LeBron's number change, it was just based on a circumstance where #15 was retired.

[KI-DW-TT-AB]

Wait the Asik trade to NO didn't go through yet?

[MaxRider]

So it became a tradition?

Melo is wearing #7
you want him to feel like home so you put him in #7 jersey
how will he feel if he see he's wearing #8?

if Morey is recruiting LeBron James and put him in Rockets #6 jersey
do you think Terrence Jones will have problem with it?

what are you even talking about, 15 is Melo's number, has been in college and his entire nba career up until Knicks where he had to choose a different number since it was retired.

So it's not like they had no other alternative, hell they could have also went with #22 (his high school #) to personalize, but what makes it THAT bad is acquiring Melo would mean Lin would have to be moved, he's being pushed out, everyone knows this, and to wear his number.

Completely different than the other scenarios you listed.

when you go recruit LeBron James are you going to put him in your team jersey #6 or #23?
when you go recruit Kobe Bryant are you going to use #8?
of course you go with his latest jersey #

[MaxRider]

Wait the Asik trade to NO didn't go through yet?

not official yet

[disenfranchised]

All I know is, Lin is a damn good player. His first step and ability to get into the lane is elite. Some players just never get a fair shake. Heck, most people don't get a fair shake. That's life. I think Lin has been black balled his entire career.

[KI-DW-TT-AB]

Melo is wearing #7
you want him to feel like home so you put him in #7 jersey
how will he feel if he see he's wearing #8?

if Morey is recruiting LeBron James and put him in Rockets #6 jersey
do you think Terrence Jones will have problem with it?

what are you even talking about, 15 is Melo's number, has been in college and his entire nba career up until Knicks where he had to choose a different number since it was retired.

So it's not like they had no other alternative, hell they could have also went with #22 (his high school #) to personalize, but what makes it THAT bad is acquiring Melo would mean Lin would have to be moved, he's being pushed out, everyone knows this, and to wear his number.

Completely different than the other scenarios you listed.

when you go recruit LeBron James are you going to put him in your team jersey #6 or #23?
when you go recruit Kobe Bryant are you going to use #8?
of course you go with his latest jersey #

LeBron filed for # change like a year prior to going to Miami (which just happen to have #23 retired)

Obviously same with Kobe.

Melo number change was because he had to.

[red32]

Melo is wearing #7
you want him to feel like home so you put him in #7 jersey
how will he feel if he see he's wearing #8?

if Morey is recruiting LeBron James and put him in Rockets #6 jersey
do you think Terrence Jones will have problem with it?

what are you even talking about, 15 is Melo's number, has been in college and his entire nba career up until Knicks where he had to choose a different number since it was retired.

So it's not like they had no other alternative, hell they could have also went with #22 (his high school #) to personalize, but what makes it THAT bad is acquiring Melo would mean Lin would have to be moved, he's being pushed out, everyone knows this, and to wear his number.

Completely different than the other scenarios you listed.

when you go recruit LeBron James are you going to put him in your team jersey #6 or #23?
when you go recruit Kobe Bryant are you going to use #8?
of course you go with his latest jersey #

13.

[TommyTBolt]

No one in their right minds would've matched that abomination of a contract!

I agree if Lin wanted to be in NY he wouldn't have signed the "poison pill". There is a difference between getting good offers your company / team can compete with and expecting them to match or at least get close to the offer its completely different to bring them something you know they can't match, in that case you made a choice to chase the money and it's not your previous team / companies fault you left.

At that time, Harden wasn't there when they pursue Lin, and there wasn't other star players who would take the ball away from him comparing there were Melo, Jr in New York.
So basically Rocket offer lin more money and better chance to prove himselfs, and it is very stupid to turn down that offer.

1) As another poster pointed out Knicks gave him FAR more endorsement possibilities and even if he was relegated to the bench because of poor coaching or lack of experience for the vet min he would still have made up a significant chunk of the money. Money difference is only in guaranteed dollars and maybe a little more overall depending on his "star power" on future performance but its hardly a blowout.

2) Knicks and Houston weren't the only teams in the league, he could have signed a more respectable offer from a different team and given the Knicks a realistic chance to match. If he signs for 4 years for 24 million dollars with Orlando or someone (anyone, doesnt matter the team, just the dollars and the contract structure) the Knicks would have at least had to think about it and make a decision based on if they thought he fit the team or if they could win with them, versus having literally no chance but to let him walk unless they wanted to play salary cap Russian roulette.

YOU CAN NOT act like the Knicks disrespected his ability and let him walk on those grounds when it was clearly because of the structure of his contract and nothing more. Lin is very smart and the fact he signed a contract like that signals to me that he didn't want the spotlight media attention on a **** Knicks team and future chemistry problems with Melo because of the way the media would pimp every bad stretch. He wanted to go to a smaller market and concentrate more on developing his game rather than be distracted with the extra attention NYC would bring. Nothing about this is a judgement on Lin, he did what he thought was best for his own interests both financially, career wise and for his mind / happiness (maybe not living quite AS much of a circus).

Bottom line nothing that happened with him leaving the Knicks was disrespect. Knicks were the team that put him on the map and were the team that actually gave him a chance not only to just be on the team but to get on the court. I loved every minute he was with the Knicks and wanted him to stay and don't disparage him for leaving. I have alot of faith in his abilities and intangibles and think he is a solid player and doesn't deserve the disrespect Houston treats him with but I do not feel he has been constantly disrespected. Only disrespect I see was him not getting any high D1 offers. But you can't blame NBA teams for being disrespectful when they bring him to camp or summer league or sign him and put him on the bench. They owe him nothing. If they don't play him it's stupidity not disrespect. Johnny Unitas was cut by the Pittsburgh Steelers. Not every great player (and Lin is nowhere close to that level) comes from the no.1 draft pick or the lotto. People put too much stock in that, but then their are threads about how a guy who was the star players on a Final Four Team and just went 30 something and 1 this year with 1 loss to the eventual no.2 team loaded with NBA players and the kid balled his ass off in that game (Cleanthony Early) about how he wasn't worth the 34th pick. It's hardly disrespect that a kid from Harvard who doesn't have off the charts measurable might slip through the cracks.

If it's some great racist conspiracy how did Yi Jinlain (sp?) whatever that scrubs name was get picked so high. HE HAD MEASURABLES, HEIGHT IN PARTICULAR which fuel the draft while things like intangibles get overlooked (stupidity not disrespect) and their is a safety valve for that which is TRY OUTS, D LEAGUE, EUROPE, ASIA, other places to keep improving your game and get back to another TRYOUT or 10 DAY or whatever to prove you worth. It sucks some guys get it easy and some guys have to do it the hard way but Lin isn't some victim in all this. Other than his current team doesn't value him appropriately or understand locker room culture because its a bunch of EGGHEADS running things and don't even see it is FOUL to pull the stunts they are pulling and that those types of operations usually start strong and end badly when they have no goodwill left amongst fellow teams, agents, free agents, ect.

[MaxRider]

LeBron filed for # change like a year prior to going to Miami (which just happen to have #23 retired)

Obviously same with Kobe.

Melo number change was because he had to.

but Kobe #8 is not retired yet
he just change it to his high school #24

so when you go recruit Chris Bosh are you going to use #1 or #4?
same for Kyle Lowry are you going to use #7 or #1? (he wear #1 in college and in Memphis)

[MaxRider]

what are you even talking about, 15 is Melo's number, has been in college and his entire nba career up until Knicks where he had to choose a different number since it was retired.

So it's not like they had no other alternative, hell they could have also went with #22 (his high school #) to personalize, but what makes it THAT bad is acquiring Melo would mean Lin would have to be moved, he's being pushed out, everyone knows this, and to wear his number.

Completely different than the other scenarios you listed.

when you go recruit LeBron James are you going to put him in your team jersey #6 or #23?
when you go recruit Kobe Bryant are you going to use #8?
of course you go with his latest jersey #

13.

then LeBron is going to give you a what the .... look

[KI-DW-TT-AB]

LeBron filed for # change like a year prior to going to Miami (which just happen to have #23 retired)

Obviously same with Kobe.

Melo number change was because he had to.

but Kobe #8 is not retired yet
he just change it to his high school #24

so when you go recruit Chris Bosh are you going to use #1 or #4?
same for Kyle Lowry are you going to use #7 or #1? (he wear #1 in college and in Memphis)

Those were willing # changes they did for no reason.

Melo's wasn't.

As for Kyle I'm using #15 since that's apparently what he's going to wear next year.

[XxIronChainzxX]

LeBron filed for # change like a year prior to going to Miami (which just happen to have #23 retired)

Obviously same with Kobe.

Melo number change was because he had to.

but Kobe #8 is not retired yet
he just change it to his high school #24

so when you go recruit Chris Bosh are you going to use #1 or #4?
same for Kyle Lowry are you going to use #7 or #1? (he wear #1 in college and in Memphis)

Those were willing # changes they did for no reason.

Melo's wasn't.

As for Kyle I'm using #15 since that's apparently what he's going to wear next year.

Are you talking about his instagram? That throwback jersey is just a reference to the fact they're the throwbacks for 2015.

[MaxRider]

LeBron filed for # change like a year prior to going to Miami (which just happen to have #23 retired)

Obviously same with Kobe.

Melo number change was because he had to.

but Kobe #8 is not retired yet
he just change it to his high school #24

so when you go recruit Chris Bosh are you going to use #1 or #4?
same for Kyle Lowry are you going to use #7 or #1? (he wear #1 in college and in Memphis)

Those were willing # changes they did for no reason.

Melo's wasn't.

As for Kyle I'm using #15 since that's apparently what he's going to wear next year.

Lowry changed to #7 in Houston because McGrady is wearing #1
he actually wear #3 first in Toronto (Barganani has #7) then change it back to #7 after Bargnani is traded