Melo #14- Can Melo Come Out and Play?

[RedBulls23]

If we amnesty Boozer and get rid of everyone else except for Rose/Noah/Taj/Jimmy/McDermott, we have 15.94M in cap space. So if we made a pure cap space offer, it's not surprising he wouldn't like it. If we can find a taker for Boozer in trade though, the salary can go all the way up to Melo's max or at least close to it. If we cannot find a taker for Boozer, then we will probably have to trade Taj to clear the space if we really want Melo.

After being in that meeting and also Melo saying he wants Taj part of the team, there is zero chance Bulls trade him. And if they did, we can say goodbye to Melo.[/quote

Waaaarghhhh, I hope this isn't another Kobe situation.

It's not.

[davhern]

> Houston photoshopped Melo into Jeremy Lin's jersey and Lin got upset and took it to twitter
> Dallas was only 2 hours meeting
> Houston was 6 hours meeting
> Bulls Reporters optimistic (even Friedell)
> Bulls said they will amnesty Boozer to sign Melo
> IncarceratedBob said Melo is going to chicago lol

Thanks mate. Is the consensus amongst the media that it's Chicago or NY still? Or have Houston passed us?

NY reporters saying NY
Houston saying Houston
Chicago saying Chicago

I don't think that's really the case. Just about everyone (with a few exceptions) still has the Knicks as the favorite because of money. That's just what they think though. Don't think we've heard anything really sourced about his leanings.

Locally, we're hearing that the Bulls feel good about their pitch and that Melo was impressed, but that still doesn't mean they think he's more likely to come here than go to NY. Just means we have a good shot.

Most do still think it's Chicago or NY, though.

[Rerisen]

Still, a source with knowledge of the situation told Sporting News that Anthony has not, in fact, made any decisions. “He still has got an open mind,” the source said. “The Knicks have always been on the list, that is where his home is, that hasn’t changed. But there have not been any decisions made.” -Sporting News

[RKL]

Excerpt from Lala's book —

"I also knew that if I ever bought a house, it would probably be in L.A.,’’ she wrote. “It’s so different from New York and Atlanta. L.A. is like my chill place. I can be laid-back and relaxed there. I also could see myself eventually settling there, like my retirement spot.’’

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[DRoseCantStop]

Excerpt from Lala's book —

"I also knew that if I ever bought a house, it would probably be in L.A.,’’ she wrote. “It’s so different from New York and Atlanta. L.A. is like my chill place. I can be laid-back and relaxed there. I also could see myself eventually settling there, like my retirement spot.’’

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[pylb]

Taj must have really impressed his peers on the court and with the Select team, if those reports of Melo wanting to play with him are true. There were reports that Lebron wanted him to come to Miami around the time he signed his extension too.

[TheCly]

Excerpt from Lala's book —

"I also knew that if I ever bought a house, it would probably be in L.A.,’’ she wrote. “It’s so different from New York and Atlanta. L.A. is like my chill place. I can be laid-back and relaxed there. I also could see myself eventually settling there, like my retirement spot.’’

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I live in LA. Yuck!!! I don't see what anyone sees in this place. I suppose if you have 50 million and live in the Hills and never have to shop, never have to go anywhere w/o a limo.. But, what a shallow and boring life that would be.

[BullRosed]

Thanks mate. Is the consensus amongst the media that it's Chicago or NY still? Or have Houston passed us?

NY reporters saying NY
Houston saying Houston
Chicago saying Chicago

I don't think that's really the case. Just about everyone (with a few exceptions) still has the Knicks as the favorite because of money. That's just what they think though. Don't think we've heard anything really sourced about his leanings.

Locally, we're hearing that the Bulls feel good about their pitch and that Melo was impressed, but that still doesn't mean they think he's more likely to come here than go to NY. Just means we have a good shot.

Most do still think it's Chicago or NY, though.

They said the same about Lebron in 2010 everyone said "at the end I think he stays" for more money and his town blah blah . He has money, he is 30 years old and never went to a finals. For the first time on his career he has not made the playoffs no superstar wants to waste there basketball prime to see what phill might do.

And for the people say that durant will go to ny Ina few years does Carmelo want to wait a few years he will be 32 years old and in sports anything can happend when you have the oppurtunity to win you take it and if he is bout winning he will be a Chicago bull.


Call me crazy I think there is more of a brand for Carmelo then New York why so you ask ? New York has 2 teams in every pro sport they have nets/knicks jets/giants Yankees/mets islanders/rangers Chicago will be his and Derrick roses town he don't have to share with the nets and the Yankees are the toast of the town. Carmelo can build his brand here and a lot of Chicagoans will endorse and buy melo product more so then New York

[Mk0]

Excerpt from Lala's book —

"I also knew that if I ever bought a house, it would probably be in L.A.,’’ she wrote. “It’s so different from New York and Atlanta. L.A. is like my chill place. I can be laid-back and relaxed there. I also could see myself eventually settling there, like my retirement spot.’’

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I live in LA. Yuck!!! I don't see what anyone sees in this place. I suppose if you have 50 million and live in the Hills and never have to shop, never have to go anywhere w/o a limo.. But, what a shallow and boring life that would be.

I'm in KTown and while it is dirty and loud it is a fun area. Centrally located as well. Been here about 3 and a half years. LA grew on me, it isn't so bad.

[erlim]

Yeah I live in LA. I have for six years. I love it. It must be a completely different experience being in the MeloLala financial bracket though. I guess Chicago would be too.

[OldSchoolNoBull]

If we amnesty Boozer and get rid of everyone else except for Rose/Noah/Taj/Jimmy/McDermott, we have 15.94M in cap space. So if we made a pure cap space offer, it's not surprising he wouldn't like it. If we can find a taker for Boozer in trade though, the salary can go all the way up to Melo's max or at least close to it. If we cannot find a taker for Boozer, then we will probably have to trade Taj to clear the space if we really want Melo.

What about the Deeks scenario?

I don't really think it makes much of a difference. His scenario is basically creating 14-15M in cap space and then trading away 7M more in salary in exchange for Melo. In order to create 14-15M in cap space, you have to pare the roster down to basically what I outlined above, and then the only way to send 7M out is to trade Taj(assuming Rose and Noah aren't going anywhere).

It should be noted though, that if the Bulls are willing to dump Jimmy, the cap number goes up to 17.44M.

[stillalive]

The Boozer stuff really does kind of suggest something is up. Remember they told him he would not be let go unless we brought in a superstar.

And you don't tell a guy's camp that he's gone if you have any interest whatsoever in bringing him back, even as a worst case. It would be a poisonous locker room to bring him back to after that next year.

exactly what I was thinking.

scenario: Bulls decide to amnesty Booz, get Pau to take a cheap 2 year deal tomorrow, tell Melo Pau is signing, Melo says cool and decides to sign here, dump Dunleavy & NG, Melo tells Phil sorry no dice, Knicks get nothing in return, Bulls win

[BullRosed]

The Boozer stuff really does kind of suggest something is up. Remember they told him he would not be let go unless we brought in a superstar.

And you don't tell a guy's camp that he's gone if you have any interest whatsoever in bringing him back, even as a worst case. It would be a poisonous locker room to bring him back to after that next year.

exactly what I was thinking.

scenario: Bulls decide to amnesty Booz, get Pau to take a cheap 2 year deal tomorrow, tell Melo Pau is signing, Melo says cool and decides to sign here, dump Dunleavy & NG, Melo tells Phil sorry no dice, Knicks get nothing in return, Bulls win

I just creamed my pants by the thought of that. How sweet that would be how sweet.

[davhern]

They said the same about Lebron in 2010 everyone said "at the end I think he stays" for more money and his town blah blah . He has money, he is 30 years old and never went to a finals. For the first time on his career he has not made the playoffs no superstar wants to waste there basketball prime to see what phill might do.

And for the people say that durant will go to ny Ina few years does Carmelo want to wait a few years he will be 32 years old and in sports anything can happend when you have the oppurtunity to win you take it and if he is bout winning he will be a Chicago bull.


Call me crazy I think there is more of a brand for Carmelo then New York why so you ask ? New York has 2 teams in every pro sport they have nets/knicks jets/giants Yankees/mets islanders/rangers Chicago will be his and Derrick roses town he don't have to share with the nets and the Yankees are the toast of the town. Carmelo can build his brand here and a lot of Chicagoans will endorse and buy melo product more so then New York

Personally, I don't really disagree with you. I may be biased, but I think he has a lot of really good reasons to leave. I also have some solid optimism that he feels that way, too. We've consistently heard that his top priority is winning and that he has been saying that. It'd be really hard for him to go back to that mess, if that's TRULY the case. I think many/most of those people just don't think that he genuinely IS about winning, at least to the extent that he'll pass up the extra money and his home city. I don't necessarily feel that way. I think it's a toss up right now. Not really sure which way to lean, myself.

Just was disputing where he said that the Chicago guys are saying Chicago (and Houston guys saying Houston).

[BullRosed]

They said the same about Lebron in 2010 everyone said "at the end I think he stays" for more money and his town blah blah . He has money, he is 30 years old and never went to a finals. For the first time on his career he has not made the playoffs no superstar wants to waste there basketball prime to see what phill might do.

And for the people say that durant will go to ny Ina few years does Carmelo want to wait a few years he will be 32 years old and in sports anything can happend when you have the oppurtunity to win you take it and if he is bout winning he will be a Chicago bull.


Call me crazy I think there is more of a brand for Carmelo then New York why so you ask ? New York has 2 teams in every pro sport they have nets/knicks jets/giants Yankees/mets islanders/rangers Chicago will be his and Derrick roses town he don't have to share with the nets and the Yankees are the toast of the town. Carmelo can build his brand here and a lot of Chicagoans will endorse and buy melo product more so then New York

Personally, I don't really disagree with you. I may be biased, but I think he has a lot of really good reasons to leave. I also have some solid optimism that he feels that way, too. We've consistently heard that his top priority is winning and that he has been saying that. It'd be really hard for him to go back to that mess, if that's TRULY the case. I think many/most of those people just don't think that he genuinely IS about winning, at least to the extent that he'll pass up the extra money and his home city. I don't necessarily feel that way. I think it's a toss up right now. Not really sure which way to lean, myself.

Just was disputing where he said that the Chicago guys are saying Chicago (and Houston guys saying Houston).

I am not disagreeing with you I agree that of course as a fan base the knicks think he'll be back us as bulls fans will think he's a idiot if he doesn't come to the bulls and rockets fans think he's crazy if they don't sign with them. I was just giving my input is all. I live in New Jersey and visit the city a lot and regardless what you hear football and baseball are #1 in New York the knicks there lovable losers but just not as popular that's a big reason I feel he would come to us cause he can make that money he lost off marketing his brand in Chicago New York has too much going on a rod, Derrick jeter ,Eli manning .the nets team .too much spotlight to share and of course they love manning and the Yankees because of the championships so hopefully that's pans out I'm our favor .

[mattbulls]

There should be a Melo recap thread. Just for important updates!!

[veji1]

If I am Melo, to be honest, I go to the Mavs... In the end there are 2 main reasons for it, one is named Nowitsky, the other Derrick Rose.
- Dirk is on par with Duncan as a player, a monster, someone who's game isn't predicated on physical skill, whose shooting will always be there, who embodies a team : he will take 10millions à la Duncan to make his team win, a leader who is followed by all in his team AND the ideal stretch 4 in the modern NBA. To get that title window for the next 2/3 seasons, I would go there.
- Rose was a physical phenom coming out of 2 lost seasons, with a mysterious quasi autistic way of functioning with his team, FO, and the public. He is an unknown quantity at this stage...

It pains me to say so, I hope he comes to Chicago, but to me Dirk and Carlisle offer much more guarantee of competing in the next couple of years.

[WinCity]

They said the same about Lebron in 2010 everyone said "at the end I think he stays" for more money and his town blah blah . He has money, he is 30 years old and never went to a finals. For the first time on his career he has not made the playoffs no superstar wants to waste there basketball prime to see what phill might do.

Damn good point my friend! I was just thinking the same thing myself. The go to response for every reporter now is "NY is likely the favorite" which is code for "I dont really know for sure, so let me just go with a safe answer".

I do think he really wants to leave. He just needs to be offered a respectable annual salary and the right winning situation.

As other have noted we can easily offer him about 15.5 mil, and if we are willing to sacrifice Butler it jumps to 17 mil. Thats the best we can do without a sign and trade and without dealing Taj whom he apparently wants to play with.


I like our chances

[Nikos Beard]

If I am Melo, to be honest, I go to the Mavs... In the end there are 2 main reasons for it, one is named Nowitsky, the other Derrick Rose.
- Dirk is on par with Duncan as a player, a monster, someone who's game isn't predicated on physical skill, whose shooting will always be there, who embodies a team : he will take 10millions à la Duncan to make his team win, a leader who is followed by all in his team AND the ideal stretch 4 in the modern NBA. To get that title window for the next 2/3 seasons, I would go there.
- Rose was a physical phenom coming out of 2 lost seasons, with a mysterious quasi autistic way of functioning with his team, FO, and the public. He is an unknown quantity at this stage...

It pains me to say so, I hope he comes to Chicago, but to me Dirk and Carlisle offer much more guarantee of competing in the next couple of years.

Dirk is 36 though. For all we know, his game could fall off a cliff next season as KG's did this year. Leadership and intangibles can only take you so far, when the decline hits you it hits you hard. We can't base our perception of Dirk's longevity on what Duncan is doing. Duncan is a top 5 player all time with a different playing style and with a different role on his team. I love Dirk, but him being dependable for the entirety of Melo's contract is hardly a certainty. In all likelihood Dirk is going to have 2 good years left before he steps completely into role player territory.

Rose, Noah, and Taj (and obviously Thibs) are a much more sure situation long-term, even with Rose's lack of play.

[pylb]

I do think he really wants to leave. He just needs to be offered a respectable annual salary and the right winning situation.

I think he wants to stay in the city of NY and also play for a contending team with good chemistry. Unfortunately he can't get both so he has to weigh his options.