Barbeque Chicken: The Cody Zeller Thread - Pt 2

[JDR720]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/CodyZeller/status/470289816664281089[/tweet]

I bet that is Kemba, Zeller has revealed his true height

[BeesWax]

My man was working out with MKG today at TWCA.

Putting in that work.

Good they both need to learn to shoot.

[JDR720]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU6ovkpsVW0[/youtube]

Cody Zeller Talks About His First Year in the NBA



Also need to add this thread to the index as well as MKG pt. 2

[fatlever]

thanks JDR, i updated both those thread to the index.

[LamarMatic7]

Lamar is back!!

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDXPCO3Cqk0[/youtube]

[MasterIchiro]

Great video. Multiple clips show Zeller's potential as more than an 'energy big' off the bench. He's dangerous in the paint with spin moves and post-ups and his ability to finish with either hand. He just needs to become consistent with his jumper. On the defensive end he showed he's no pushover. We should let McRoberts walk.

[KingExecutive]

Incredible work Lamar! Love the clip to start the video too

[BeesWax]

Great video. Multiple clips show Zeller's potential as more than an 'energy big' off the bench. He's dangerous in the paint with spin moves and post-ups and his ability to finish with either hand. He just needs to become consistent with his jumper. On the defensive end he showed he's no pushover. We should let McRoberts walk.

Energy big at best. Nothing in those clips shows anything more. If we let McRoberts go and start this guy we might as well start scouting the top players in next years draft, unless we add two top notch FA signings to the team. He would immediately become the worst starter on the team and I am including Henderson. Just because every positive thing he did fits in this five minute clip does not mean he is more than what everyone saw last year which is a hustle big.

[BeesWax]

Lamar is back!!

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDXPCO3Cqk0[/youtube]

Very good video.

[ARHornet]

Great video. Multiple clips show Zeller's potential as more than an 'energy big' off the bench. He's dangerous in the paint with spin moves and post-ups and his ability to finish with either hand. He just needs to become consistent with his jumper. On the defensive end he showed he's no pushover. We should let McRoberts walk.

Energy big at best. Nothing in those clips shows anything more. If we let McRoberts go and start this guy we might as well start scouting the top players in next years draft, unless we add two top notch FA signings to the team. He would immediately become the worst starter on the team and I am including Henderson. Just because every positive thing he did fits in this five minute clip does not mean he is more than what everyone saw last year which is a hustle big.

I'm not going to go as far as saying that we should plan on being in the lottery next year, but I agree on Zeller. He's a energy big, best suited to play 10-20 minutes off the bench and if he is ever much more than that I'd be surprised. That doesn't mean he can't be a good player, because every team needs guys like that. But if Zeller is starting next year then I think we have legitimate concerns.

[BeesWax]

Great video. Multiple clips show Zeller's potential as more than an 'energy big' off the bench. He's dangerous in the paint with spin moves and post-ups and his ability to finish with either hand. He just needs to become consistent with his jumper. On the defensive end he showed he's no pushover. We should let McRoberts walk.

Energy big at best. Nothing in those clips shows anything more. If we let McRoberts go and start this guy we might as well start scouting the top players in next years draft, unless we add two top notch FA signings to the team. He would immediately become the worst starter on the team and I am including Henderson. Just because every positive thing he did fits in this five minute clip does not mean he is more than what everyone saw last year which is a hustle big.

I'm not going to go as far as saying that we should plan on being in the lottery next year, but I agree on Zeller. He's a energy big, best suited to play 10-20 minutes off the bench and if he is ever much more than that I'd be surprised. That doesn't mean he can't be a good player, because every team needs guys like that. But if Zeller is starting next year then I think we have legitimate concerns.

Energy bigs are huge for good teams. He could be a nice hustle guy giving the starter rest and wearing down the other team. The only issue I see is that when he and Biz are in we need to run more. I am not looking to trade him for cheap or anything like that I just think to maximize his value he needs to be coming off the bench with a running unit. Hopefully he could be a long term solid value big for us backing up McRoberts now and Vonleh in a couple years.

[MasterIchiro]

Great video. Multiple clips show Zeller's potential as more than an 'energy big' off the bench. He's dangerous in the paint with spin moves and post-ups and his ability to finish with either hand. He just needs to become consistent with his jumper. On the defensive end he showed he's no pushover. We should let McRoberts walk.

Energy big at best. Nothing in those clips shows anything more. If we let McRoberts go and start this guy we might as well start scouting the top players in next years draft, unless we add two top notch FA signings to the team. He would immediately become the worst starter on the team and I am including Henderson. Just because every positive thing he did fits in this five minute clip does not mean he is more than what everyone saw last year which is a hustle big.

I've got news for you. You are not everyone. Are you clear about that?

[BeesWax]

Great video. Multiple clips show Zeller's potential as more than an 'energy big' off the bench. He's dangerous in the paint with spin moves and post-ups and his ability to finish with either hand. He just needs to become consistent with his jumper. On the defensive end he showed he's no pushover. We should let McRoberts walk.

Energy big at best. Nothing in those clips shows anything more. If we let McRoberts go and start this guy we might as well start scouting the top players in next years draft, unless we add two top notch FA signings to the team. He would immediately become the worst starter on the team and I am including Henderson. Just because every positive thing he did fits in this five minute clip does not mean he is more than what everyone saw last year which is a hustle big.

I've got news for you. You are not everyone. Are you clear about that?

No but that makes the bolder words no less true. That clip does not change what everyone saw last year. Sorry if I offended you again. I did not say dumb or anything this time so I did not think you would be so sensitive again.

[MasterIchiro]

Energy big at best. Nothing in those clips shows anything more. If we let McRoberts go and start this guy we might as well start scouting the top players in next years draft, unless we add two top notch FA signings to the team. He would immediately become the worst starter on the team and I am including Henderson. Just because every positive thing he did fits in this five minute clip does not mean he is more than what everyone saw last year which is a hustle big.

I've got news for you. You are not everyone. Are you clear about that?

No but that makes the bolder words no less true. That clip does not change what everyone saw last year. Sorry if I offended you again. I did not say dumb or anything this time so I did not think you we be so sensitive again.

I'm not being sensitive. I'm merely pointing out that you only know what you saw, not what everyone saw. Despite your attempt in your phrasing, you do not speak for everyone. I'll let everyone watch that clip and each and every individual can decide if he/she agrees or disagrees with your eyes or mine. I think that's a fair compromise.

[BeesWax]

I've got news for you. You are not everyone. Are you clear about that?

No but that makes the bolder words no less true. That clip does not change what everyone saw last year. Sorry if I offended you again. I did not say dumb or anything this time so I did not think you we be so sensitive again.

I'm not being sensitive. I'm merely pointing out that you only know what you saw, not what everyone saw. Despite your attempt in your phrasing, you do not speak for everyone. I'll let everyone watch that clip and each and every individual can decide if he/she agrees or disagrees with your eyes or mine. I think that's a fair compromise.

I am speaking for pretty much everyone but you when I say a five minute clip of nothing but the good things means nothing in the grad scheme of things. He was and is a hustle big and if you watch him play and not just highlights it is very very very easy to see. The only person I can recall thinking he would be a good starter is you and since I can't say anything against your opinions without you pouting about it I don't really see the point in this debate any more.

He is a good hustle 10-20 guy off the bench and nothing more right now. He has a ways to go if he wants to be more. I don't think he will get there but he may. If we want to win right now we should stop trying to put guys into the starting lineup that were not even that productive as starters while removing productive players from the lineup.

[MasterIchiro]

No but that makes the bolder words no less true. That clip does not change what everyone saw last year. Sorry if I offended you again. I did not say dumb or anything this time so I did not think you we be so sensitive again.

I'm not being sensitive. I'm merely pointing out that you only know what you saw, not what everyone saw. Despite your attempt in your phrasing, you do not speak for everyone. I'll let everyone watch that clip and each and every individual can decide if he/she agrees or disagrees with your eyes or mine. I think that's a fair compromise.

I am speaking for pretty much everyone but you...

Ok, just as long as everyone here knows that you speak for everyone (or that you think you do).

[Liver_Pooty]

Nice work once again Lamar!

[BeesWax]

I'm not being sensitive. I'm merely pointing out that you only know what you saw, not what everyone saw. Despite your attempt in your phrasing, you do not speak for everyone. I'll let everyone watch that clip and each and every individual can decide if he/she agrees or disagrees with your eyes or mine. I think that's a fair compromise.

I am speaking for pretty much everyone but you...

Ok, just as long as everyone here knows that you speak for everyone (or that you think you do).

I tell you what let see how many people think you can base every opinion you have on a clip of highlights. Lets decide all our starts based on five minute highlight clips from now on and see how we do. I am very curious how many think like you that a highlight clip decides how good players are completely.

I do like how you adjusted the quote to fit your needs though. Maybe I should cry to the mods and try to get you to fix your partial quote. Nah I am not that much of a baby about things.

[MasterIchiro]

I am speaking for pretty much everyone but you...

Ok, just as long as everyone here knows that you speak for everyone (or that you think you do).

I tell you what let see how many people think you can base every opinion you have on a clip of highlights. Lets decide all our starts based on five minute highlight clips from now on and see how we do. I am very curious how many think like you that a highlight clip decides how good players are completely.

I do like how you adjusted the quote to fit your needs though. Maybe I should cry to the mods and try to get you to fix your partial quote. Nah I am not that much of a baby about things.

Oh so now you're interested in surveying people before drawing conclusions about what everyone sees and thinks? Progress, I guess.

[BeesWax]

Ok, just as long as everyone here knows that you speak for everyone (or that you think you do).

I tell you what let see how many people think you can base every opinion you have on a clip of highlights. Lets decide all our starts based on five minute highlight clips from now on and see how we do. I am very curious how many think like you that a highlight clip decides how good players are completely.

I do like how you adjusted the quote to fit your needs though. Maybe I should cry to the mods and try to get you to fix your partial quote. Nah I am not that much of a baby about things.

Oh so now you're interested in surveying people before drawing conclusions about what everyone sees and thinks? Progress, I guess.

We have had this discussion before so I felt good about what I said. We all talked about the highlights and how they are fun to watch but don't really provide much out of context like this. I believe you even agreed then. But then again you seem to just say random stuff you say over and over again without any backing to it. It is a shame we can't call the ideas what they are or we get in trouble because you cry about it. Removing the boards freedoms to call a spade a spade must have seemed like a huge accomplishment to you.