HeatDaChamps wrote:mopper8 wrote:HeatDaChamps wrote:
well if the MLE is all we have to offer, then we're getting nobody. But i seriously doubt thats the case. The big 3 opted out just to take up all the cap AGAIN? we gotta have a little more than the mle, right? maybe 6-7 mil of space? WHo knows, the 3 arent even signed yet.
With the cap expected to rise significantly again next season, Miami's restructuring could give them 2 or even 3 straight years with the full MLE (depending on how big the new TV deal is) instead of mini MLEs. That's not nothing.
If we have the full MLE, we will get someone this offeseason, just probably not on the caliber we were hoping. I'd say Gasol is the best shot at taking a discount since so many of his other suitors are also capped out (OKC, SA) or not contenders (LAL, NYK). Chicago seems to be the only team that's both good and definitely able to create room to give him something significant over the MLE, by amnestying Boozer. Not sure if they're willing to do that for Gasol though.
Pretty sure LA can't make room to sign Melo or absorb his salary in a trade without renouncing Gasol, btw, so I don't know that a Melo+Gasol thing works out there. Haven't examined it closely though
i didnt say the MLE was nothing. But i expected to have like 5 mil of cap space AND the MLE, i mean, how much money are these guys taking, its going to take up the whole cap? ridiculous
You can't have cap space and the MLE, so that was never in the cards in any event.
Problem is cap holds -- half a million for each unfilled slot in the incomplete roster under 12, plus the cost of retaining player rights. Let's just say, for the sake of argument, that the Big 3 resign. Let's say we keep Cole, and keep the rights to Napier & Birdman and renounce everyone else (freeing up as much capspace as possible). Cole, Napier, & Birdman cost ~$4M of capspace in this scenario. With the Big 3, that's only 6 players, so there's an additional $3M in capholds for the incomplete roster, give or take. So that's $7M in cap taken up in addition to the Big 3.
So, 63M cap - 7M in cap holds = 56M for the Big 3 + free agents. Now give Lebron the max, which is totally fair. That's another 20.6M. Now we're down to ~$35.5M left for Wade, Bosh, and signing non-vet min free agents.
Now you also have the "room" exception in this case (for teams with cap room), which is small, but call it ~2M.
Which means, in this scenario, if you want ~10M in cap space in addition to the room exception (total = 12M), Wade and Bosh need to be splitting ~$25M between the two of them. So say Bosh starting at 14M and Wade starting at 11M, or they could divvy it up evenly. It would be amazing if they wanted to take that little but it's not crazy that they don't.
And even in that scenario, although we have ~12M in room to work with, the most we could throw at any one guy, if we wanted to blow all the space on one guy (which I am fine with personally) is only ~10M.
More realistically Wade & Bosh are going to want more than that, which means in order to free up that amount of space you need to either move Cole or Lebron needs to take a discount or both.
