Melo 15: The End Is Nigh

Sonny_D1 · Post #1581 » by **Sonny_D1** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 5:48 am

kyrv wrote:
Sonny_D1 wrote:
kyrv wrote:
Do *you* think that was the master plan?

After all these years, I wouldn't be shocked if it were true.

Didn't answer the question.

Not necessarily.

kyrv · Post #1582 » by **kyrv** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 5:48 am

Rerisen wrote:Melo said both Chicago and Houston had 'tremendous' offers.

All we need is him to like ours more. Go to NY, say S&T me to Chicago. Threaten to go to Houston if NY doesn't comply, which he may well like better than NY as well.

You are interrupting the whinefest. But I agree.

SteelerSpartan · Post #1583 » by **SteelerSpartan** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 5:49 am

Man what a depressing way to start the 4th of July.....

Hopefully Our Bill Pulman speech is coming...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoLywiaM6PA[/youtube]

Magilla_Gorilla · Post #1584 » by **Magilla_Gorilla** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 5:49 am

WinCity wrote:
KingCuban wrote:We're in basketball hell. How will we ever win more than 55 games next season? **** ain't fair, man.

uh oh you going dark bro?

Pretty sure he was just demonstrating how ridiculous the whining is.

Jimmy Forums · Post #1585 » by **Jimmy Forums** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 5:49 am

I don't think we should all be giving up yet. This could still go any way. We've known the money wouldn't be our sell. Every day when he went and visited someone else, reports went that way; and that includes Monday when we had such a fun time.

Just relax. I still think we have a good chance. New York still isn't going to get him wins, and that's the reality. Melo's mantra all along has been that it's not about making the most money and that he wants to win now. Just wait. We got this.

WinCity · Post #1586 » by **WinCity** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 5:50 am

Rerisen wrote:Melo said both Chicago and Houston had 'tremendous' offers.

All we need is him to like ours more. Go to NY, say S&T me to Chicago. Threaten to go to Houston if NY doesn't comply, which he may well like better than NY as well.

I am conflicted. All the tea leaves polint to Melo having decided fairly quickly to go back to NY. But damn 9 hrs is a long ass time to talk, and then just turn around and decide to stay in NY just like that.

jc23 · Post #1587 » by **jc23** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 5:50 am

Knick fans will rue the day they passed up on trading for the white Larry Bird....rue i tell you!!!!

Spoiler:

IndianPlaya17 · Post #1588 » by **IndianPlaya17** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 5:51 am

Jimmy Forums wrote:I don't think we should all be giving up yet. This could still go any way. We've known the money wouldn't be our sell. Every day when he went and visited someone else, reports went that way; and that includes Monday when we had such a fun time.

Just relax. I still think we have a good chance. New York still isn't going to get him wins, and that's the reality. Melo's mantra all along has been that it's not about making the most money and that he wants to win now. Just wait. We got this.

I agree with you. The only concerning thing is all the reports of the Bulls not offering him anything yet.

Post #1589 » by **pduh01** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 5:51 am

Rerisen wrote:Melo said both Chicago and Houston had 'tremendous' offers.

All we need is him to like ours more. Go to NY, say S&T me to Chicago. Threaten to go to Houston if NY doesn't comply, which he may well like better than NY as well.

Do I ever I tell u I always like u?!?

JohnnyKILLroy · Post #1590 » by **JohnnyKILLroy** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 5:51 am

This Chicken Little defeatist attitude is getting old. Boo hoo hoo we don't get the big fish. Yeah I would love for things to go our way but **** it life goes on let's reload and battle.

Theres a certain standard you should live up to if you root for a team from the city of broad shoulders.

MalagaBulls · Post #1591 » by **MalagaBulls** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 5:51 am

Magilla_Gorilla wrote:
MalagaBulls wrote:
Sonny_D1 wrote:Maybe the master plan was to pretend like we were all in on Melo knowing full well he wasn't going to accept $16m or so (keeping Taj), and then pocket the savings we we were told would be reinvested in the team after the Deng trade. Afterall, someone's gotta pay for the new facility.

I've been lurking through most of this roller coaster with everyone but really haven't posted to save myself the disappointment should he eventually leave us at the alter. But I have been kicking this whole money thing around and I keep coming back to the same thing. It is what I started harping about last year. The Bulls were 2nd in total profit this year and have been a top 3-5 profit team the past 7-8 years. What does this mean? If JR really wanted to bite the bullet and not only amnesty Boozer but he could tell Garpax to spend whatever it takes to get Melo his max. I mean they just made 61 million profit for 2013. You can't tell me adding Melo would not equal or better that?
Maybe not but they will never turn a loss. My point being is that they have enough money to pay the tax for this year and then get out from under it with the new CAP projections likely to sky-rocket. CAP gurus am I wrong about this?

Yes - you're wrong. The Bulls can't just 'spend more' to pay Melo his max. And they can't just decide to 'pay the tax' for Melo. You seem to have no understanding of how the cap, exceptions, free agency, and the tax work.

OK gotcha my bad. I have read a bit if the CBAFAQ and it is confusing. It is just a matter of understanding of how teams get over the CAP, that's all. Back to CAP 101 for me. Appreciate the answer though.

kyrv · Post #1592 » by **kyrv** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 5:52 am

Magilla_Gorilla wrote:
WinCity wrote:
KingCuban wrote:We're in basketball hell. How will we ever win more than 55 games next season? **** ain't fair, man.

uh oh you going dark bro?

Pretty sure he was just demonstrating how ridiculous the whining is.

No NBA team has ever won a title without Melo.

Or do I have that backwards.

danzou · Post #1593 » by **danzou** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 5:52 am

dice wrote:
danzou wrote:
Magilla_Gorilla wrote:
Oh please. A healthy Bulls team was winning 60 games and on its way to back-to-back ECF. That's hardly basketball hell.

Yup, and we had the best backup center in the league, the best 3 point shooter in the league, Deng, a younger Boozer, and a healthy and good Derrick Rose. None of those pieces are here today.

technically, we do have those pieces today

fixed.

Post #1594 » by **Payt10** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 5:52 am

I aint even mad. We still have Doug McBuckets!

Jimmy Forums · Post #1595 » by **Jimmy Forums** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 5:52 am

IndianPlaya17 wrote:
Jimmy Forums wrote:I don't think we should all be giving up yet. This could still go any way. We've known the money wouldn't be our sell. Every day when he went and visited someone else, reports went that way; and that includes Monday when we had such a fun time.

Just relax. I still think we have a good chance. New York still isn't going to get him wins, and that's the reality. Melo's mantra all along has been that it's not about making the most money and that he wants to win now. Just wait. We got this.

I agree with you. The only concerning this is the reports of the Bulls not offering him anything.

We're quiet. We're a few trades away from being able to "offer" him anything. We haven't heard it because it can't happen yet anyway and we're not going to show our hand until Melo tells us to start moving pieces. I'm not concerned we haven't heard what our plan is yet.

IndianPlaya17 · Post #1596 » by **IndianPlaya17** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 5:54 am

Jimmy Forums wrote:
IndianPlaya17 wrote:
Jimmy Forums wrote:I don't think we should all be giving up yet. This could still go any way. We've known the money wouldn't be our sell. Every day when he went and visited someone else, reports went that way; and that includes Monday when we had such a fun time.

Just relax. I still think we have a good chance. New York still isn't going to get him wins, and that's the reality. Melo's mantra all along has been that it's not about making the most money and that he wants to win now. Just wait. We got this.

I agree with you. The only concerning this is the reports of the Bulls not offering him anything.

We're quiet. We're a few trades away from being able to "offer" him anything. We haven't heard it because it can't happen yet anyway and we're not going to show our hand until Melo tells us to start moving pieces. I'm not concerned we haven't heard what our plan is yet.

What about Noah saying he believes Melo will go back to NY?

Post #1597 » by **Rerisen** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 5:55 am

kyrv wrote:You are interrupting the whinefest. But I agree.

Hang in there a few more pages, a Windhorst and co tweet should be taking us back up ramp soon.

Post #1598 » by **kingkirk** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 5:56 am

WinCity wrote:uh oh you going dark bro?

fleet is my inspiration. We were never interested in Melo. We only wanted to create a fascade to fool fans whilst instead pocketing money.

Yes, i am aware that gaining Anthony would mean we'd be a title contender, meaning more playoff revenue, more merchanisde sales, price increases at the venue instead of the alternative run of the mill finances we'd be running into, but alas, we only did this all for show.

Post #1599 » by **Rerisen** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 5:57 am

IndianPlaya17 wrote:What about Noah saying he believes Melo will go back to NY?

'some guy at the airport' probably not worth investing in fully emotionally....

WinCity · Post #1600 » by **WinCity** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 5:57 am

KingCuban wrote:
WinCity wrote:uh oh you going dark bro?

fleet is my inspiration. We were never interested in Melo. We only wanted to create a fascade to fool fans whilst instead pocketing money.

Yes, i am aware that gaining Anthony would mean we'd be a title contender, meaning more playoff revenue, more merchanisde sales, price increases at the venue instead of the alternative run of the mill finances we'd be running into, but alas, we only did this all for show.

How confident fans are that we will sign Melo?