Cavs/Clippers Working on Hawes S&T

King Stannis · Post #1 » by **King Stannis** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 12:53 am

Clippers looking for a S&T for Hawes to preserve MLE to facilitate Paul Pierce move:

https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/ ... 1908852736

What is a reasonable offer?

KI-DW-TT-AB · Post #2 » by **KI-DW-TT-AB** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 1:14 am

Nothing until LeBron signs.

Then it'll be J Crawford I feel.

how about Hawes, TT, Waiters for DJ if LeBron signs?

Dupp · Post #3 » by **Dupp** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 1:14 am

They don't have anything I want that's reasonable.

ThirdEyeSharp · Post #4 » by **ThirdEyeSharp** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 1:40 am

Is Varejao's contract waiveable for the Clippers?

Hawes + Varejao, + oicks for DeAndre would be cool, very unlikely but cool.

ThirdEyeSharp · Post #5 » by **ThirdEyeSharp** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 1:40 am

Is Varejao's contract waiveable for the Clippers?

Hawes + Varejao, + oicks for DeAndre would be cool, very unlikely but cool.

KI-DW-TT-AB · Post #6 » by **KI-DW-TT-AB** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 1:42 am

ThirdEyeSharp wrote:Is Varejao's contract waiveable for the Clippers?

Hawes + Varejao, + oicks for DeAndre would be cool, very unlikely but cool.

yeah, don't see why they would though.

DJ is considered one of best centers in the league though, we'd need to give up a lot for him, Waiters & TT definetly, and probably more.

ThirdEyeSharp · Post #7 » by **ThirdEyeSharp** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 1:47 am

The idea was to open up like 10+M in cap space for the Clippers.

I don't think they would, and I probably wouldn't trade them both for DeAndre, he's not that kind of player.

Gordon Bombay · Post #8 » by **Gordon Bombay** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 1:50 am

Don't really have anything that I'd want in the hawes price range or that they'd be willing to give up

Post #9 » by **B Mac** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 2:16 am

This wouldnt make sense for what they have to offer. Plus this would hurt our cap space and limit us from offering the max. Cant see how this happens.

Dupp · Post #10 » by **Dupp** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 2:23 am

Guys we have No chance at getting DJ.

KuruptedCav · Post #11 » by **KuruptedCav** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 2:43 am

Matt Barnes for Hawes. Vet shooter on a reasonable contract to help stabilize youth. Barnes becomes expendable with Pierce in the fold.

mup · Post #12 » by **mup** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 3:11 am

I don't want anyone on their team. Even more, I have no interest in helping them out of their cap situation. We aren't taking crap like Matt Barnes just to take him.

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KI-DW-TT-AB · Post #13 » by **KI-DW-TT-AB** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 3:39 am

KuruptedCav wrote:Matt Barnes for Hawes. Vet shooter on a reasonable contract to help stabilize youth. Barnes becomes expendable with Pierce in the fold.

Barnes is a guy who passed long term deals in recent years so he can play for contenders.

Okada · Post #14 » by **Okada** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 3:59 am

Didn't Hawes sign a 4/23M contract with them hours ago for their mid-level?

No-Man · Post #15 » by **No-Man** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 5:36 am

Dudley+Bullock is reasanoble.

Dudley is a good role player, good shooter, can defend, good locker room guy.

Bullock has upside as a 3&D, just what this team needs from thhe wings.

Obviously next mover after that is trading Waiters and Varejao for a legit Center, I don't know if they will do it, but they seem pretty desperate and with limit options, so I will go after Hibbert.

Irving-Jack-Dellavedova
Wiggins-Karasev-Harris
Dudley-Bullock-Felix
Bennett-Thompson-Powell
Hibbert-Zeller-Haywood

Hopefully the young wings develop into good role players.

heathmalc · Post #16 » by **heathmalc** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 11:13 am

Fischella wrote:Dudley+Bullock is reasanoble.

Dudley is a good role player, good shooter, can defend, good locker room guy.

Bullock has upside as a 3&D, just what this team needs from thhe wings.

Obviously next mover after that is trading Waiters and Varejao for a legit Center, I don't know if they will do it, but they seem pretty desperate and with limit options, so I will go after Hibbert.

Irving-Jack-Dellavedova
Wiggins-Karasev-Harris
Dudley-Bullock-Felix
Bennett-Thompson-Powell
Hibbert-Zeller-Haywood

Hopefully the young wings develop into good role players.

Somebody hit the bottle hard if they think the Cavaliers would make this trade. This would decimate their flexibility, and they'd lose one of their best trade chips (Waiters). If Dion isn't traded in a love deal or to help bring LeBron back to Cleveland, then he isn't moving.

Dudley-Bullock.....lmao!

gflem · Post #17 » by **gflem** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 4:20 pm

I am a bit disappointed in Hawes signing with the Clips, especially for less than 6 mil per. I wonder if the Cavs even wanted him back, for what he signed for I think it is a bit low for a player his size and with his shooting ability.
Maybe he took a bit less from the Clips since they are contenders? I thought I had read he was looking for 8 mil per or more. Brendan Haywood is a bit of a downgrade from Hawes, if he even plays for the Cavs, I seem to remember that Haywood had an issue with the Cavs since they drafted him then traded him.

KI-DW-TT-AB · Post #18 » by **KI-DW-TT-AB** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 5:26 pm

gflem wrote:I am a bit disappointed in Hawes signing with the Clips, especially for less than 6 mil per. I wonder if the Cavs even wanted him back, for what he signed for I think it is a bit low for a player his size and with his shooting ability.
Maybe he took a bit less from the Clips since they are contenders? I thought I had read he was looking for 8 mil per or more. Brendan Haywood is a bit of a downgrade from Hawes, if he even plays for the Cavs, I seem to remember that Haywood had an issue with the Cavs since they drafted him then traded him.

Blazers offered him full mle I think

mcfly1204 · Post #19 » by **mcfly1204** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 5:43 pm

Okada wrote:Didn't Hawes sign a 4/23M contract with them hours ago for their mid-level?

Contracts cannot be signed until July 10th.

BossHoggin · Post #20 » by **BossHoggin** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 6:12 pm

Keep Dudley away, that's a terrible idea.