Melo 16- If it's meant to be, it's meant to be

aguifs · Post #1801 » by **aguifs** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 8:42 pm

I can feel it!!!

WinCity · Post #1802 » by **WinCity** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 8:43 pm

So LA can offer Melo a 4 year 97 mil $ contract. We are offering the same?

NY can offer a five year 129 mil $ deal. When you factor in the tax difference between NY and CHI and the fact that we can sign him for a 5th year later on it isn't as much of a sacrifice as I imagined, but I need to see some exact number.

r1terrell23 · Post #1803 » by **r1terrell23** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 8:43 pm

WinCity wrote:Question:

Whats the total figure if we sign Melo at 22 mil with annual increases AND extend him for a 5th year later on?

I am interested as to how this compares to NY's 5 year max offer. How big is the gap?

I think we may be better off if we give him an opt out. Then we can re sign him to a max and he wouldn't skip a beat really.

TheSuzerain · Post #1804 » by **TheSuzerain** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 8:43 pm

aguifs wrote:I can feel it!!!

I get so confused when I scroll by your posts.

bledredwine · Post #1805 » by **bledredwine** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 8:44 pm

Getting nervous. We need to pull out all of the stops - Jordan brand international sales rose as example, ask Lala if she's ever considered shooting porn etc. EDIT: just saw Ralph's proposal and my sausage juiced a bit. Ugh too many sexual posts need to get laid but point being LETS DO THIS

Chitownbulls · Post #1806 » by **Chitownbulls** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 8:45 pm

aguifs wrote:I can feel it!!!

Haven't been on for a couple hours....what was the trade suggested?

r1terrell23 · Post #1807 » by **r1terrell23** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 8:45 pm

jStuNNa wrote:
Jimmy Forums wrote:Melo's a Bull.

Ralph's news that we gave him options has shifted my weekend such that each second he hasn't announced his return to NY for the mega max is definitely a second closer to him signing with us. Time covers what's happening behind the scenes, and there's nothing more to happen from New York's perspective. They already threw at him all that they have to sell...and he hasn't committed yet. In short, 1) Melo isn't blown away by the Knicks and 2) time is on our side.

Agreed.

The more time that ticks away, the better for the Bulls. If he had his mind made up on NY, it would have been announced or leaked in a substantive way by now .. IMO.

He may still go with NY, but it seems like the Bulls are making this really hard for him. And kudos to them for having a great second option lined up if they have to trade Taj. Because if Melo comes here, and Taj is outgoing, there's no doubt in my mind Gasol will then want to come to Chicago. And what a lineup that would be.

It has been. We just choose to ignore it.

TAPEemALL · Post #1808 » by **TAPEemALL** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 8:46 pm

Way to be a team player D rose lol

Jimmy Forums · Post #1809 » by **Jimmy Forums** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 8:46 pm

r1terrell23 wrote:
jStuNNa wrote:
Jimmy Forums wrote:Melo's a Bull.

Ralph's news that we gave him options has shifted my weekend such that each second he hasn't announced his return to NY for the mega max is definitely a second closer to him signing with us. Time covers what's happening behind the scenes, and there's nothing more to happen from New York's perspective. They already threw at him all that they have to sell...and he hasn't committed yet. In short, 1) Melo isn't blown away by the Knicks and 2) time is on our side.

Agreed.

The more time that ticks away, the better for the Bulls. If he had his mind made up on NY, it would have been announced or leaked in a substantive way by now .. IMO.

He may still go with NY, but it seems like the Bulls are making this really hard for him. And kudos to them for having a great second option lined up if they have to trade Taj. Because if Melo comes here, and Taj is outgoing, there's no doubt in my mind Gasol will then want to come to Chicago. And what a lineup that would be.

It has been. We just choose to ignore it.

No it hasn't. We've heard "he's leaning" and that some "sources expect" him to return. There's been nothing truly substantial, and if you think those reports are absolutely concrete then you haven't been paying attention this week.

sicko · Post #1810 » by **sicko** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 8:47 pm

I think it is Knicks or Lakers, both can offer him the Max while we are kinda looking for a Favor for him to come here and take less which would be "NICE" but highly unlikely but I hope I am wrong

ChiefILL53 · Post #1811 » by **ChiefILL53** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 8:48 pm

HomoSapien wrote:
ChiefILL53 wrote:Quick sidenote, why are the heat meeting Luol Deng in chicago? lol

Probably because he lives in Chicago.

Wait...he lives in chicago? huh, wouldnt have thought that.

Chitownbulls · Post #1812 » by **Chitownbulls** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 8:48 pm

If we can give him Lakers money an land PAU....he better come here.

Jordan Brand will make up for some of that 30mil left on the table.

r1terrell23 · Post #1813 » by **r1terrell23** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 8:49 pm

Jimmy Forums wrote:
r1terrell23 wrote:
jStuNNa wrote:
Agreed.

The more time that ticks away, the better for the Bulls. If he had his mind made up on NY, it would have been announced or leaked in a substantive way by now .. IMO.

He may still go with NY, but it seems like the Bulls are making this really hard for him. And kudos to them for having a great second option lined up if they have to trade Taj. Because if Melo comes here, and Taj is outgoing, there's no doubt in my mind Gasol will then want to come to Chicago. And what a lineup that would be.

It has been. We just choose to ignore it.

No it hasn't. We've heard "he's leaning" and that some "sources expect" him to return. There's been nothing truly substantial, and if you think those reports are absolutely concrete then you haven't been paying attention this week.

I get what you saying but that's all you're gonna get. Lebron and the amigos did it the same way. Those small leaks could mean a lot really. Who knows maybe Melo wants to drag this out more to be in the news.

MisterRoy · Post #1814 » by **MisterRoy** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 8:49 pm

sicko wrote:I think it is Knicks or Lakers, both can offer him the Max while we are kinda looking for a Favor for him to come here and take less which would be "NICE" but highly unlikely but I hope I am wrong

And how long before either team is a contender?

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Hokie · Post #1815 » by **Hokie** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 8:51 pm

I've felt good about our chances at getting Melo all along. No, I'm not an insider or anything... just thinking along the lines of "if he wants to win he'll go to Chicago, if he wants money he'll go back to NY." I still think that is the case. It really is that simple, IMO. I think he'll ultimately choose the place that gives him a best chance to win, and that is Chicago.

Hopefully we find out something soon. I'm optimistic.

Chitownbulls · Post #1816 » by **Chitownbulls** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 8:53 pm

Rose
Butler or Fa
Melo, mcdermott
PAU, mirotic
Noah

That's instant title contender and makes lebrons decision even harder

boozapalooza · Post #1817 » by **boozapalooza** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 8:53 pm

TAPEemALL wrote:Way to be a team player D rose lol

Get out of here troll. What more do you want, Melo saw him work out and they talked for 20 minutes afterwards. Confirmed by multiple reliable reports not created by Chris Broussard.

Mk0 · Post #1818 » by **Mk0** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 8:54 pm

theanimal23 wrote:I'd prefer Taj but the lineup of Gasol-Mirotic-Noah is better than Taj-Mirotic-Noah because Gasol can play both PF/C and can play with either Noah or Mirotic. The lineup of Taj-Mirotic is undersized.

The NBA is undersized right now.
Plus Taj is an extremely mobile big, if he is at C we won't have to worry about him switching on defense.

HoopsterJones · Post #1819 » by **HoopsterJones** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 8:54 pm

Illinois State Income tax rate is at 5.00% (supposed to drop to 3.75% next year) this year, New York is 8.82%

$97 million at 3.75% = $3.6375 Million in tax paid (4 years)
$129 million at 8.82% = $11.3778 Million in tax paid (5 years)

These aren't exact numbers because I believe it depends on where they play their games (41 home games subject to income tax in that state, away games are subject to the state income tax rate in each respective state).

So a guess estimate would be around $2.5-3 million more state income tax over 4 years.

chifan1798 · Post #1820 » by **chifan1798** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 8:54 pm

Ralphb07 wrote:The Bulls have given Melo two options. One with Gibson and one without Gibson and Melo getting the max. Also the Gasol stuff is linked to this. I can't get into specifics but the Bulls could land Melo at 22mil, Gasol at 8mil and still have the MLE for Nikola.

Dangit Ralph.......I was all fine with my negativity about him coming, then you give this scenario, lol.

Ok, how do you pass up that scenario where you can get the max, and be on a title contending team? Melo, Rose, Noah and Gasol??????? Pass that up for the Knicks????? I'd probably look at him as a clown if he stayed in NY now. He could get an early termination offer so that he can get another new huge contract in a couple of years, and thus make up for that extra year.