Bucks looking at Bledsoe, probably.

BigDoggyStyle · Post #161 » by **BigDoggyStyle** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:49 pm

Hopefully the Suns will be enticed to do a S&T, so we won't have to wait out an offer sheet. That would be excruciating.

Post #162 » by **MickeyDavis** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:50 pm

Speaking of the Bucks medical staff that's one of the first things I would have replaced as a new owner.

BigDoggyStyle · Post #163 » by **BigDoggyStyle** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:50 pm

JayMKE wrote:Bledsoe - hell yes

Lin - maybe with additional assets/them taking back Mayo

Vasquez - WTF WHY GOD WHY HE SUCKS

They can't take back Mayo, the whole point is to dump Lin without taking on any salary.

WEFFPIM · Post #164 » by **WEFFPIM** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:50 pm

Serge28 wrote:
WEFFPIM wrote:
Serge28 wrote:
Great post!

Well, you crafted a post worthy of that response.

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Not really. I've provided a TON of backing and reasoning throughout this thread for my opinion. You provided nothing of use. Keep being a clown I guess.

There have been oodles of evidence posted in this thread as to why that number is absurd for Vazquez. I like Vazquez, I've said as much. But for the number you're throwing out there? That's just lunacy.

That sad Jaguars fan agrees.

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Diggr14 · Post #165 » by **Diggr14** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:51 pm

Still, why even trade Knight and Henson for a guy like Bledsoe on a probable max"ish" contract. Knight and Henson are assets... especially if they have decent seasons next year. Bringing in Bledsoe would likely only help us win a few more games, and at very worse scenario push us to 8th seed levels again. We need another high lotto pick to bring into our talent pool. The timing on this is bad. Maybe in 2 years, but not now.

JayMKE · Post #166 » by **JayMKE** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:52 pm

BigDoggyStyle wrote:
JayMKE wrote:Bledsoe - hell yes

Lin - maybe with additional assets/them taking back Mayo

Vasquez - WTF WHY GOD WHY HE SUCKS

They can't take back Mayo, the whole point is to dump Lin without taking on any salary.

then we need something nice coming along with Lin

Serge28 · Post #167 » by **Serge28** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:53 pm

Baddy Chuck wrote:
Serge28 wrote:Your list and conclusion are incongruent. You list a bunch of players that would be making more than the deal I propose, dismiss those that are worse as bad deals, do not list a single guy paid in the range I specified who is a better player and conclude that it's an "awful deal." What?

I don't even know the point you are trying to get across. I pointed our everyone on that list making less than $8 million a year, pretty much average starter money. There's like two comparable players in Jarrett Jack and Andre Miller. One is an awful deal that the Cavs are looking to give up a pick to get rid of and one is being paid less than you suggest on a much better team.

$6-7 million for Vasquez would be an atrocious deal.

Andre Miller is 38. Vasquez is a much better player. Jack is 30 and nowhere near Vasquez in terms of being a pure point guard. Atrocious deal? Awful deal? I see you are prone to hyperboles.

Chuck Diesel · Post #168 » by **Chuck Diesel** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:53 pm

We could get a handful of point guards on a Miroslav contract capable of providing quality minutes behind Wolters.

Baddy Chuck · Post #169 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:54 pm

Diggr14 wrote:Still, why even trade Knight and Henson for a guy like Bledsoe on a probable max"ish" contract. Knight and Henson are assets... especially if they have decent seasons next year. Bringing in Bledsoe would likely only help us win a few more games, and at very worse scenario push us to 8th seed levels again. We need another high lotto pick to bring into our talent pool. The timing on this is bad. Maybe in 2 years, but not now.

I agree with the wait a few years and see, but let's not act like Bledsoe would be a Monta Ellis level 8th seed move.

BigDoggyStyle · Post #170 » by **BigDoggyStyle** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:54 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/GeryWoelfel/status/485541090859048960[/tweet]

It's going down guys.

Balls2TheWalls · Post #171 » by **Balls2TheWalls** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:55 pm

BigDoggyStyle wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/GeryWoelfel/status/485541090859048960[/tweet]

It's going down guys.

Gery sucks.

JayMKE · Post #172 » by **JayMKE** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:55 pm

Vasquez is garbage, people get boners over his assist numbers that he had one year but he's an awful athlete and cannot defend. He'd be a good tank commander, maybe he'd do better playing in Europe. We don't need to sign a 27 year role player on our team long term, that's something the old Bucks would do.

Serge28 · Post #173 » by **Serge28** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:55 pm

WEFFPIM wrote:There have been oodles of evidence posted in this thread as to why that number is absurd for Vazquez. I like Vazquez, I've said as much. But for the number you're throwing out there? That's just lunacy.

That sad Jaguars fan agrees.

Show me these "oodles of evidence" cause I haven't seen any. I'd love to see evidence as to why $6-$7 million per year for a guy who had the most total assists in the entire NBA in 2012-2013, is 27, and a great outside shooter is "lunacy" "absurd" atrocious" and "awful"

BigDoggyStyle · Post #174 » by **BigDoggyStyle** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:56 pm

Balls2TheWalls wrote:
BigDoggyStyle wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/GeryWoelfel/status/485541090859048960[/tweet]

It's going down guys.

Gery sucks.

Yep, exactly why he'll be wrong and it'll happen.

Baddy Chuck · Post #175 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:57 pm

Serge28 wrote:Andre Miller is 38. Vasquez is a much better player. Jack is 30 and nowhere near Vasquez in terms of being a pure point guard. Atrocious deal? Awful deal? I see you are prone to hyperboles.

No hyperboles at all, it would be a very bad deal. Age really doesn't matter, they're still playing the same role and Andre Miller is arguably better at the role and paid less on a team that can actually use his production. It isn't like Vasquez is going to improve his game at 27. He is what he is at this point, which is a player I actually like, but 6-7 million on a rebuilding team is awful. I'm not even sure he's worth 6-7 million on a good team.

WEFFPIM · Post #176 » by **WEFFPIM** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:57 pm

Gery is my favorite.

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BigDoggyStyle · Post #177 » by **BigDoggyStyle** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:57 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/GeryWoelfel/status/485542559796563968[/tweet]

Gery covering himself, because he can't be wrong on both Lin and Bledsoe. Only one can happen.

Diggr14 · Post #178 » by **Diggr14** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:57 pm

Im ok with Vazquez/Nate.

Tank Commander II.. Vazquez last Stand.

Have patience, another high lotto pick is needed, especially at the 5 and there are several in this draft.

JayMKE · Post #179 » by **JayMKE** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:57 pm

Serge28 wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:
Serge28 wrote:Your list and conclusion are incongruent. You list a bunch of players that would be making more than the deal I propose, dismiss those that are worse as bad deals, do not list a single guy paid in the range I specified who is a better player and conclude that it's an "awful deal." What?

I don't even know the point you are trying to get across. I pointed our everyone on that list making less than $8 million a year, pretty much average starter money. There's like two comparable players in Jarrett Jack and Andre Miller. One is an awful deal that the Cavs are looking to give up a pick to get rid of and one is being paid less than you suggest on a much better team.

$6-7 million for Vasquez would be an atrocious deal.

Andre Miller is 38. Vasquez is a much better player. Jack is 30 and nowhere near Vasquez in terms of being a pure point guard. Atrocious deal? Awful deal? I see you are prone to hyperboles.

No, the only thing correct in this post are the ages of Jack and Miller.

WEFFPIM · Post #180 » by **WEFFPIM** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 9:58 pm

Serge28 wrote:
WEFFPIM wrote:There have been oodles of evidence posted in this thread as to why that number is absurd for Vazquez. I like Vazquez, I've said as much. But for the number you're throwing out there? That's just lunacy.

That sad Jaguars fan agrees.

Show me these "oodles of evidence" cause I haven't seen any. I'd love to see evidence as to why $6-$7 million per year for a guy who had the most total assists in the entire NBA in 2012-2013, is 27, and a great outside shooter is "lunacy" "absurd" atrocious" and "awful"

Seeing and ignoring are not the same.

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