Melo 17: Death or Glory

[SteelerSpartan]

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[Payt10]

Does Bill Simmons still think Thibs is being traded to Memphis?

[samwana]

Simmons just trying to stir the pot a little more.

[MoneyMitch]

I have a ton of faith in Melo to do the right thing

[Quinarvy]

I can confirm what Ralph said about Melo+Gasol, unless we have the same source Trade was discussed. Not sure why, since the Knicks would be taking away a lot of the leverage they have, but there's that.

[fleet]

Freud: Sometimes a hat is just a hat

Fleet, can you go ahead and post that roller coaster pic from a few threads back again....I get the feeling that this is exactly what we are headed for.

[TyrusRose2425]

I can confirm what Ralph said about Melo+Gasol, unless we have the same source Trade was discussed. Not sure why, since the Knicks would be taking away a lot of the leverage they have, but there's that.

WOAH! Thanks for the confirmation.

So can you be more specific? Are we talking trade with NY AND LA to bring them both in? Where is Taj going?

I don't know who and what the exact details are, but several teams are involved, so maybe it's just for Gasol? Not sure if that then lets us get Melo though.

[MalikJoakim24]

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[kulaz3000]

Go Wild...

[tweet]https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/485545108427653120[/tweet]

Huge fan of Bill's but he can't be trusted with breaking stories. He has basically turned himself into a running joke as a tv guy now.

[MoneyMitch]

#InMitchWeTrust

And you shall succeed

[TruthSerum]

Melo or we go chase Love really hard.

I think this may be the thread, the one that reflects our future. LETS GO BULLS!

I still don't understand why we're not chasing Love.

Not a FA it would be bad to chase Love without knowing if u can possibly get Melo without a trade.

Love will opt out or Minny will trade. As for Melo always looked like S&T was only real option.

[Zeb]

As mentioned before, the Lakers news is good as it gives us a bit more leverage in forcing a sign and trade.

[WinCity]

I can confirm what Ralph said about Melo+Gasol, unless we have the same source Trade was discussed. Not sure why, since the Knicks would be taking away a lot of the leverage they have, but there's that.

WOAH! Thanks for the confirmation.

So can you be more specific? Are we talking trade with NY AND LA to bring them both in? Where is Taj going?

I don't know who and what the exact details are, but several teams are involved, so maybe it's just for Gasol? Not sure if that then lets us get Melo though.

Cool. SO what exactly did you hear about Melo?

is this designed to clear the 22 mil that Ralph mentioned so we can offer it to Melo and still add Gasol?

[MalikJoakim24]

LETS GET IT DONE

Joakim & CREW GET IT DONE *

[RememberLu]

Go Wild...

[tweet]https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/485545108427653120[/tweet]

Huge fan of Bill's but he can't be trusted with breaking stories. He has basically turned himself into a running joke as a tv guy now.

I'm surprised he doesn't have Melo going to the Celtics

it must kill him to post positive news about the Lakers

[TheGOATRises007]

As mentioned before, the Lakers news is good as it gives us a bit more leverage in forcing a sign and trade.

What was the news?

[SlikRik7]

Totally believe Ralph but just trying to get my head around how this is even possible. Here is what we know

1) If we are using the MLE means we are not anestying Boozer in this scenario.
2) if we are not amnestying Boozer and are using the MLE means we would not be acquiring Gasol through cap space. So has to be a laker sign and trade of Gasol.
3) Would be getting Gasol for Gibson's exact salary, so we save no money in Gasol. Must be giving up Gibson for some other reason.
4) We would be signing Melo for the max which means has to be a NY sign and trade.

So overall we would have to be getting Gasol and Melo both through sign and trades. To get a maxed out Melo in a sign and trade from NY they need to take back 17.5m in salary. Of course this could be accomplished through giving then Boozer but in that scenario it's not clear how Gasol gets Melo a max contract with the Bulls. For Gasol to be integral must be that the Lakers the ones taking Boozer. What expiring do the lakers have? Looks like Nash is the main one at 9.7M. So we need to produce another 7.7M in palatable contacts for PJ to take. We've got 4M in non guaranteeds and Dunleavey and Snell.

So could be the Knicks get:
Nash/Dunleavy/Snell/non-guaranteeds+picks or other Bulls assets eg McD or Butler

Lakers get:
Gibson/Boozer+picks or other Bulls assets eg McD or Butler

Bulls get:
Melo/Gasol

Seems like this almost has to be the general outline of the trade implied by Raphs post, assuming a fourth team is not involved. Question is does it make sense for the Lakers or Knicks? Especially since both seem keen on signing Melo outright themselves. Why do they help us get him for more money than they could otherwise offer? And what does either want with Gibson, who doesn't seem like a great fit with their target horizons of contention? I would have thought the rights to Mirotic would have been the more valuable commodity to them.

[WhiteM0nkey]

so now everyone is optimistic, what a turn around from yesterday. is the new optimism from a poster showing how Melo can get max with the bulls and keep Jo, taj and rose?

[Zeb]

As mentioned before, the Lakers news is good as it gives us a bit more leverage in forcing a sign and trade.

What was the news?

Well, not legitimate news, but I was referring to Bill Simmons' tweet.

[ChiCitySPORTS#1]

But how does Lance Stephenson fit into all of this?!