Melo 17: Death or Glory

[Bo Dupp]

Can Carmelo please end all this speculation before Monday?

I have to earn a living too, you know?

[WinCity]

If someone other than the Knicks get Melo, the entire NY basketball media crowd should lose internet access for a year.

Lurking the Knicks board will be epic...

[TyrusRose2425]

Cool. SO what exactly did you hear about Melo?

is this designed to clear the 22 mil that Ralph mentioned so we can offer it to Melo and still add Gasol?

Scenario with Gasol+Anthony Incoming with Taj out has been discussed in form of multiple team trade.

Does that mean if he picks Chicago or that he is leaning that way?

I don't know sorry. My guess is the Knicks are still favorites but it's just a guess

[mrlancers]

I really wish you guys curb your enthusiasm. Because if he stays in NYC or surprises us all and goes to LA, this board will be insufferable.

It would be great to have Melo with the Bulls, but I'm not gonna emotionally invest myself until Woj tweets something.

[Red Larrivee]

Can Carmelo please end all this speculation before Monday?

I have to earn a living too, you know?

Reports say he will. This is nothing compared to the Summer of 2010. Melo knocked this out in a week and if he decides by Sunday or Monday, then props to him and his crew.

[WhiteM0nkey]

When do most people think he will make a decision?

[red222]

I really wish you guys curb your enthusiasm. Because if he stays in NYC or surprises us all and goes to LA, this board will be insufferable.

It would be great to have Melo with the Bulls, but I'm not gonna emotionally invest myself until Woj tweets something.

It has been the last 2 years already we deserve this **** .

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[DanTown8587]

how many times does Simmons have to run with some "sources say something positive for one of the two LA teams"? I feel like at this point, they're just trolling him.

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[CousinOfDeath]

I've been hurt too many times...

[WinCity]

I really wish you guys curb your enthusiasm. Because if he stays in NYC or surprises us all and goes to LA, this board will be insufferable.

It would be great to have Melo with the Bulls, but I'm not gonna emotionally invest myself until Woj tweets something.

[MalikJoakim24]

Alex: I think it’s down to New York or Chicago. I could honestly see it going either way, but I’ll stick with the Bulls. That has been my prediction from the beginning so I’ll stay with it, even though reports of Anthony liking Phil Jackson’s vision do make me less confident in my prediction. I just think the situation in Chicago is very attractive and I think he’ll take the chance to compete for a championship over the mega contract, just like Howard did last summer when he chose the Rockets over the Lakers. Fortunately, it sounds like we’ll have a decision from Anthony soon so this process won’t be dragged out too much longer.

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[johnnyvann840]

OT: Dutch and Tiko's going to penalty kicks.

[TheSuzerain]

Costa Rica - Dutch is insane.

[WinCity]

Alex: I think it’s down to New York or Chicago. I could honestly see it going either way, but I’ll stick with the Bulls. That has been my prediction from the beginning so I’ll stay with it, even though reports of Anthony liking Phil Jackson’s vision do make me less confident in my prediction. I just think the situation in Chicago is very attractive and I think he’ll take the chance to compete for a championship over the mega contract, just like Howard did last summer when he chose the Rockets over the Lakers. Fortunately, it sounds like we’ll have a decision from Anthony soon so this process won’t be dragged out too much longer.

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[SpankinMyHeat]

just go to preferences and do it bra

please don't

We should all be adding Mitch's pic as our avatars instead...

[MalikJoakim24]

just go to preferences and do it bra

please don't

We should all be adding Mitch's pic as our avatars instead...

no thanks

[MGB8]

I think you would just do 2 trades.

First a 3 way where Boozer, MJD and non-guaranteed's go to LA for a 22 million dollar traded player exception. The TPE & picks go to NY for Melo.

2nd Taj goes to the Lakers for Pau Gasol, which sweetens the deal for LA since Pau can walk for nothing.

Totally believe Ralph but just trying to get my head around how this is even possible. Here is what we know

1) If we are using the MLE means we are not anestying Boozer in this scenario.
2) if we are not amnestying Boozer and are using the MLE means we would not be acquiring Gasol through cap space. So has to be a laker sign and trade of Gasol.
3) Would be getting Gasol for Gibson's exact salary, so we save no money in Gasol. Must be giving up Gibson for some other reason.
4) We would be signing Melo for the max which means has to be a NY sign and trade.

So overall we would have to be getting Gasol and Melo both through sign and trades. To get a maxed out Melo in a sign and trade from NY they need to take back 17.5m in salary. Of course this could be accomplished through giving then Boozer but in that scenario it's not clear how Gasol gets Melo a max contract with the Bulls. For Gasol to be integral must be that the Lakers the ones taking Boozer. What expiring do the lakers have? Looks like Nash is the main one at 9.7M. So we need to produce another 7.7M in palatable contacts for PJ to take. We've got 4M in non guaranteeds and Dunleavey and Snell.

So could be the Knicks get:
Nash/Dunleavy/Snell/non-guaranteeds+picks or other Bulls assets eg McD or Butler

Lakers get:
Gibson/Boozer+picks or other Bulls assets eg McD or Butler

Bulls get:
Melo/Gasol

Seems like this almost has to be the general outline of the trade implied by Raphs post, assuming a fourth team is not involved. Question is does it make sense for the Lakers or Knicks? Especially since both seem keen on signing Melo outright themselves. Why do they help us get him for more money than they could otherwise offer? And what does either want with Gibson, who doesn't seem like a great fit with their target horizons of contention? I would have thought the rights to Mirotic would have been the more valuable commodity to them.

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