MeloDrama Part V

[ezmoney707]

I dont like this at all. He must've made a decision by now. Combine that with the Laker rumors that could easily be viewed as leverage, and every motherf*cker on the bulls forum having a source.

one dude over there says that he is friends with some guys in a big chicago law firm. They supposedly told him melo's lawyers would be in chicago tomorrow, and then followed up by saying that they now say melo will be there tomorrow as well.

I thought I'd be cool with whatever happened, but I'm not. I'm kinda freaking out and pissed. Goddammit.

Calm ya a$$ down

[Starksfor3]

Were Isola and Berman also duped? Cause they were already saying Melo was coming back.

This is odd. It seems like a negotiating ploy. But why if we are offering the max?

[KNIXFAN_83]

Here's what you guys are missing. This is negotiation on the highest level outside of anything in regards to government and foreign diplomacy. Right now Leon Rose and Carmelo lost leverage in negotiations due to the bulls low balling melo. They were the only clear threat. Now with that said the lakers offered a max contract. So now Leon is using that Max offer to now gain an increase in the contract the Knicks offered. Knicks are most likely offering between 100-110 mill and melo and Leon want 110-120 mill. That's all this is guys. Use the lakers to drive up the price. Negotiation 101. Your welcome.


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[Red Vines]

WTF is Melo doing right now? Where's TMZ when you need them? Make a damn decision.

[Starksfor3]

Here's what you guys are missing. This is negotiation on the highest level outside of anything in regards to government and foreign diplomacy. Right now Leon Rose and Carmelo lost leverage in negotiations due to the bulls low balling melo. They were the only clear threat. Now with that said the lakers offered a max contract. So now Leon is using that Max offer to now gain an increase in the contract the Knicks offered. Knicks are most likely offering between 100-110 mill and melo and Leon want 110-120 mill. That's all this is guys. Use the lakers to drive up the price. Negotiation 101. Your welcome.


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What about my welcome?

[K_ick_God]

After Friday's meeting with Knicks president Phil Jackson and coach Derek Fisher, sources told Yahoo Sports that Anthony had become more comfortable with Jackson's plan to use him as the cornerstone to lure free agent stars into salary cap space in 2015 and '16. One thing that still bothers Anthony is Jackson had wanted him to take less than a max contract, sources told Yahoo Sports.

Possible translation (possible): Leon Rose knows he can't use the Bulls as a threat in the final negotiations over the contract terms, so he's using the Lakers, who have a lot of money to offer over 4.

Melo not really willing to give up a lot of money, or at least his agent is not.

So while Phil said you can have it all, but I'd like you to take less. Melo doesn't want to take it all, but he wants to take close to all. Phil wants 4M less, Melo wants 1M less. Haggling now but Leon needs some haggling leverage.

Pile of feces Leon Rose leaks Lakers to improve his standing in negotiations to get close to 1M reduction or whatever the number is.

If Phil offered him the MAX, then he offered him the MAX.

Melo could just take it. He doesn't have to haggle.

Yeah but Wojina's story makes it vague. Phil wants him to take less -- so was the Max offered or not? Maybe what they want is just for Phil to take the "We wanted him to take less" off the table. The Lakers as a possibility eases the burden on Melo. Or Melo wants to take less, too, but they're haggling over how much.

So it's kind of like "I know you want me to take less but he Lakers don't want me to take any less, so let's just settle at 1.5M less and we have a deal."

Remember, too, that the agent can play good cop and bad cop. So Leon can be like "The Lakers haven't asked Melo to make any sacrifices but you have. Melo wants to stay in New York but he's also interested in L.A. As his agent, I'd rather him go to L.A. than have Melo take 3M less."

There's also this line being possible: "We don't want you to be uncomfortable with a full Max. Melo respects you too much Phil. We should go to L.A. if you're not comfortable completely. We don't want to damage your plan Phil."

So even if the Max is really there for the taking, Leon can use L.A. just to loosen things up, remove pressure, squeeze a few more dollars.

Just a theory.

[nyjetsknicks420]

Here's what you guys are missing. This is negotiation on the highest level outside of anything in regards to government and foreign diplomacy. Right now Leon Rose and Carmelo lost leverage in negotiations due to the bulls low balling melo. They were the only clear threat. Now with that said the lakers offered a max contract. So now Leon is using that Max offer to now gain an increase in the contract the Knicks offered. Knicks are most likely offering between 100-110 mill and melo and Leon want 110-120 mill. That's all this is guys. Use the lakers to drive up the price. Negotiation 101. Your welcome.


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wasn't it already comfirmed Knicks offered the max?

[VirginiaKnickFan]

Here's what you guys are missing. This is negotiation on the highest level outside of anything in regards to government and foreign diplomacy. Right now Leon Rose and Carmelo lost leverage in negotiations due to the bulls low balling melo. They were the only clear threat. Now with that said the lakers offered a max contract. So now Leon is using that Max offer to now gain an increase in the contract the Knicks offered. Knicks are most likely offering between 100-110 mill and melo and Leon want 110-120 mill. That's all this is guys. Use the lakers to drive up the price. Negotiation 101. Your welcome.


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But we already offered the max.

[VirginiaKnickFan]

Here's what you guys are missing. This is negotiation on the highest level outside of anything in regards to government and foreign diplomacy. Right now Leon Rose and Carmelo lost leverage in negotiations due to the bulls low balling melo. They were the only clear threat. Now with that said the lakers offered a max contract. So now Leon is using that Max offer to now gain an increase in the contract the Knicks offered. Knicks are most likely offering between 100-110 mill and melo and Leon want 110-120 mill. That's all this is guys. Use the lakers to drive up the price. Negotiation 101. Your welcome.


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wasn't it already comfirmed Knicks offered the max?

Yes

[Starksfor3]

If Melo does us like this, Lebron's first trip back to Cleveland after signing with Miami will look like a hero's welcome compared to the reaction Melo will get when he comes back to MSG. I want batteries thrown at his fat ass.

[kane2021]

We already busted our asses to give him everything he wanted. What have we gotten in return? I might sound like a bitch but I don't want this dude back.

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[BimboColes]

Lakers make no sense because they are a worse team AND he gets paid less. Worst of both worlds. If he somehow wants to walk to LA sign and trade him for the Lakers inevitable lottery pick next year and watch him demand a trade next offseason.

Really wouldn't be too upset if he left at this point. I understand how good he is, but he's not serious about winning and I think deep down everyone knows that may be the right move in the longterm. There are guys that leave your city and you're sad to see them go (ie Ewing, Messier, etc), but Anthony has been pretty unlikeable during his time here truth be told and I don't know how much I'll miss him. 3 years here and one playoff series win (that quite frankly almost didn't happen). Maybe it's better for us if he makes $25 million a year to lead his team to the 10th seed in the West instead leading us to the 10th seed in the East

[cubanKnick]

Here's what you guys are missing. This is negotiation on the highest level outside of anything in regards to government and foreign diplomacy. Right now Leon Rose and Carmelo lost leverage in negotiations due to the bulls low balling melo. They were the only clear threat. Now with that said the lakers offered a max contract. So now Leon is using that Max offer to now gain an increase in the contract the Knicks offered. Knicks are most likely offering between 100-110 mill and melo and Leon want 110-120 mill. That's all this is guys. Use the lakers to drive up the price. Negotiation 101. Your welcome.


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Then I hope tells them to shove it, we dont need this career NBA loser at a kobemax

[vallen]

Possible translation (possible): Leon Rose knows he can't use the Bulls as a threat in the final negotiations over the contract terms, so he's using the Lakers, who have a lot of money to offer over 4.

Melo not really willing to give up a lot of money, or at least his agent is not.

So while Phil said you can have it all, but I'd like you to take less. Melo doesn't want to take it all, but he wants to take close to all. Phil wants 4M less, Melo wants 1M less. Haggling now but Leon needs some haggling leverage.

Pile of feces Leon Rose leaks Lakers to improve his standing in negotiations to get close to 1M reduction or whatever the number is.

If Phil offered him the MAX, then he offered him the MAX.

Melo could just take it. He doesn't have to haggle.

Yeah but Wojina's story makes it vague. Phil wants him to take less -- so was the Max offered or not? Maybe what they want is just for Phil to take the "We wanted him to take less" off the table. The Lakers as a possibility eases the burden on Melo. Or Melo wants to take less, too, but they're haggling over how much.

So it's kind of like "I know you want me to take less but he Lakers don't want me to take any less, so let's just settle at 1.5M less and we have a deal."

Remember, too, that the agent can play good cop and bad cop. So Leon can be like "The Lakers haven't asked Melo to make any sacrifices but you have. Melo wants to stay in New York but he's also interested in L.A. As his agent, I'd rather him go to L.A. than have Melo take 3M less."

There's also this line being possible: "We don't want you to be uncomfortable with a full Max. Melo respects you too much Phil. We should go to L.A. if you're not comfortable completely. We don't want to damage your plan Phil."

So even if the Max is really there for the taking, Leon can use L.A. just to loosen things up, remove pressure, squeeze a few more dollars.

Just a theory.

its a lot more then 1.5 or 3 mill....that 5th year is 30 mill. he will be LUCKY to have a deal like Duncans around 10 mill at 35-36 years old...so maybe the max wasnt offered. or maybe we offered a 4 year max ..

[Red Vines]

We already busted our asses to give him everything he wanted. What have we gotten in return? I might sound like a bitch but I don't want this dude back.

If his heart is really in NY this should have been over by now.

[VirginiaKnickFan]

The Jeannie and Phil relationship should be interesting going forward if he leaves for the Lakers.

[Jay10]

Were Isola and Berman also duped? Cause they were already saying Melo was coming back.

This is odd. It seems like a negotiating ploy. But why if we are offering the max?

I don't think Phil offered Carmelo a max contract.

[god shammgod]

no matter what happens, this has all been a monumental waste of time. frankly, i'm ashamed of myself.

[ophdog]

Twitter in my phone. Boards on my ipad refreshing both waiting for the bomb to drop.

[moocow007]

I have some Valium if anyone wants, though I doubt it'll be enough for everyone that might need it on this board.