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MeloDrama Part V

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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#341 » by kane » Sun Jul 6, 2014 3:04 am

Remember when

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Was a lock to win a ring? They were lucky and backed into the playoffs for a first round exit, or what about the time before with Gary Paton and Karl Malone? When will they learn just throwing random stars together doesn't work?

Now I think melo and lebron would be a good starting point but Kobe maybe if he can stay healthy and looks to pass first :lol: and put Nash out to pasture... And if it's just melo and pau with Kobe ROFL they won't even be a top 5 team In the west

What happen to all this talk that he doesn't want to take his kids out of school and force them to move again, only chance if one of these teams can give him the max and let him contend right away ... LA only with lebron or bulls by some miracle they can clear the cap space
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#342 » by nyjetsknicks420 » Sun Jul 6, 2014 3:04 am

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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#343 » by The Boss Speaks » Sun Jul 6, 2014 3:05 am

VirginiaKnickFan wrote:
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Would it get Melo any more money?


No. He can't get more money in a sign and trade. It's a new CBA.


So there's not much value in any asset that the Knicks could expect to receive back from the Lakers assuming they agreed to a S & T.



Aside from a hobbled Kobe, they don't have JACK to offer.....and I don't need anymore picks because next year I'm drafting my center and signing my allstar PF.


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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#344 » by TheBigBoss » Sun Jul 6, 2014 3:06 am

What if Melo signs a 4 year deal with Lebron in LA with an opt out after year two, that would give th Knicks a chance to rebuild the team and then maybe bring Melo & Durant to NY together in 2016. Thats an interesting idea that could satisfy both the let Melo walk crowd and the keep Melo crowd.
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#345 » by CoolKids » Sun Jul 6, 2014 3:07 am

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Staple Nash to Randle and ship them out easily.

still not enough. unless theyre both taking 15 mill. In which case they could do that in Miami and have wade and bosh. so again, not in this lifetime


Hmm. What's the exact number if they clear Randle and Nash?

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The lakers would have to get rid of everyone. Kobes salary alone would leave them with 39.7 Million in cap space. When you consider capholds and the fact that there are actually other players on the roste, the prospect of Lebron and Melo signing there becomes unrealistic. if they wanted to take a paycut sure but both have indiciated that 15 mill would be giving up too much.
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Post#346 » by CoolKids » Sun Jul 6, 2014 3:08 am

Id sign and trade Melo to the lakers for Randle Marshall and picks if worse came to worse.
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Post#347 » by The Boss Speaks » Sun Jul 6, 2014 3:10 am

CoolKids wrote:
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CoolKids wrote:still not enough. unless theyre both taking 15 mill. In which case they could do that in Miami and have wade and bosh. so again, not in this lifetime


Hmm. What's the exact number if they clear Randle and Nash?

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The lakers would have to get rid of everyone. Kobes salary alone would leave them with 39.7 Million in cap space. When you consider capholds and the fact that there are actually other players on the roste, the prospect of Lebron and Melo signing there becomes unrealistic. if they wanted to take a paycut sure but both have indiciated that 15 mill would be giving up too much.



They HAVE TO take their market value (maybe close to it)....see the cba fo mo info :crazy:
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#348 » by CoolKids » Sun Jul 6, 2014 3:13 am

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Hmm. What's the exact number if they clear Randle and Nash?

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The lakers would have to get rid of everyone. Kobes salary alone would leave them with 39.7 Million in cap space. When you consider capholds and the fact that there are actually other players on the roste, the prospect of Lebron and Melo signing there becomes unrealistic. if they wanted to take a paycut sure but both have indiciated that 15 mill would be giving up too much.



They HAVE TO take their market value (maybe close to it)....see the cba fo mo info :crazy:

No but they arent going too. Lebrons agent has outright said he wants the max. Melo appears to want the same. If theyre both going to take 15 mill it will be in Miami....please read carefully.
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Post#349 » by aj49689 » Sun Jul 6, 2014 3:13 am

TheBigBoss wrote:What if Melo signs a 4 year deal with Lebron in LA with an opt out after year two, that would give th Knicks a chance to rebuild the team and then maybe bring Melo & Durant to NY together in 2016. Thats an interesting idea that could satisfy both the let Melo walk crowd and the keep Melo crowd.


Melo would be taking a big risk of not being worth what he is right now if he takes a short contract. Opt out clause would be in there but not likely after 2 years. The older he gets the less he will be worth and likely to get injury's. Just like Amare won't be worth more then 10 mil unless he has a Phenomenal contract year this year and I doubt he would get even 10 mil. Melo should take 5 years with opt-out and try to score a 8 mil a year contract if he can stay healthy. Winning a ring wise, he would be best off joining Miami for 1 year but his stats would take a dip and he wouldnt be able to get a 20 mil plus contract. No way the media makes him out to be what he is right now if he only averages 16 points a game or even 22.
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#350 » by CoolKids » Sun Jul 6, 2014 3:15 am

aj49689 wrote:
TheBigBoss wrote:What if Melo signs a 4 year deal with Lebron in LA with an opt out after year two, that would give th Knicks a chance to rebuild the team and then maybe bring Melo & Durant to NY together in 2016. Thats an interesting idea that could satisfy both the let Melo walk crowd and the keep Melo crowd.


Melo would be taking a big risk of not being worth what he is right now if he takes a short contract. Opt out clause would be in there but not likely after 2 years. The older he gets the less he will be worth and likely to get injury's. Just like Amare won't be worth more then 10 mil unless he has a Phenomenal contract year this year and I doubt he would get 10 even 10 mil. He should take 5 years with opt-out and try to score a 8 mil a year contract if he can stay healthy. Winning a ring wise, he would be best off joining Miami for 1 year but his stats would take a dip and he wouldnt be able to get a 20 mil plus contract. No way the media makes him out to be what he is right now if he only averages 16 points a game or even 22.

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Post#351 » by CoolKids » Sun Jul 6, 2014 3:22 am

melo going to Miami is a risky proposition for him though. Lebron Wade and Bosh have shown they can get it done. If you add Melo to the mix and they dont win? Who do you think is getting blamed?
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Post#352 » by AmazingJason » Sun Jul 6, 2014 3:24 am

CoolKids wrote:melo going to Miami is a risky proposition for him though. Lebron Wade and Bosh have shown they can get it done. If you add Melo to the mix and they dont win? Who do you think is getting blamed?


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Post#353 » by mrcalzone » Sun Jul 6, 2014 3:27 am

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Post#354 » by Red Vines » Sun Jul 6, 2014 3:29 am

So how does the decision get announced? I'm guessing Melo's Twitter?
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Post#355 » by aj49689 » Sun Jul 6, 2014 3:30 am

CoolKids wrote:melo going to Miami is a risky proposition for him though. Lebron Wade and Bosh have shown they can get it done. If you add Melo to the mix and they dont win? Who do you think is getting blamed?


I figure its his best chance at winning a ring but is one of the worst case scenario's for Melo. Unless they let Bosh go and was still able to pick up another decent free agent. I still don't think they would let bosh go unless bosh decided to leave. I feel like Lebron isn't wanting to leave Miami, and if they caught L.Deng then he is likely to stay. It seems funny to me that if Lebron and Melo stay with their teams, all these other teams trying to clear enough space for them to sign for nothing. It seems like the big 3 in south beach had planned this before free agency started and could possibly just be trying to throw everyone off while they let things simmer.
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Post#356 » by knicksup19 » Sun Jul 6, 2014 3:31 am

They said on ESPN that LA can sign Meloand then Pau with Bird rights. But dont they have to fully renounce pau To clear cap space thus alleviated the cap hold generated by bird rights?

Thats my understanding

also wouldnt that then mean pau must sign for Min.
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Post#357 » by Red Vines » Sun Jul 6, 2014 3:34 am

knicksup19 wrote:They said on ESPN that LA can sign Meloand then Pau with Bird rights. But dont they have to fully renounce pau To clear cap space thus alleviated the cap hold generated by bird rights?

Thats my understanding

also wouldnt that then mean pau must sign for Min.


According to Eric Pincus on Twitter, they have to first renounce Pau or re-sign him for less because right now he takes up $20 mil in cap space.
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Post#358 » by aj49689 » Sun Jul 6, 2014 3:34 am

Red Vines wrote:So how does the decision get announced? I'm guessing Melo's Twitter?



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Post#359 » by liknicks7 » Sun Jul 6, 2014 3:34 am

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Post#360 » by nyknicks8016 » Sun Jul 6, 2014 3:35 am

knicksup19 wrote:They said on ESPN that LA can sign Meloand then Pau with Bird rights. But dont they have to fully renounce pau To clear cap space thus alleviated the cap hold generated by bird rights?

Thats my understanding

also wouldnt that then mean pau must sign for Min.


Yes Pau would have to renounce his bird rights....Giving Melo the Max would put the Lakers at around 56 million plus around 4 million in cap holds

so they would ahve around 3 million to spend...

Basically the team would be nothing...If MElo wants to go to that it makes no sense to me..

Woj in his article said its intrigueing to Melo that they have no long term projects um dont the Knicks have the same thing?

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