Official Bojan Bogdanovic thread

[kerry kittles]

Can anyone provide more information in terms of how you think he can fit and what expectations we should have for his first season if he comes over? It's seeming much more plausible he will be on the team next year based on reports I've heard.

From what I've read and seen on Youtube highlights:
-Poor man's Peja as comparison
-knockdown shooter though regressed last season
- good passer
- poor, but improving defender

My biggest concerns at the moment:
1. This was a quote from his draft express report in 2010 "Defensively, Bogdanovic is below average at best at the European level, and could have major issues guarding his position in the NBA if he doesn't improve substantially in this area. He has poor lateral quickness and looks very upright in his stance on the perimeter, making him a frequent target for coaches to isolate against in the Euroleague. His effort doesn't always appear to be the best either."

That is 4 years ago so things can change, but would seem he would've needed a improve a lot to get to the point where he is not a defensive liability in NBA. Does anyone know where he stands currently? I would worry about him starting next to DWill whose an inconsistent defender. Livingston's best attribute was he was a good, versatile defender who could limit an opponent top wing player. So I have reservations here.

2. Where does he fit in the starting lineup? Is he even a starter? It says on ND he would likely play at the small forward slot. So does that mean he's coming off the bench or we'd slide Joe back to the two guard. I think Joe is too slow to guard quick shooting guards and played better moving to SF. I think we have to view him as SF now and going forward.

3. He regressed as a shooter this past season. Went from 48.9/40.5 to 46.8/29.8 last season. That drop off from 40.5% to 29.8% is concerning to me as that is what I think should be his calling card in the league.

Can anyone do anything to quell these doubts, provide further insight.

Sorry to divergence from the offseason thread. It's just somethings seem to get sidetracked there.

[Prokorov]

I have no idea what he is... i watched 3 of his games this year and highlights from the rest. it wasnt impressed, but it was also during a period of time when he really struggled. His defense seemed ok to me. he didnt stand out as being so terrible that you are always like "WTF bogs what are you doing" but he also wasnt someone you'd ever notice as making good defensive plays. its also hard to tell, cause they played so much zone.

my biggest concern for him would be he played a TON with the ball as the main guy and almost like their point gaurd. he would bring the ball up alot and run pick and rolls and shoot a ton off the dribble. even if he is on his game, im not sure how he fits into a lineup where he would be a 4th option. we saw what happened when dwill/jj/pierce/brook played togther. 4 unselfish guys but their games all took a dip because they are all used to scoring with the ball. i think the same might be a concern with bogs. for that reaosn, i dont think he could start.

he is a good 3 point shooter. and when he gets going he seems to really build confidence. i dont see the peja comparisons at all. he plays nothing like that. id say he plays alot more like monte ellis. super aggressive with the ball in his hand and most of his jumpers off the dribble.

nothing would suprise me. if he came and was great or if he came, sucked, and was out of the rotation. so hard to tell. we have an odd mix of players, have alot of guys who need the ball. we REALLY need a role guy in the starting lineup. thats why we did so much better replacing a 20 ppg efficient scorer with shaun livingston. we need a 3 and D guy.

[Keith Van Horn]

I don't know enough about him. I know a lot of Nets fans are high on bringing him over, but Nets fans can be sold on almost anyone. I would like for this guy to do well if we sign him, but part of me still thinks we should give the money elsewhere.

[Lamak]

I think his shooting and ball handling would help the offense a ton. Bring him over.

[Paradise]

Well, this is his best chance at coming over. He was ranked as the 2nd best euro stash prospect behind Chicago's Nikola Mirotic.

The Spurs have asked about dealing for his rights and Toronto wanted him for Lowry back in December. That's how much value holds.

Strengths:

-6'7 large frame
-Talented passer
-Good low post game
- Three point shooting potential
-Ablity to finish dunks/layups in traffic
-Aggressive at attacking the basket
-Adequate rebounder
-Quick hands on steals
-Clutch


Weaknesses:

-Defensive effort but I'm improving
-Limited athleticism
-Inconsistent three point shooting
-Lacks some maturity

Player Comparison: [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=148-0tuH1Qw&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/youtube]


He has been considered a rising star in Europe. He had a weird and terrible season with Fenerbache under a great coach. His passing, defense and decision making improved but his offense went through a massive drought. He had his worst season shooting the ball as a pro.

I wouldn't be too worried about it. He's been a 40% 3 point shooter for the majority of his career and his stroke is pretty pure enough for him to quickly adapt to the NBA three point line. His main position is Small Forward but his skills as a ball handler, shooter and low post skills allows him to also be able to play Shooting Guard. Much like Mirza, he steps up against competition. Tons of confidence. And poise.

Vs Durant:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QOrB7hHYQg&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/youtube]

In a few years, he can firmly be our sixth man but he needs to be brought along slowly until he has adapted to the NBA level. I expect him to go through the same rough moments Mirza did in his rookie season.

Our bench should be really good by next season with Bogdanovic, Teletovic, Plumlee and Brown having a good amount of NBA experience.

[Prokorov]

I don't know enough about him. I know a lot of Nets fans are high on bringing him over, but Nets fans can be sold on almost anyone. I would like for this guy to do well if we sign him, but part of me still thinks we should give the money elsewhere.

I'd agree with this. even if you told me he would be a good player in year one, i'd still rather give the money to a defensive minded SG who can step in for livingston. I really want a 3 & D glue guy. if we were somehow able to trade for tony allen, that would change things, but i really cant see memphis moving him for anything we have.

For me, i dont have many doubts he will be good offensively. my doubts are he can be good offensively without having extremely high usage. i think if he was here as 6th man he could make a big impact, but with us desperatly needing a new starting SG/SF who can defend, im not sure bogs is the way to go

either way, i wouldnt be upset if he came over this year, im excited to see what he can do

[Cenkbakir]

Hi guys , Fenerbahce fan here.I can give you some info about Bojan.

Firstly , sorry for my poor english.

He is good scorer for sure.
Great finisher in traffic.
He has good low post game but his size provides him in Europe.I am not sure how he can do in NBA.
His defence is improving and he has all tools what he needs for that.
He is mentally weak.He can demoralize so easy.
Not a good ball handler.
Average athleticism.
Average rebounder.
İnconsistent three point shooter.

İ think his potential high but he needs 1-2 years for NBA adaption.

Best Case:Wally Szczerbiak
Worst Case:Jiri Welsch

[MrDollarBills]

Hi guys , Fenerbahce fan here.I can give you some info about Bojan.

Firstly , sorry for my poor english.

He is good scorer for sure.
Great finisher in traffic.
He has good low post game but his size provides him in Europe.I am not sure how he can do in NBA.
His defence is improving and he has all tools what he needs for that.
He is mentally weak.He can demoralize so easy.
Not a good ball handler.
Average athleticism.
Average rebounder.
İnconsistent three point shooter.

İ think his potential high but he needs 1-2 years for NBA adaption.

Best Case:Wally Szczerbiak
Worst Case:Jiri Welsch

Thank you for this review.

From the looks of this, he'd fit right in with the rest of the under achievers and losers on this roster.

[Prokorov]

Hi guys , Fenerbahce fan here.I can give you some info about Bojan.

Firstly , sorry for my poor english.

He is good scorer for sure.
Great finisher in traffic.
He has good low post game but his size provides him in Europe.I am not sure how he can do in NBA.
His defence is improving and he has all tools what he needs for that.
He is mentally weak.He can demoralize so easy.
Not a good ball handler.
Average athleticism.
Average rebounder.
İnconsistent three point shooter.

İ think his potential high but he needs 1-2 years for NBA adaption.

Best Case:Wally Szczerbiak
Worst Case:Jiri Welsch

do you think he can play well as the 4th or 5th option? or does he need to be the 1st option to be effective?

[Cenkbakir]

Hi guys , Fenerbahce fan here.I can give you some info about Bojan.

Firstly , sorry for my poor english.

He is good scorer for sure.
Great finisher in traffic.
He has good low post game but his size provides him in Europe.I am not sure how he can do in NBA.
His defence is improving and he has all tools what he needs for that.
He is mentally weak.He can demoralize so easy.
Not a good ball handler.
Average athleticism.
Average rebounder.
İnconsistent three point shooter.

İ think his potential high but he needs 1-2 years for NBA adaption.

Best Case:Wally Szczerbiak
Worst Case:Jiri Welsch

do you think he can play well as the 4th or 5th option? or does he need to be the 1st option to be effective?

Actually i think , being 4th or 5th option best for him.As i said , he is good finisher but not good ball-handler.He was first option and primary ball-handler for a long time last year and it didn't go very well.

[MrTwister]

Deal for Bogdanovic is almost done according to one of my source.

edit: value of the contract is 10.3/3 which is mMLE i think.

[Cenkbakir]

Deal for Bogdanovic is almost done according to one of my source.

Yep , turkish media says also same thing.

[Prokorov]

If it is true then we REALLY have our work cut out for us finding a livingston replacement/wing defender. Excited he is finally coming over though. I dont see him starting here with pierce and joe. not enough ball to go around and not enough speed on the perimeter.

Bringing back anderson i think is important now. or maybe we bring back a wing defender for thornton or pierce?

Dwill | Guitierez
??? | Thornton | Brown
Johnson | Bogdanovic
Pierce | Teletovic | Kirilenko
Garnett | Lopez | Plumlee

All we have left to add to this team is the vets minimum or bringing someone back via trade.

[Keith Van Horn]

So will Mirza and this guy get along? Are they friendly?

Prok, I think it's a must that we bring Anderson back just as a glue, defensive minded SG to start alongside Deron. He fills that bill perfectly. I know people hated on him last year but for what we got him for, he was worth it. Hope he resigns.


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[MrDollarBills]

Trade Pierce now, plz.

[Prokorov]

So will Mirza and this guy get along? Are they friendly?

Prok, I think it's a must that we bring Anderson back just as a glue, defensive minded SG to start alongside Deron. He fills that bill perfectly. I know people hated on him last year but for what we got him for, he was worth it. Hope he resigns.


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I agree. Anderson has to be the next priorty (along with sorting out pierce). when you look at the list of free agents, there is NOTHING at G/F of any value for the league minimum. I like anderson, he is a bulldog and he works on the defensive end. and his shot jacking gets curbed a bit when you put him with the starters.

[Prokorov]

Trade Pierce now, plz.

If we can get a first for him from the clips, id trade him as well. especially if hollins wants to go big.

[Paradise]

So will Mirza and this guy get along? Are they friendly?

Prok, I think it's a must that we bring Anderson back just as a glue, defensive minded SG to start alongside Deron. He fills that bill perfectly. I know people hated on him last year but for what we got him for, he was worth it. Hope he resigns.


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I agree. Anderson has to be the next priorty (along with sorting out pierce). when you look at the list of free agents, there is NOTHING at G/F of any value for the league minimum. I like anderson, he is a bulldog and he works on the defensive end. and his shot jacking gets curbed a bit when you put him with the starters.

We might end up sorting out the wing defender spot via trade and adding a PG with the minimum. If the Cavs want to dump salary asap, we aren't a trade partner for them anymore.

If we don't bring back Pierce, we can ask for Matt Barnes to be included in a deal.

[Prokorov]

been reading alot on him this morning. does he have some attitude issues/mentally weak? if so, thats really not something we need more of and not the greatest fit with Hollins. we have enough guys who fold or dont play hard.

im hoping it was just a run in with that particular team/coach and not something that will continue to be an issue here

[MrDollarBills]

Yeah if he is mentally weak this may be a waste of the exception because Hollins will tear him apart.