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Melo 17: Death or Glory

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Re: Melo 17: Death or Glory 

Post#1781 » by TyrusRose2425 » Sun Jul 6, 2014 5:07 pm

Michael Scott wrote:I wish there was another thread ONLY for twitter updates/ rumors. And this one can remain discussion and speculation.

But there needs to be an easier way to find the latest update.

We had something similar for D-Rose a few years ago. Made the thread.
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Re: Melo 17: Death or Glory 

Post#1782 » by RememberLu » Sun Jul 6, 2014 5:07 pm

Bulls have to be kidding, first Pau now Big Baby?

Big Baby makes the prospect of signing Pau look good suddenly. Jesus Christ.

Do they realize we need some guards?
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Re: Melo 17: Death or Glory 

Post#1783 » by WinCity » Sun Jul 6, 2014 5:07 pm

Darius Miles Davis wrote:Fish, I'm a mind reader. I just read this:

@NBARumorPress: On the not-as-exciting, not-Melo front: Glen Davis' reps have been in contact with the Bulls.



Oh lord. Dont bring him here. He already has weight issues. Once he gets a sniff of the pizza, hotdogs and Italian beef... Mike Sweetney all over again.
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Re: Melo 17: Death or Glory 

Post#1784 » by IrishBeatdown » Sun Jul 6, 2014 5:08 pm

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pylb wrote:Has this been posted ?

Apparently Boozer put this up on his Instagram then deleted it:
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ugh, I hate cryptic stuff like this. It means nothing and it means anything you want it to

Boozer pissed off he got the S&T treatment just now. Betrayed he became just a piece to acquiring Melo. Sources say it's a done deal.
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Re: Melo 17: Death or Glory 

Post#1785 » by coldfish » Sun Jul 6, 2014 5:08 pm

Sonny_D1 wrote:
coldfish wrote:Here is a capspace team:
Rose / DJ (room exc)
Butler
Melo / McDermott
......
Noah
+ 7 vet mim contracts / scrubs

Here is a team where the Bulls give up Boozer, nonguaranteeds and 4 future 1sts for Melo
Rose / DJ (part of MLE)
Butler / Dunleavey
Melo / McDermott
Taj / Mirotic (part of MLE)
Noah
+ 4 vet min contracts / scrubs

See the difference?


The difference is I think you have your numbers wrong. There's a thread open that explains how we can give Melo $20m and still keep Taj, Butler and sign Mirotic. Yet somehow in your scenario we'd have to strip the entire team to give Melo the extra $2m in year one and end up with just McDermott on the bench. Granted I'm not a cap guru and my math might be off here, but please explain.


Well, I'll start off this way, Mirotic has a $3M buyout. If he takes the room exception ($2.5M per year), he is going to be playing for very little money. Its going to take more than that. Maybe not much more, but more.

I'll do the math myself now. Capspace scenario.
Rose $18.8
Noah $12.7
Butler $2M
McDermott $2M
7 vet mins $3.5M

Total = $39

Caproom = $24M
So, yeah. If you can get Melo to take two million less to start you will have enough room to add another player.
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Re: Melo 17: Death or Glory 

Post#1786 » by TheStig » Sun Jul 6, 2014 5:09 pm

We don't have to lose Taj for nothing. You can trade Boozer, Snell, randolph, Dunleavy, taj and a pick to the Lakers for Gasol on a 3/20 deal and sign Melo starting at 20 mill.

Or you can amnesty boozer, trade taj, snell, randolph and MDJ somewhere, sign a 4 mill dollar big like hill or mcroberts, sign melo at 20 mill and sign someone else for the room exception to go with rose, noah, butler and dougie.
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Re: Melo 17: Death or Glory 

Post#1787 » by red222 » Sun Jul 6, 2014 5:10 pm

Image at big baby in a bulls uniform
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Re: Melo 17: Death or Glory 

Post#1788 » by WhiteM0nkey » Sun Jul 6, 2014 5:11 pm

where is the momentum meter?
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Re: Melo 17: Death or Glory 

Post#1789 » by erlim » Sun Jul 6, 2014 5:12 pm

Somebody make a separate big baby thread.
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Re: Melo 17: Death or Glory 

Post#1790 » by coldfish » Sun Jul 6, 2014 5:13 pm

Darius Miles Davis wrote:
I disagree. I think that team might just contend in the East.

And after reading Ralph's posts yesterday, I got the impression that the Bulls did propose Melo the non-Taj option. We all agree the sign and trade is better if you can pull it off.

One question to ask, though, is do we like this team better than the team as it is constituted right now? It's basically down Taj and some depth and with Melo. I say you have to take this team over what you have now. Only the issue of what to be done with Mirotic confuses the issue for me.

As to whether Melo likes enough, in the case that a sign and trade can't be done, well, that's up to him.


I hope we can just all agree that the Bulls probably ran the capspace scenario by Melo. I just understand why it wasn't their primary pitch because the other scenarios create ridiculously good teams.

Do we like that team better than what we have now? Yeah. However, if the Bulls could sign Stephenson for $10M to start and dump some stuff you would have a similar version to the S&T team.

Rose / DJ
Lance / Snell / Hinrich
Butler / McDermott
Gibson / Mirotic
Noah / Smith

I personally like that team better than the Melo for capspace route.
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Re: Melo 17: Death or Glory 

Post#1791 » by zmz72388 » Sun Jul 6, 2014 5:13 pm

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Re: Melo 17: Death or Glory 

Post#1792 » by AAU Teammate » Sun Jul 6, 2014 5:14 pm

He mustve really hated what was in the minibar
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Re: Melo 17: Death or Glory 

Post#1793 » by MalikJoakim24 » Sun Jul 6, 2014 5:16 pm

Hey guys just woke up so what happened

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Re: Melo 17: Death or Glory 

Post#1794 » by chifan1798 » Sun Jul 6, 2014 5:18 pm

zmz72388 wrote:Image

Lol, WTF?

And, Lol @ the lady in the background that was about to get up, like she was going to do something....or run :lol:
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Re: Melo 17: Death or Glory 

Post#1795 » by IrishBeatdown » Sun Jul 6, 2014 5:18 pm

MnM24 wrote:Hey guys just woke up so what happened

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Glen Davis to the bulls
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Re: Melo 17: Death or Glory 

Post#1796 » by Andi Obst » Sun Jul 6, 2014 5:18 pm

AAU Teammate wrote:He mustve really hated what was in the minibar


I guess he just hates the concept of a MINIbar.
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Re: Melo 17: Death or Glory 

Post#1797 » by MalikJoakim24 » Sun Jul 6, 2014 5:18 pm

IrishBeatdown wrote:
MnM24 wrote:Hey guys just woke up so what happened

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Glen Davis to the bulls

noooooooooooooooooo

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Re: Melo 17: Death or Glory 

Post#1798 » by spaceheat » Sun Jul 6, 2014 5:19 pm

RememberLu wrote:
pylb wrote:Has this been posted ?

Apparently Boozer put this up on his Instagram then deleted it:
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ugh, I hate cryptic stuff like this. It means nothing and it means anything you want it to


This looks like a fake to me. The typefaces are slightly different from what is on Instagram.
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Re: Melo 17: Death or Glory 

Post#1799 » by fleet » Sun Jul 6, 2014 5:19 pm

Big Baby. Thats hilarious. This off-season is a strikeout of epic proportions.
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Re: Melo 17: Death or Glory 

Post#1800 » by Shill » Sun Jul 6, 2014 5:20 pm

coldfish wrote:
Rose / DJ
Lance / Snell / Hinrich
Butler / McDermott
Gibson / Mirotic
Noah / Smith

I personally like that team better than the Melo for capspace route.



Yeah I'm down for this. That's a contender.

Lance still scares the sh*t out of me, though...
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