MeloDrama Part V
Moderators: j4remi, HerSports85, NoLayupRule, GONYK, Jeff Van Gully, dakomish23, Deeeez Knicks, mpharris36
Re: MeloDrama Part V
-
Obi-One
- Assistant Coach
- Posts: 3,756
- And1: 2,116
- Joined: Jun 21, 2013
-
Re: MeloDrama Part V
This diva is f*cking 5 teams over, just make a decision
Re: MeloDrama Part V
-
Jay10
- RealGM
- Posts: 38,959
- And1: 13,217
- Joined: Feb 01, 2010
- Location: New York
Re: MeloDrama Part V
[tweet]https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/485918426779901952[/tweet]
Re: MeloDrama Part V
-
Greenie
- RealGM
- Posts: 58,966
- And1: 30,697
- Joined: Feb 25, 2010
Re: MeloDrama Part V
Statrax wrote:This diva is f*cking 5 teams over, just make a decision
you mad or nah
Re: MeloDrama Part V
- god shammgod
- RealGM
- Posts: 138,592
- And1: 137,429
- Joined: Feb 18, 2006
Re: MeloDrama Part V
i never understand the personal stuff. if you don't want melo because you think you can't win with him fine. but all that other stuff is kind of weird. he's a bad person because he tried to get more money ? who doesn't want more money ?
Re: MeloDrama Part V
- Rasho Brezec
- RealGM
- Posts: 61,959
- And1: 18,587
- Joined: Mar 12, 2008
- Contact:
-
Re: MeloDrama Part V
god shammgod wrote:i never understand the personal stuff. if you don't want melo because you think you can't win with him fine. but all that other stuff is kind of weird. he's a bad person because he tried to get more money ? who doesn't want more money ?
He's a bad person because he does it at the expense of the team I root for.

Re: MeloDrama Part V
-
HarthorneWingo
- RealGM
- Posts: 97,546
- And1: 62,686
- Joined: May 16, 2005
Re: MeloDrama Part V
greenhughes wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:greenhughes wrote:Passing to Felton this year was playing to lose...
There is only one way to play basketball and that's "the right way."
LOL
OK
Inform the entire team instead of just one.
The right way is the way that wins. Two years ago Melo played right I guess...
Ousted by the Pacers in the second round playoffs in 6 games? What did we win?
Re: MeloDrama Part V
-
Greenie
- RealGM
- Posts: 58,966
- And1: 30,697
- Joined: Feb 25, 2010
Re: MeloDrama Part V
god shammgod wrote:i never understand the personal stuff. if you don't want melo because you think you can't win with him fine. but all that other stuff is kind of weird. he tried to get more money ? who doesn't want more money ?
They don't apparently.
That's why I hope Melo takes the full max just to piss them all off.
Melo can take a pay-cut but I bet you MSG won't drop ticket prices...
Re: MeloDrama Part V
- ezmoney707
- General Manager
- Posts: 8,687
- And1: 4,085
- Joined: Jun 21, 2006
-
Re: MeloDrama Part V
god shammgod wrote:i never understand the personal stuff. if you don't want melo because you think you can't win with him fine. but all that other stuff is kind of weird. he's a bad person because he tried to get more money ? who doesn't want more money ?
It's deep rooted jealousy man. Damn shame. I'm sure as hell ain't turning down extra money from my job, nor would anyone else on this board.
Re: MeloDrama Part V
- god shammgod
- RealGM
- Posts: 138,592
- And1: 137,429
- Joined: Feb 18, 2006
Re: MeloDrama Part V
Rasho Brezec wrote:god shammgod wrote:i never understand the personal stuff. if you don't want melo because you think you can't win with him fine. but all that other stuff is kind of weird. he's a bad person because he tried to get more money ? who doesn't want more money ?
He's a bad person because he does it at the expense of the team I root for.
that's you being selfish as well then
Re: MeloDrama Part V
- Red Vines
- RealGM
- Posts: 34,927
- And1: 10,271
- Joined: Jun 26, 2005
-
Re: MeloDrama Part V
It's a bad move to say you'll take less money to help your team and not follow through. Period.
Re: MeloDrama Part V
-
Greenie
- RealGM
- Posts: 58,966
- And1: 30,697
- Joined: Feb 25, 2010
Re: MeloDrama Part V
HarthorneWingo wrote:greenhughes wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:
There is only one way to play basketball and that's "the right way."
LOL
OK
Inform the entire team instead of just one.
The right way is the way that wins. Two years ago Melo played right I guess...
Ousted by the Pacers in the second round playoffs in 5 games? What did we win?
For the first time in how long?
Rome wasn't built in a day unless you get all your buddies together and go to one team for the same price at the same time...
Again, none of this matters to you because you hate Melo and that's been clear since your boy Lin was given the pink slip.
Re: MeloDrama Part V
- nyjetsknicks420
- Sixth Man
- Posts: 1,829
- And1: 665
- Joined: Nov 10, 2013
-
Re: MeloDrama Part V
Jay10 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/485918426779901952[/tweet]
You know what that means Melo to Lakers this year, Love to Lakers next year.
Re: MeloDrama Part V
- wakkahman
- Senior
- Posts: 687
- And1: 230
- Joined: Jun 28, 2003
Re: MeloDrama Part V
HarthorneWingo wrote:greenhughes wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:
There is only one way to play basketball and that's "the right way."
LOL
OK
Inform the entire team instead of just one.
The right way is the way that wins. Two years ago Melo played right I guess...
Ousted by the Pacers in the second round playoffs in 6 games? What did we win?
Not Carmelo's fault, Amare came back for that series and the knicks turned back into a sub .500 team

Re: MeloDrama Part V
-
blumatic
- Assistant Coach
- Posts: 4,120
- And1: 790
- Joined: Dec 03, 2011
Re: MeloDrama Part V
Statrax wrote:This diva is f*cking 5 teams over, just make a decision
It's his life. F*** the teams.
I'm a Knicks but moving to another city is a big deal. And it's the holiday weekend.
Re: MeloDrama Part V
-
Greenie
- RealGM
- Posts: 58,966
- And1: 30,697
- Joined: Feb 25, 2010
Re: MeloDrama Part V
god shammgod wrote:Rasho Brezec wrote:god shammgod wrote:i never understand the personal stuff. if you don't want melo because you think you can't win with him fine. but all that other stuff is kind of weird. he's a bad person because he tried to get more money ? who doesn't want more money ?
He's a bad person because he does it at the expense of the team I root for.
that's you being selfish as well then
Re: MeloDrama Part V
-
HarthorneWingo
- RealGM
- Posts: 97,546
- And1: 62,686
- Joined: May 16, 2005
Re: MeloDrama Part V
god shammgod wrote:i never understand the personal stuff. if you don't want melo because you think you can't win with him fine. but all that other stuff is kind of weird. he's a bad person because he tried to get more money ? who doesn't want more money ?
He's going to makes over $100m over the next 5 years plus endorsements. He's making more money than a muthafuqer.
Re: MeloDrama Part V
-
Greenie
- RealGM
- Posts: 58,966
- And1: 30,697
- Joined: Feb 25, 2010
Re: MeloDrama Part V
Red Vines wrote:It's a bad move to say you'll take less money to help your team and not follow through. Period.
It's a bad move to have the President speak on that as well. Period.
Re: MeloDrama Part V
-
Thugger HBC
- Retired Mod

- Posts: 49,679
- And1: 18,760
- Joined: Jan 14, 2011
- Location: Defense+efficient offense=titles...what do you have?
-
Re: MeloDrama Part V
David Blaine wrote:Thugger HBC wrote:David Blaine wrote:Teams aren't moving heaven and earth because they know that it is very unlikely that Melo will sign with them in the first place. If Melo committed 100% to a team they would do everything in their power to make room.
I'm specifically talking about the teams he's interested in and actually have heard presentations from. the second point really no one knows, speculation at best.David Blaine wrote:The CBA doesn't dictate Melo's value. Melo's true value is probably over the max, but the amount of money he can receive is limited the CBA. Lakers offered him the much they could and probably would have offered him more if they could.
I said "market". Market is irrelevant. The price a team is willing and/or can pay is CBA influenced and has 100% determined that. 129 mil isnt Melo's market...the CBA ensured that.David Blaine wrote:Also how do you know Phil made a mistake and that he believes that he can actually build a team with Melo making the max?
Offering the max contradicts the majority of what Phil has said from team building standpoint.
You said it yourself. "Market Value" what teams are willing to pay for Melo, just because there is a limiting factor (CBA) that prevents teams from going over the limit doesn't mean he isn't worth more than that. This is basic Economics
Also Phil has literally just been saying what knicks fans want to hear. He knows he needs Melo for his system to work and is worried about what will happen if Melo leaves. Since if he leaves Phil's tenure here is doomed to fail.
i really dont think you understand, and lets use two examples to make it clearer from the same team....
Chicago 2010 was one of leBron's choices of interview......they made room to accept him prior to the meeting.
Melo 2014 Chicago was one of Melo choices of interview.....they didnt make room to come anywhere near a fair offer, so is melo's market value 15 mil to Chicago? thats why market is a term that has no place.
There's even reports that Dallas has no intention to offer any max deals....another Melo interviewer.
Do you honestly believe over half of Lebrons choices would low ball him like this? teams arent drooling over Melo at a max price.
As far as Phil goes he's actually said the opposite of fan belief, but up until the max contract offer his message has been consistent.....his goal is to build a team that can compete with or without Melo.
But even with the offer Phil is still putting it in melo's court to take less to look as a team player, basically stating taking max counters the process.
R. I. P. Mamba 8/23/78 - 1/26/20
Gone, but will never be forgotten
Gone, but will never be forgotten
Re: MeloDrama Part V
- Red Vines
- RealGM
- Posts: 34,927
- And1: 10,271
- Joined: Jun 26, 2005
-
Re: MeloDrama Part V
"I told people all the time, always say, if it takes me taking a pay cut, I’ll be the first one on Mr. [James] Dolan’s steps saying: 'Take my money and let’s build something strong over here.'"
I told people all the time.
I told people all the time.
Re: MeloDrama Part V
-
blumatic
- Assistant Coach
- Posts: 4,120
- And1: 790
- Joined: Dec 03, 2011
Re: MeloDrama Part V
Red Vines wrote:It's a bad move to say you'll take less money to help your team and not follow through. Period.
Yup it is. But imagine he he said he wouldn't take less money from the start. Still a bad move.










