ImageImageImageImageImage

MeloDrama Part V

Moderators: j4remi, NoLayupRule, HerSports85, GONYK, Jeff Van Gully, dakomish23, Deeeez Knicks, mpharris36

User avatar
Fury
RealGM
Posts: 24,638
And1: 18,526
Joined: Mar 07, 2007
       

Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1821 » by Fury » Mon Jul 7, 2014 6:17 am

I don't care if Melo signs the Max Payne as long as it decreases the 2nd year.
WinCity
Banned User
Posts: 8,488
And1: 1,688
Joined: Mar 18, 2011

Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1822 » by WinCity » Mon Jul 7, 2014 6:18 am

Thugger HBC wrote:
2010 wrote:Some of you are missing my point. I'm saying Chicago is Melo's first choice. But if Phil calls his bluff and rebuffs a sign & trade, he will go to the Lakers.

CAA leaking this "Melo has Lakers climbing up the ladder in a 3-team race" is all you need to know. Why else would they strategically plant that info out there? Why would Melo be working out with Kobe in LA? Why is Melo taking his time making a decision?

Phil has already offered him the max. If he wanted to be here the ink would be dry already and the Lakers leak would have never been made public. Melo is biding time here. And he's doing that to see if he can land in Chicago!

While the theory makes sense, some of it I cant see becoming reality.

If Chicago is melo first choice, thats where he'll be one way or another, now that he is a free agent unless the Bulls say enough is enough.

Imo melo is in LA because thats where he is every year around this time.

Melo's m.o. has always been max dollars....no irony that 2 of the 3 reported teams with a chance offered it.

The Bulls dont seem to be even in that mix as they've yet to clear the money needed, which they did the last time big free agents were available in 2010....melo being in that mix back then as well.



FWIW a trusted long time poster with legit contacts in the org. noted the Bulls gave Melo 2 options:

-team with Taj, less money (presumably about 15.8 mil starting salary)
-team without Taj starting salary 22 mil (his 4 year max)

Neither option was contingent on a NY sign and trade. It seems the FO lined up deals with other teams to clear the space. So yeah his theory is plausible and the sign and trade is the best option to get Melo his true max 5 yr salary, its not he only option. The fact that what little chatter we have heard is not Bulls focused leads me to believe 2010 is wrong and we aren't his preferred landing spot.
Moose
Analyst
Posts: 3,733
And1: 1,676
Joined: Feb 20, 2002

Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1823 » by Moose » Mon Jul 7, 2014 6:20 am

GONYK wrote:
Moose wrote:
GONYK wrote:
The point was not missed. I'm saying let him walk to the Lakers. He ends up the biggest loser in that scenario and it is better to have him out West.

If he's just using LA and doesn't actually really want to be there, it is an empty threat.



I'd send him off to Chicago if it meant getting a ton of assets and ridding ourselves of JR's contract.

Not going to be stubborn.


What assets?



3 firsts at the very least. Perhaps a second rounder or two. Mirotic. MCD. And they take back JR's contract. We would take Boozer and he can stat stuff and maybe we can even deal him at the deadline for a pick to someone desperate.

I rather do that than end with nothing.
Thugger HBC
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 49,679
And1: 18,760
Joined: Jan 14, 2011
Location: Defense+efficient offense=titles...what do you have?
       

Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1824 » by Thugger HBC » Mon Jul 7, 2014 6:25 am

Moose wrote:
GONYK wrote:
Moose wrote:

I'd send him off to Chicago if it meant getting a ton of assets and ridding ourselves of JR's contract.

Not going to be stubborn.


What assets?



3 firsts at the very least. Perhaps a second rounder or two. Mirotic. MCD. And they take back JR's contract. We would take Boozer and he can stat stuff and maybe we can even deal him at the deadline for a pick to someone desperate.

I rather do that than end with nothing.


Low picks aren't much and unknowns aren't either. And nobody in their right mind trades for an amnesty candidate.

Sent from my SGH M-919 using RealGM Forums mobile app
R. I. P. Mamba 8/23/78 - 1/26/20

Gone, but will never be forgotten
Moose
Analyst
Posts: 3,733
And1: 1,676
Joined: Feb 20, 2002

Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1825 » by Moose » Mon Jul 7, 2014 6:37 am

Thugger HBC wrote:
Moose wrote:
GONYK wrote:
What assets?



3 firsts at the very least. Perhaps a second rounder or two. Mirotic. MCD. And they take back JR's contract. We would take Boozer and he can stat stuff and maybe we can even deal him at the deadline for a pick to someone desperate.

I rather do that than end with nothing.


Low picks aren't much and unknowns aren't either. And nobody in their right mind trades for an amnesty candidate.

Sent from my SGH M-919 using RealGM Forums mobile app


Could have sworn we traded a pick for Bargs. ..an amnesty candidate.

If you want to keep acting like assets don't matter, then why do you and everyone else get bent out of shape when we trade them away?
User avatar
PrecociousNeoph
Head Coach
Posts: 6,652
And1: 377
Joined: May 31, 2007
Location: Gentleman D'Antoni
       

Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1826 » by PrecociousNeoph » Mon Jul 7, 2014 6:51 am

even if this isn't bogus i'd be surprised if any of this is different than every other offseason
“Bye, Felicia.”
User avatar
PornDoc
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,613
And1: 465
Joined: Jan 15, 2004
Location: Fck the Nets
     

Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1827 » by PornDoc » Mon Jul 7, 2014 7:38 am

So sick of this ****.
Mr_Perfect
Head Coach
Posts: 6,127
And1: 2,931
Joined: May 01, 2012

Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1828 » by Mr_Perfect » Mon Jul 7, 2014 7:39 am

Moose wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:
Moose wrote:

3 firsts at the very least. Perhaps a second rounder or two. Mirotic. MCD. And they take back JR's contract. We would take Boozer and he can stat stuff and maybe we can even deal him at the deadline for a pick to someone desperate.

I rather do that than end with nothing.


Low picks aren't much and unknowns aren't either. And nobody in their right mind trades for an amnesty candidate.

Sent from my SGH M-919 using RealGM Forums mobile app


Could have sworn we traded a pick for Bargs. ..an amnesty candidate.

If you want to keep acting like assets don't matter, then why do you and everyone else get bent out of shape when we trade them away?


Don't worry, not everyone undervalues assets here.
User avatar
KnicksGadfly
RealGM
Posts: 17,663
And1: 19,077
Joined: Jul 29, 2007
   

Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1829 » by KnicksGadfly » Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:02 am

Thugger HBC wrote:
alwaysaknick wrote:If melo finally chooses to be with the Knicks, will he be welcomed?

Absolutely, dont let the realgm knicks board cloud any view. This is NOT the pulse of the Knicks fanbase.


It actually is representative of the Knicks fan base. It's just that some voices ring louder than others. The ones who dissent and dissent radically receive more attention. I fully expect the majority of this board to support Melo if he resigns, and to hate him with a passion if he leaves. Anyway, I think the hate Melo receives here on this board is much less than the hate that Jamal Crawford received on this board a while back. That shows me that there are much further levels that this board can go to, but for the most part, most people want him back.
User avatar
FutureKnicksGM
Head Coach
Posts: 6,933
And1: 1,505
Joined: Sep 26, 2005
 

Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1830 » by FutureKnicksGM » Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:12 am

SelbyCobra wrote:
TheBigBoss wrote:I now hope Phil specifically demands his soft ass


Image


I feel like this had potential if it wasn't in a MeloDrama thread.
Oscirus
RealGM
Posts: 13,529
And1: 9,531
Joined: Dec 09, 2011
       

Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1831 » by Oscirus » Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:12 am

Moose wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:
Moose wrote:

3 firsts at the very least. Perhaps a second rounder or two. Mirotic. MCD. And they take back JR's contract. We would take Boozer and he can stat stuff and maybe we can even deal him at the deadline for a pick to someone desperate.

I rather do that than end with nothing.


Low picks aren't much and unknowns aren't either. And nobody in their right mind trades for an amnesty candidate.

Sent from my SGH M-919 using RealGM Forums mobile app


Could have sworn we traded a pick for Bargs. ..an amnesty candidate.

If you want to keep acting like assets don't matter, then why do you and everyone else get bent out of shape when we trade them away?


Could have sworn that Grunfeld's not our gm anymore. So to make it clear, yes, trading first round picks for amnesty candidates is a bad thing. Is that what you were looking for?
Jimmit79 wrote:At this point I want RJ to get paid
User avatar
fresko024
Veteran
Posts: 2,685
And1: 459
Joined: Jan 01, 2011
Location: Jersey
       

Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1832 » by fresko024 » Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:33 am

Stephen A reported that if Bosh goes to Houston the Melo and Lebron will sign in Miami
Romans 8:1-4
User avatar
alwaysaknick
Pro Prospect
Posts: 874
And1: 423
Joined: Sep 12, 2013
 

Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1833 » by alwaysaknick » Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:47 am

Stephen A. Smith on ESPN: If Chris Bosh signs with the Houston Rockets, the HEAT are going to try to replace him with Carmelo Anthony.
via SportsCenter

Read more at http://www.basketballinsiders.com/heat- ... XrkFqQF.99
User avatar
FutureKnicksGM
Head Coach
Posts: 6,933
And1: 1,505
Joined: Sep 26, 2005
 

Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1834 » by FutureKnicksGM » Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:49 am

Dengness9 wrote:I think he stays in NYC for sure still honestly.

I also think Melo is hung up knowing the Knicks won't be able to contend next year. He's probably willing to trust Phil w/ building this team quickly, especially in the 2015 summer. I just think he is having a lot of second thoughts about going through another possibly tough year next season.

When this is all over, whatever he does, I will be so thankful. I know how much of a toll this takes on me as a Bulls fan. I cant imagine how hard it is on most of you since it's a Knicks player.


Image
User avatar
Dengness9
Senior
Posts: 638
And1: 237
Joined: May 08, 2011
       

Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1835 » by Dengness9 » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:03 am

FutureKnicksGM wrote:
Dengness9 wrote:I think he stays in NYC for sure still honestly.

I also think Melo is hung up knowing the Knicks won't be able to contend next year. He's probably willing to trust Phil w/ building this team quickly, especially in the 2015 summer. I just think he is having a lot of second thoughts about going through another possibly tough year next season.

When this is all over, whatever he does, I will be so thankful. I know how much of a toll this takes on me as a Bulls fan. I cant imagine how hard it is on most of you since it's a Knicks player.


Image


Image
I hate the Chicago Bulls. I miss Derrick, Jo, Taj, Jimmy, Lu, BG, Kirk, Noc….I’ll stop there.
WindyCityBorn
RealGM
Posts: 22,145
And1: 11,827
Joined: Jun 26, 2014
     

Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1836 » by WindyCityBorn » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:07 am

PornDoc wrote:So sick of this ****.


A few more hours...as a Bulls fan I'm sick of it too. Our forum has gone insane. I'll be happy to watch a Bulls team with our two rookies and a healthy Rose. Not gonna let something I have no control wind me up like that.
User avatar
MrProb
Analyst
Posts: 3,121
And1: 1,419
Joined: Apr 21, 2011
     

Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1837 » by MrProb » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:08 am

Some of you guys could easily replace Broussard, "I heard what Melo decision will be/I know what he's thinking and which team he uses as a leverage, multiple sausage"
Image
Thugger HBC
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 49,679
And1: 18,760
Joined: Jan 14, 2011
Location: Defense+efficient offense=titles...what do you have?
       

Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1838 » by Thugger HBC » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:29 am

Moose wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:
Moose wrote:

3 firsts at the very least. Perhaps a second rounder or two. Mirotic. MCD. And they take back JR's contract. We would take Boozer and he can stat stuff and maybe we can even deal him at the deadline for a pick to someone desperate.

I rather do that than end with nothing.


Low picks aren't much and unknowns aren't either. And nobody in their right mind trades for an amnesty candidate.

Sent from my SGH M-919 using RealGM Forums mobile app


Could have sworn we traded a pick for Bargs. ..an amnesty candidate.

If you want to keep acting like assets don't matter, then why do you and everyone else get bent out of shape when we trade them away?

read my post again. i'm quite aware what we did, and our gm got fired for it.

it isnt whether they are assets....it's a garbage trade.

And if you really know my posting especially on the Bargs trade, I never complained about the picks, I merely was ticked we traded period for him AND the fact he was to be amnestied. the picks were sub material at best.

I didnt want bargs for free....he's the ultimate loser.
R. I. P. Mamba 8/23/78 - 1/26/20

Gone, but will never be forgotten
User avatar
vallen
RealGM
Posts: 10,912
And1: 3,168
Joined: Jan 31, 2005
       

Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1839 » by vallen » Mon Jul 7, 2014 10:44 am

Zzzzzzzzzzzz

Hurry the F up you drama queen...
There's something about an underdog that really inspires the unexceptional.
delvec19
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,334
And1: 1,973
Joined: Jun 17, 2008
Location: NJ
       

Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1840 » by delvec19 » Mon Jul 7, 2014 11:24 am

Welp, at least we have another day at work full of F5ing.

Return to New York Knicks