Melo Thread 19: It's Spidey Austin..it was Spidey all along.

[ingvald]

So if Melo isn't even eligible for a no-trade, did SAS just make that up? Is he making up this entire story? Would love to see someone ask SAS about that?

I can't believe I'm defending SAS but he said that Melo WANTS a no-trade. That may be accurate. Of course leaving out the fact that it isn't possible is bad on his part. Then again, the lack of concrete, informed discussion from anyone on ESPN shouldn't be a shocker to anyone.

Why would it even be a part of Melo's decision making if it isn't possible?

I don't know. I just meant that SAS parsed his words enough that what he said was technically possible. Don't know if you ever saw the movie "How to Get Ahead in Advertising"-

It may contain a pork pie...

[NecessaryEvil]

SAS is the mouthpiece for the 03' draft alum,

Miami or NY

[Rerisen]

Aggrey Sam was on 670 the Score and didn't sound too hopeful. Basically said that he's always thought Melo was going back to New York and based on conversations he's had and gut feeling that he thinks that's where it will end up. Said L.A. is an intriguing possibility, and makes sense in a few ways (namely LaLa's career and the fact that they live there in the offseason). Said plan B will be Mirotic and whatever mid-level free agents are left. Said Boozer's camp was told there was a high probability for a trade or amnesty this offseason.

All in all, his opinion was this was Melo to Chicago was unlikely. Said for Melo this was most likely his way of surveying the landscape to see what was out there, but in the end it all comes back to New York and getting the max there.

I still can't figure out why the FO said they were 'increasingly confident' way back during the season, if they knew Melo was going to have to risk a big paycut to come.

They supposedly presented a "No Taj" option to him, but then bring Taj to the meeting, pretty much forcing Melo to kick a guy that tried to recruit him personally, off the team, and take his place if he wants close to his max. And with Taj gone anyway, the team looks a lot less attractive.

[BigUps]

There isn't a local or national media guy saying we're still in this. That's not good. Where there's smoke there's typically fire. We're likely out of it as of now.

[weneeda2guard]

At the end of the day it sound like we out of the race because we don't have enough money

And obviously we not willing to part with taj to clear the money

I wouldn't part with taj without the guarantee either

Might be time to move on

[WinCity]

At this point I am very very eager to move on but I can't really do that until the Bulls do that :'(

Melo is either going to MIA if Bosh leaves

Going to LA so his talentless, fat wife can mooch an acting career off his basketball career

Or staying in NY with his fat old contract

[micromonkey]

Well put it this way, Stephen A Smith and Broushard are basically NY guys. Everything that comes out of their mouth always comes from a NY place.

Alot of what they say, has been their personal opinion rather than "source".

Even though they maybe right, its still just opinion.

This is pretty much it.
Someone is going to come out with "Cred" for the next few years like SAS did--for calling the Melo situation correctly--whether they know diddly.

Guys are casting a wide net to try and cover their bases so they can say "I told you so".

[Magilla_Gorilla]

So if Melo isn't even eligible for a no-trade, did SAS just make that up? Is he making up this entire story? Would love to see someone ask SAS about that?

Melo has been on the team for four seasons (11,12,13,14) but not full seasons so I'm not sure he qualifies but most NBA rules call any part of a year a year.


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If thats the case - he's going back to NY - they're the only team he can even negotiate a no-trade. I can see why Phil wouldn't want to do that.

Would explain why it hasn't been finalized yet.

[Rerisen]

There isn't a local or national media guy saying we're still in this. That's not good. Where there's smoke there's typically fire. We're likely out of it as of now.

Someone is being played for a fool. Not sure who yet. But the entire media treats the Bulls as not even having made a serious offer.

[Blount]

Signing with LA would contradict his "winning" statement even more than resigning with the Knicks.

[blumeany]

Aggrey Sam was on 670 the Score and didn't sound too hopeful. Basically said that he's always thought Melo was going back to New York and based on conversations he's had and gut feeling that he thinks that's where it will end up. Said L.A. is an intriguing possibility, and makes sense in a few ways (namely LaLa's career and the fact that they live there in the offseason). Said plan B will be Mirotic and whatever mid-level free agents are left. Said Boozer's camp was told there was a high probability for a trade or amnesty this offseason.

All in all, his opinion was this was Melo to Chicago was unlikely. Said for Melo this was most likely his way of surveying the landscape to see what was out there, but in the end it all comes back to New York and getting the max there.

I still can't figure out why the FO said they were 'increasingly confident' way back during the season, if they knew Melo was going to have to risk a big paycut to come.

They supposedly presented a "No Taj" option to him, but then bring Taj to the meeting, pretty much forcing Melo to kick a guy that tried to recruit him personally, off the team, and take his place if he wants close to his max. And with Taj gone anyway, the team looks a lot less attractive.

Who knows. It's hard to say who's screwed up what until we see the end of this story playing out. Considering Melo is willing to take this tour to possibly force New York's hand and cause other teams to move assets in the process tells me that Melo probably wouldn't lose too much sleep if the Bulls had to move Taj for him to come there. I think the Bulls brought Taj in to sell the idea of Melo taking less.

[red222]

Someone is being played for a fool. Not sure who yet. But the entire media treats the Bulls as not even having made a serious offer.

The whole 9 hours would be an exercise in ineptitude if we didn't detail his options.

[coldfish]

There isn't a local or national media guy saying we're still in this. That's not good. Where there's smoke there's typically fire. We're likely out of it as of now.

Yeah, either this is the biggest smokescreen of all time or the Bulls are totally out of it.

At one point, the Bulls were definitely in it. I wonder what happened. Taj? Rose? Something front office did? Lala? $130M? Lebron? I'm sure we will spend the next 10 to 20 years discussing it.

I really hope this is the last time for the Bulls. Give up on this flexibility rollercoaster to nowhere.

[jc23]

ha, Chicago and knick boards both tired of this ****.

[blumeany]

There isn't a local or national media guy saying we're still in this. That's not good. Where there's smoke there's typically fire. We're likely out of it as of now.

On the flip-side, I would have expected some signs of the Bulls moving on, which we haven't seen yet either.

[Rerisen]

I think the Bulls brought Taj in to sell the idea of Melo taking less.

50m less? Was that ever realistic.

We better have had a barebones + Taj middle plan as well to be serious, which would start him around 17 I believe.

The 15 number was never credible. Because we weren't forming the Heatles Superteam here, to be worth that sacrifice, and even when those guys took the hit, it wasn't nearly so much to them as what Melo would be leaving on the table.

Their paycut was just about cancelled altogether by Florida's lack of taxes.

[SCBull]

Whelp. Nothing new but the bulls being dissed I guess by SAS. Glad I'm working today. Hope it's all over today

[MAQ]

So if Melo isn't even eligible for a no-trade, did SAS just make that up? Is he making up this entire story? Would love to see someone ask SAS about that?

Melo has been on the team for four seasons (11,12,13,14) but not full seasons so I'm not sure he qualifies but most NBA rules call any part of a year a year.


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If thats the case - he's going back to NY - they're the only team he can even negotiate a no-trade. I can see why Phil wouldn't want to do that.

Would explain why it hasn't been finalized yet.

That could explain the pause on NY's behalf as well, and why the situation may still be fluid.

[SteelerSpartan]

If what SAS has been sppewing is true....then Melo is going to have to go into the same slime bucket as LeDouche for me. We never had a chance to begin with.....and Thibs should have someone break Leon Roses legs for playing him

[MAQ]

There isn't a local or national media guy saying we're still in this. That's not good. Where there's smoke there's typically fire. We're likely out of it as of now.

On the flip-side, I would have expected some signs of the Bulls moving on, which we haven't seen yet either.

I don't agree that there aren't signs of the Bulls moving on either. I was able to believe Melo and Pau were related, but names like Marion, Stephenson, trying to get a deal inked up with Mirotic...That seems like moving on to me.