The following post from riddit.com pretty much summarized Jeremy Lin in Rockets:
Jeremy Lin's many detractors seem so invested in convincing others that his play was just a "flash in the pan." He may not reach that level of statistical output again (almost none do), but he still has all-star type "potential," and should certainly be a starter in this league.
NBA media and fans love to minimize his Linsanity run as "just 7 games," but Lin still averaged 18 and 8 for the 25 games he started, so it wasn't like he just disappeared once Miami "figured him out."
Most are comfortable with the notion that his true worth is as a "backup/serviceable PG," because that's how he's portrayed in Houston and in the media. Those who actually followed Lin's career though realize his diminished numbers/perceived ability is due mostly to his misuse by McHale/Rockets.
He was promised to be a focal part and primary facilitator of a P&R heavy Rockets offense. Instead, Lin's spent the last 2yrs playing off-ball and out of position, on a team that utilized the P&R one of the least in the league. Add this to the fact that he only gets 9 FGA's a game, with had one of the lowest usage rates of any
PG in the league. McHale also regularly limited Lin's minutes (regardless of how well we was playing), and staggered them into 2-4 mins stretches, effectively killing any rhythm he developed. People
rarely take these circumstances into account when assessing Lin's current output - no traditional PG would do well with these limitations.
Regardless of how he's depicted, he's actually played very well given the circumstances. His run with the Knicks wasn't an aberration. Lin's had huge games since then, when the Rockets actually allowed him the opportunity to manage the ball and put up shots - and most important, the TEAM usually won.
Lin averaged 18 & 7 (per 36) during the 2nd half of 2012-2013 with Rockets, after struggling the 1st half due to returning from torn meniscus surgery.
Lin averages 22 & 7 when Harden doesn't play (i.e. when his usage rate, FGA's, touches, and responsibility increases).
Lin had another 38 & 7 game vs. Spurs without Harden, after which McHale publicly chastised Lin for not using a screen, essentially blaming him for the OT loss.
Lin had 31 vs. Raptors and 34 & 12 vs. Sixers during his hot run to start this past season, before McHale started limiting/staggeringhis mins again.
Lin had 29 & 7 vs. OKC. The ONLY game the current Rockets have won against them with Westbrook in the lineup, was the one time they allowed Lin to control the ball - not a coincidence.
Lin had a triple-double off the bench this season - one of just a few players in history that did this in under 30 minutes.
Most media and fans just look at per game statistics, without recognizing the various factors that affect this - mainly opportunity/involvement. Despite being massively underused, Lin has actually improved, posting career highs in FG%, 3FG%, FT%, TS%, while decreasing his TO's every year.
A few facts:
Despite his outside shooting being one of his perceived weaknesses, Lin shot the same 36% from 3pt as "elite shooter" James Harden.
Lin was Top 20 in spot up shooting, despite that formerly being a weakness (as it is for most traditional all-handling PG's).
Despite being perceived as a poor defender, advanced stats (e.g. DefRtg, Defensive PPP, Opponent FG%) all show Lin being on par or better than the "All NBA 2nd team" Beverley who was said to replace Lin as starter due to his "better" defense.
Lin remains an elite penetrator in this league, being top 15 in drives per game despite only playing 29 minutes a game. He also had the 6th highest TS% of all PG's off of drives.
Lin is still measured as one of the top ball-handlers in the P&R, despite McHale/Rockets inexplicably underusing it withHoward/Harden also being elite in this area.
Lin was the most efficient and clutch scorer on the Rockets this season from 2FG and 3FG. He also lead the team in 2FG clutch scoring last season.
Ok, sorry for the long post. Not saying that Lin is destined to be all allstar or superstar or anything like that. Just saying he's been woefully mis/underused in Houston, and that there's enough objective evidence to suggest the guy's still got much more talent/potential then most are willing to acknowledge. There's just too much misinformation out there about Lin from people who appear quite committed to convincing others he's a scrub/role player at best.
TL; DR - Despite public perception and surface stats, there's enough evidence to suggest Jeremy Lin still has all-star type potential. Linsanity was not a "fluke."
http://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/29yq0u/can_lin_return_to_his_linsanity_self_ever_again/ciqffhb
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hans0r wrote:Last postseason he worked mostly on improving his shooting and his left hand, which were his most talked about weaknesses, and he definetely improved in that regard. I think it's unrealistic to expect him to improve more in just one postseason. Especially his lateral quickness. That's not something you can gain in just a few months.
i agree, it's going to take time.
he had a fg% above 50% and a 3-pt% close to 40% to start the season. he was doing so well early on but then his averages dropped.
i think his playstyle and training work against him during a long season with 82 games. it can wear him out faster by putting so much emphasis on straight-line drives to the basket. he gets bumped to the floor and then looks shockingly at the referee because there wasn't a call. other times lin looks lazy and slow when he gasses out.
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brownsmith89 wrote:hans0r wrote:Last postseason he worked mostly on improving his shooting and his left hand, which were his most talked about weaknesses, and he definetely improved in that regard. I think it's unrealistic to expect him to improve more in just one postseason. Especially his lateral quickness. That's not something you can gain in just a few months.
i agree, it's going to take time.
he had a fg% above 50% and a 3-pt% close to 40% to start the season. he was doing so well early on but then his averages dropped.
i think his playstyle and training work against him during a long season with 82 games. it can wear him out faster by putting so much emphasis on straight-line drives to the basket. he gets bumped to the floor and then looks shockingly at the referee because there wasn't a call. other times lin looks lazy and slow when he gasses out.
I think what you were trying to say is Lin needs to flop more. Don't worry, Rockets has one of the best flopper in business. I have no doubt Lin will pick up a few techniques before he left Houston.
Can't wait for the trade to happens. Go to Philly and unite with Shumpert.
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tomato123 wrote:The following post from riddit.com pretty much summarized Jeremy Lin in Rockets:
Jeremy Lin's many detractors seem so invested in convincing others that his play was just a "flash in the pan." He may not reach that level of statistical output again (almost none do), but he still has all-star type "potential," and should certainly be a starter in this league.
NBA media and fans love to minimize his Linsanity run as "just 7 games," but Lin still averaged 18 and 8 for the 25 games he started, so it wasn't like he just disappeared once Miami "figured him out."
Most are comfortable with the notion that his true worth is as a "backup/serviceable PG," because that's how he's portrayed in Houston and in the media. Those who actually followed Lin's career though realize his diminished numbers/perceived ability is due mostly to his misuse by McHale/Rockets.
He was promised to be a focal part and primary facilitator of a P&R heavy Rockets offense. Instead, Lin's spent the last 2yrs playing off-ball and out of position, on a team that utilized the P&R one of the least in the league. Add this to the fact that he only gets 9 FGA's a game, with had one of the lowest usage rates of any
PG in the league. McHale also regularly limited Lin's minutes (regardless of how well we was playing), and staggered them into 2-4 mins stretches, effectively killing any rhythm he developed. People
rarely take these circumstances into account when assessing Lin's current output - no traditional PG would do well with these limitations.
Regardless of how he's depicted, he's actually played very well given the circumstances. His run with the Knicks wasn't an aberration. Lin's had huge games since then, when the Rockets actually allowed him the opportunity to manage the ball and put up shots - and most important, the TEAM usually won.
Lin averaged 18 & 7 (per 36) during the 2nd half of 2012-2013 with Rockets, after struggling the 1st half due to returning from torn meniscus surgery.
Lin averages 22 & 7 when Harden doesn't play (i.e. when his usage rate, FGA's, touches, and responsibility increases).
Lin had another 38 & 7 game vs. Spurs without Harden, after which McHale publicly chastised Lin for not using a screen, essentially blaming him for the OT loss.
Lin had 31 vs. Raptors and 34 & 12 vs. Sixers during his hot run to start this past season, before McHale started limiting/staggeringhis mins again.
Lin had 29 & 7 vs. OKC. The ONLY game the current Rockets have won against them with Westbrook in the lineup, was the one time they allowed Lin to control the ball - not a coincidence.
Lin had a triple-double off the bench this season - one of just a few players in history that did this in under 30 minutes.
Most media and fans just look at per game statistics, without recognizing the various factors that affect this - mainly opportunity/involvement. Despite being massively underused, Lin has actually improved, posting career highs in FG%, 3FG%, FT%, TS%, while decreasing his TO's every year.
A few facts:
Despite his outside shooting being one of his perceived weaknesses, Lin shot the same 36% from 3pt as "elite shooter" James Harden.
Lin was Top 20 in spot up shooting, despite that formerly being a weakness (as it is for most traditional all-handling PG's).
Despite being perceived as a poor defender, advanced stats (e.g. DefRtg, Defensive PPP, Opponent FG%) all show Lin being on par or better than the "All NBA 2nd team" Beverley who was said to replace Lin as starter due to his "better" defense.
Lin remains an elite penetrator in this league, being top 15 in drives per game despite only playing 29 minutes a game. He also had the 6th highest TS% of all PG's off of drives.
Lin is still measured as one of the top ball-handlers in the P&R, despite McHale/Rockets inexplicably underusing it withHoward/Harden also being elite in this area.
Lin was the most efficient and clutch scorer on the Rockets this season from 2FG and 3FG. He also lead the team in 2FG clutch scoring last season.
Ok, sorry for the long post. Not saying that Lin is destined to be all allstar or superstar or anything like that. Just saying he's been woefully mis/underused in Houston, and that there's enough objective evidence to suggest the guy's still got much more talent/potential then most are willing to acknowledge. There's just too much misinformation out there about Lin from people who appear quite committed to convincing others he's a scrub/role player at best.
TL; DR - Despite public perception and surface stats, there's enough evidence to suggest Jeremy Lin still has all-star type potential. Linsanity was not a "fluke."
http://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/29yq0u/can_lin_return_to_his_linsanity_self_ever_again/ciqffhb
I just posted this a page ago, don't you guys read???
viewtopic.php?p=40432101#p40432101
* Since 1985, Jeremy Lin became one of 15 players to have scored at least 20 points, seven assists and a steal for six games in a row, including 136 points in 5 starts beating out Iverson, Jordan and O'Neal 
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I like Lin's game but he does appear to be breaking down .... his game is very physical and he is constantly crashing into bigs...falling down. I think he's a starter for maybe two more seasons before his knees make him a back up.
As far as Harden blaming him for anything? Harden is a very good GUNNER. One of the best street ballers around...but doesn't play defense for chit.....
As far as Harden blaming him for anything? Harden is a very good GUNNER. One of the best street ballers around...but doesn't play defense for chit.....
2021/22 - The return of the Ring.
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Nolan wrote:Dumb move by Houston. It makes them look foolish and if this doesn't work out it could blow up on them.
Says the man who predicted it all
* Since 1985, Jeremy Lin became one of 15 players to have scored at least 20 points, seven assists and a steal for six games in a row, including 136 points in 5 starts beating out Iverson, Jordan and O'Neal 
