Bucks looking at Bledsoe, probably.

DanGadzuric50 · Post #761 » by **DanGadzuric50** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 4:55 pm

If we don't get Bledsoe, which is highly unlikely anyways, and we don't trade for Lin + assets, I want Wolters starting at PG for 2014.

I wanted the Bucks to target Vasquez last year, which means we shouldn't be targeting him this year.

Absolutely no to Jarrett Jack, have you looked at his contract?

Wolters looked good last year and plays like a true PG, if we can't get someone big like Bledsoe there is no reason not to just play him and see if he develops.

Sonne · Post #762 » by **Sonne** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 5:03 pm

raferfenix wrote:I think one of the biggest reasons why Bledsoe would want to come here would be to learn the PG position under Kidd.

Of course he has a good thing going on in Phoenix and that team is well positioned to make some noise in the years to come. But unless they would choose him over Dragic, Bledsoe wouldn't ever really be the primary PG there.

Not sure if that matters at all to him though.

Bledsoe might think he would be better off in more of a combo guard role shooting first over creating for teammates. If that's the case my interest in committing to him would decrease as well.

you must be drunk as kidd to believe that bledsoe can learn something from him, you bucks fans are real funny but i enjoy reading this bledsoe nonsense here

jimmybones · Post #763 » by **jimmybones** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 5:07 pm

Diggr14 wrote:there is almost no realistic circumstance that it makes any sense for this team to deal a 1st round pick over the next 3 years, pretty much none. All Bledsoe does is push us closer to winning an 8 seed. It's too early to be making this move. Come next year, there will be another guy like this.... the year after that, the same thing.. and so on.

He isn't franchise changing, we should be focusing on drafting guys that are franchise changing and the best way to do that is not be the 8 seed. We havent had 2-3 years of top 5 picks.... stay the course.

It's really silly to say a guy like this will be available and attainable next year. Especially when we know who the pending free agents are next year. There's not a guy this young, talented and with his unique skillset at his position. If they think Bledsoe is THE guy to be the PG of a championship team, then you are massively underselling him as "just a guy" dime a dozen-available-every-year type.

It's also false to assume we'll have another top 5 pick next year. I don't see it happening.

Post #764 » by **ReasonablySober** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 5:07 pm

Sonne wrote:
raferfenix wrote:I think one of the biggest reasons why Bledsoe would want to come here would be to learn the PG position under Kidd.

Of course he has a good thing going on in Phoenix and that team is well positioned to make some noise in the years to come. But unless they would choose him over Dragic, Bledsoe wouldn't ever really be the primary PG there.

Not sure if that matters at all to him though.

Bledsoe might think he would be better off in more of a combo guard role shooting first over creating for teammates. If that's the case my interest in committing to him would decrease as well.

you must be drunk as kidd to believe that bledsoe can learn something from him, you bucks fans are real funny but i enjoy reading this bledsoe nonsense here

Yea, a 24 year old learning something from a hall of fame caliber point guard a year removed from playing in the NBA, that's **** absurd.

Frank Nova · Post #765 » by **Frank Nova** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 5:07 pm

Sonne wrote:
raferfenix wrote:I think one of the biggest reasons why Bledsoe would want to come here would be to learn the PG position under Kidd.

Of course he has a good thing going on in Phoenix and that team is well positioned to make some noise in the years to come. But unless they would choose him over Dragic, Bledsoe wouldn't ever really be the primary PG there.

Not sure if that matters at all to him though.

Bledsoe might think he would be better off in more of a combo guard role shooting first over creating for teammates. If that's the case my interest in committing to him would decrease as well.

you must be drunk as kidd to believe that bledsoe can learn something from him, you bucks fans are real funny but i enjoy reading this bledsoe nonsense here

Awesome 1st post, thanks for the insight :roll:

smooth 'lil balla · Post #766 » by **smooth 'lil balla** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 5:09 pm

Sonne wrote:
you must be drunk as kidd to believe that bledsoe can learn something from him, you bucks fans are real funny but i enjoy reading this bledsoe nonsense here

Nice first post. Impressive.

mlloyd10 · Post #767 » by **mlloyd10** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 5:16 pm

Sonne wrote:
raferfenix wrote:I think one of the biggest reasons why Bledsoe would want to come here would be to learn the PG position under Kidd.

Of course he has a good thing going on in Phoenix and that team is well positioned to make some noise in the years to come. But unless they would choose him over Dragic, Bledsoe wouldn't ever really be the primary PG there.

Not sure if that matters at all to him though.

Bledsoe might think he would be better off in more of a combo guard role shooting first over creating for teammates. If that's the case my interest in committing to him would decrease as well.

you must be drunk as kidd to believe that bledsoe can learn something from him, you bucks fans are real funny but i enjoy reading this bledsoe nonsense here

Go Away

MetroDrugUnit · Post #768 » by **MetroDrugUnit** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 5:19 pm

Leaning towards Lin. Although I'd like to see Nate get more minutes but if Houston really wants to go after Melo / Bosh get whatever we can asset wise (player and or pics). Play youth next season, get another top pic, use Houston Pic and have some money come off the books for next off season.

I think that is best case scenario, gets the team another name to get the casual fan (people who don't know that Lin really sucks) interested, doesn't really improve the team at all to make a 8th seed push and speeds up the rebuild the right way.

skones · Post #769 » by **skones** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 5:22 pm

Rockmaninoff wrote:
skones wrote:
Rockmaninoff wrote:Interesting company to say the least...

Oh please. Remember when You could do the same thing with Mo Williams numbers?

Where is Mo on that list? Are you talking about his outlier season at age 24 where he didn't meet the parameters?

Bledsoe's per 36 numbers are pretty constant through his four seasons. Bledsoe is 100x a better athlete and defender than Williams. Nice try though.

You're missing the point. The point is that you can take a data set, and manipulate it pretty easily to put a player in rare air. What's truly funny here is that the player you're arguing for didn't even meet the parameters you yourself set.

Mags FTW · Post #770 » by **Mags FTW** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 5:26 pm

Quickest suspension ever?

mcfromage · Post #771 » by **mcfromage** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 5:28 pm

Aside from the Sonne suspension, anything resembling news recently?

skones · Post #772 » by **skones** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 5:29 pm

LUKE23 wrote:For the people that want to wait, what guards do you want to target in FA or the draft next year? Lets just assume that teams aren't going to trade their good young point guards.

We're rebuilding. I don't think a long term solution at the point guard spot is as pressing need as some here seem to believe. You're ultimately hoping for Giabari to turn into Option A and Option B. I'd also like to give them as many reps as possible. With Bledsoe in the fold, a player who can get tunnel vision from time to time, it may hinder their development because he's getting paid max money, and as a result will command max opportunities. We haven't seen the two on the court together, so I'd like to keep my options open. As far as "assuming teams aren't going to trade their young point guards," that eliminates an entire realm of possibilities down the line just for the sake of your argument. Nothing more. How do you think the Suns got Bledsoe in the first place? Two offseasons ago, did you think we'd be discussing possibly throwing a maximum offersheet at Eric Bledsoe? Circumstances change. That's what you're failing to realize. Players get better. Other guys come out of nowhere. That's the nature of the beast. Not acknowledging those possibilities is just short sighted.

Mags FTW · Post #773 » by **Mags FTW** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 5:32 pm

mcfromage wrote:Aside from the Sonne suspension, anything resembling news recently?

The league is waiting on LeBron. His decision affects the Suns, Bosh to Houston, Lin, everything...

MetroDrugUnit · Post #774 » by **MetroDrugUnit** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 5:35 pm

Mags FTW wrote:
mcfromage wrote:Aside from the Sonne suspension, anything resembling news recently?

The league is waiting on LeBron. His decision affects the Suns, Bosh to Houston, Lin, everything...

Just how he wants it

Bfinkish · Post #775 » by **Bfinkish** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 5:37 pm

How long is Lebron going to take? 2 weeks? Month?

eagle13 · Post #776 » by **eagle13** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 5:38 pm

Since we have so few attractive assets how do the Bucks clear enough cap space to sign Bledsoe anyway? Henson & Knight only clears around $5mil - way way way short. Does anyone really think Phoenix or anyone else is going to take Mayo, Ersan or Zaza off our hands without giving salary back? There are very few teams that could absorb any of those three - Philly and Suns - but why would they take on all that salary? For a 2nd round pick? Yeah right. We sure would be dumb to give up a 1st. This whole discussion is based on complete unreality.

Same with getting Lin & NO's 1st from Houston. If Rockets want to clear salary they want nothing back except maybe a 2nd ot minimum salary player. So how do we fit Lin?

Larry Hensen · Post #777 » by **Larry Hensen** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 5:39 pm

I know I'm going to get harassed for this, but you guys are overestimating Wolters.

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Insomniaac · Post #778 » by **Insomniaac** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 5:44 pm

Larry Hensen wrote:I know I'm going to get harassed for this, but you guys are overestimating Wolters.

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I think so too. I like him a lot and I hope I'm wrong but I don't see him ending up as the answer at pg. That said, he should start this year if we don't get anyone else. Rather have him running point than knight

Post #779 » by **ReasonablySober** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 5:48 pm

MKE wrote:
Larry Hensen wrote:I know I'm going to get harassed for this, but you guys are overestimating Wolters.

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I think so too. I like him a lot and I hope I'm wrong but I don't see him ending up as the answer at pg. That said, he should start this year if we don't get anyone else. Rather have him running point than knight

You're both confused. This a thread in which the majority of posters want him replaced with Bledsoe. Many who don't are talking about finding his replacement in 2015 via the draft or free agency.

Johnlac1 · Post #780 » by **Johnlac1** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 5:49 pm

MetroDrugUnit wrote:Leaning towards Lin. Although I'd like to see Nate get more minutes but if Houston really wants to go after Melo / Bosh get whatever we can asset wise (player and or pics). Play youth next season, get another top pic, use Houston Pic and have some money come off the books for next off season.

I think that is best case scenario, gets the team another name to get the casual fan (people who don't know that Lin really sucks) interested, doesn't really improve the team at all to make a 8th seed push and speeds up the rebuild the right way.

Unless Giannis turns out to be Magic Johnson 2, Lin would be the best choice. I simply don't want Vasquez. Bledsoe is a better scorer/penetrator over Lin, but Lin is the better passer/set-up man. If you have a potential big scorer like Parker, slashers like Giannis , and post-up men like Henson, you want Lin running the offense. He can still get pts , penetrate,and play adequate defense.