2014 Miami Heat Offseason Thread (Rumors/Reports) 5.0

RSCD3_ · Post #1461 » by **RSCD3_** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:22 pm

mopper8 wrote:
RSCD3_ wrote:
2thehoopand1 wrote:I'm intrigued. However he doesn't necessarily means he's plays like he's 6'10 hope he can impersonate Mike Miller when it counts.

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Plus his wingspan is 7'1 so he won't have TRex arms

White guy with lingers arms than his height in the nba is this even possible lol

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athletic white guy with long arms lol, rare indeed

It's funny because all of these parsons Hayward guys have above average athleticism but short arms

Durant is just as athletic but has 7 inch longer arms than parsons

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fishfuego. · Post #1462 » by **fishfuego.** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:22 pm

2thehoopand1 wrote:
booklover26 wrote:SMH

I almost don't want Miami win just so this Knucklehead doesn't get a ring.

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Give up already.

He was a member of a competitor.

See Nash/Kobe.
Malone/Stockton Utah...Kobe/Shaq Lakers...etc, etc, etc.

It happens.

Sonny Carson · Post #1463 » by **Sonny Carson** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:23 pm

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 3m
No guarantees made, but Danny Granger/Josh McRoberts committed to Heat w/ strong belief LeBron James will be a teammate, sources tell Yahoo.

:itshappeninggif:

Dmcdani6 · Post #1464 » by **Dmcdani6** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:23 pm

mopper8 wrote:
Dmcdani6 wrote:
mopper8 wrote:I think we'd sign Oden over Hamilton...

See thats what I was thinking. I think that last C spot goes to Oden, because McBob is a better version of him. Except Hamilton rebounds better?

Yeah and I think posters on this board underrate how much the staff liked Oden last season. If he hadn't hurt his back he might've been our starting C through the playoffs. The minutes restriction, fitness, and timing issues were all real, but are things that could fade next season, leaving him as a legit 15-20mpg big.

If he comes back looking good it wouldn't be crazy to imagine him starting again

C: Oden (15) | Birdman (20) | Bosh (13)
PF: Bosh (20) | McRoberts (24) | Lebron (4)

I think he is interesting as well, But Im afraid of Oden being Injured again, where Hamilton looks like he can stay upright. Rebounding is the either issue he alleviates, obviously they know more. But, If I were the Heat Id hate to see potential go.

Post #1465 » by **mopper8** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:23 pm

daniel3 wrote:
mopper8 wrote:I think we'd sign Oden over Hamilton...

That would be incredibly stupid. Hamilton has shown far too much in comparison to Oden showing little other than his propensity to get injured.

Hamilton has played 72 total minutes in his NBA career, it's a stretch to suggest he's shown anything.

Post #1466 » by **DefenseWins** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:24 pm

The ticket is hilarious today

DeeDub · Post #1467 » by **DeeDub** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:25 pm

mopper8 wrote:
Dmcdani6 wrote:
mopper8 wrote:I think we'd sign Oden over Hamilton...

See thats what I was thinking. I think that last C spot goes to Oden, because McBob is a better version of him. Except Hamilton rebounds better?

Yeah and I think posters on this board underrate how much the staff liked Oden last season. If he hadn't hurt his back he might've been our starting C through the playoffs. The minutes restriction, fitness, and timing issues were all real, but are things that could fade next season, leaving him as a legit 15-20mpg big.

If he comes back looking good it wouldn't be crazy to imagine him starting again

C: Oden (15) | Birdman (20) | Bosh (13)
PF: Bosh (20) | McRoberts (24) | Lebron (4)

You think? My take was that they couldn't really fit Oden into the system. It seemed like they got him for the Hibbert matchup, gave him that start against Indy and he struggled, and they yanked him for the remainder of the season practically. I assumed the injury excuse was bogus -- the timing just suggested to me that they realized he wasn't going to give them what they expected and then found him pretty useless. Do you have strong info to suggest they did really like him and see him as part of the future?

Amorphous Blob · Post #1468 » by **Amorphous Blob** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:25 pm

DefenseWins wrote:The ticket is hilarious today

Gonna catch the Podcast later.

Post #1469 » by **DefenseWins** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:25 pm

Hm so why would granger and McRoberts have a STRONG BELIEF that Lebron will be a teammate

An0nym1ty · Post #1470 » by **An0nym1ty** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:25 pm

Nobymoby wrote: how could we sign this ass. I'm sorry, but this guy doesn't even have anything left from what I saw.

Because for $2 million a year, we got a guy who averaged 8 PPG last season while coming off an injury. He'll never again be the number one he was in Indy before getting hurt, but if he finds a middle ground, we got a steal. Hell, even if he just replicates his regular season production from last season, we got a steal. He had an awful postseason, certainly, but try to remember that the Clippers only lasted two rounds and he averaged only 10.3 MPG during those rounds. That's a bit of a small sample size compared to 8.3 PPG and 33% 3P% in 22.5 MPG in Indy and 8.0 PPG with 35.3% 3P% in 16.2 MPG in LAC during the regular season. And just two seasons ago he averaged 18.7 PPG with a 38% 3P%.

Granger is low-risk/high-reward. If he doesn't pan out, we still have Ennis behind him, and we're probably not done signing roleplayers yet. But, honestly, he is not a bad pickup at all. If we'd given him the MLE, I would have said it was absolutely terrible. But for, what? $2.1 million a year for two seasons? ****, I'll take my chances with him.

Amorphous Blob · Post #1471 » by **Amorphous Blob** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:26 pm

DefenseWins wrote:Hm so why would granger and McRoberts have a STRONG BELIEF that Lebron will be a teammate

TAMPERING!

Post #1472 » by **KingDavid** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:26 pm

MIA wrote:
KingDavid wrote:
mopper8 wrote:
Doesn't work like that. We can sign LBJ to whatever contract without renouncing him.

A few on GB were saying right now we can renounce and have a big 4...and it would all be legal.

I wouldn't be on the GB if I were you... **** get crazy over there

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I don't have issues on the GB. But I know I'd have to lay low if the big 3 leave. They turn into wolves. But other than that, it's tolerable.

SweetTouch · Post #1473 » by **SweetTouch** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:26 pm

I always listen to the podcast after it gets uploaded

Never live cuz I work

Makes time on the train go quick

Dmcdani6 · Post #1474 » by **Dmcdani6** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:26 pm

If Oden Pans out, you have a legit C. But Hamilton can give you Center qualities, with a three ball. Both are interesting.

Picklewagon · Post #1475 » by **Picklewagon** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:27 pm

Remember when granger averaged 26 ppg for a season? Seems like a lifetime ago.

Post #1476 » by **mopper8** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:27 pm

DeeDub wrote:
mopper8 wrote:
Dmcdani6 wrote:
See thats what I was thinking. I think that last C spot goes to Oden, because McBob is a better version of him. Except Hamilton rebounds better?

Yeah and I think posters on this board underrate how much the staff liked Oden last season. If he hadn't hurt his back he might've been our starting C through the playoffs. The minutes restriction, fitness, and timing issues were all real, but are things that could fade next season, leaving him as a legit 15-20mpg big.

If he comes back looking good it wouldn't be crazy to imagine him starting again

C: Oden (15) | Birdman (20) | Bosh (13)
PF: Bosh (20) | McRoberts (24) | Lebron (4)

You think? My take was that they couldn't really fit Oden into the system. It seemed like they got him for the Hibbert matchup, gave him that start against Indy and he struggled, and they yanked him for the remainder of the season practically. I assumed the injury excuse was bogus -- the timing just suggested to me that they realized he wasn't going to give them what they expected and then found him pretty useless. Do you have strong info to suggest they did really like him and see him as part of the future?

Riley had a quote in, I think, the end-of-the-season press conference that they had a specific plan in place to have him start for at least the remainder of the regular season as I recall, but on a minutes restriction...8-10mpg basically as a token starter. What I took from it was that they liked him and were developing him for next season

RexBoyWonder · Post #1477 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:27 pm

I'll tell you this much - Mbbob makes ALOT of sense IF we keep the big 3.

If they're gone, not so much.

RSCD3_ · Post #1478 » by **RSCD3_** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:28 pm

Picklewagon wrote:Remember when granger averaged 26 ppg for a season? Seems like a lifetime ago.

2009

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Grumpy Heat Fan · Post #1479 » by **Grumpy Heat Fan** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:28 pm

The Cavaliers hired Byron Scott in 2010 with the "strong belief" that LeBron would remain in Cleveland, too.

Dmcdani6 · Post #1480 » by **Dmcdani6** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:29 pm

DeeDub wrote:
mopper8 wrote:
Dmcdani6 wrote:
See thats what I was thinking. I think that last C spot goes to Oden, because McBob is a better version of him. Except Hamilton rebounds better?

Yeah and I think posters on this board underrate how much the staff liked Oden last season. If he hadn't hurt his back he might've been our starting C through the playoffs. The minutes restriction, fitness, and timing issues were all real, but are things that could fade next season, leaving him as a legit 15-20mpg big.

If he comes back looking good it wouldn't be crazy to imagine him starting again

C: Oden (15) | Birdman (20) | Bosh (13)
PF: Bosh (20) | McRoberts (24) | Lebron (4)

You think? My take was that they couldn't really fit Oden into the system. It seemed like they got him for the Hibbert matchup, gave him that start against Indy and he struggled, and they yanked him for the remainder of the season practically. I assumed the injury excuse was bogus -- the timing just suggested to me that they realized he wasn't going to give them what they expected and then found him pretty useless. Do you have strong info to suggest they did really like him and see him as part of the future?

Only thing I go off of is Riley saying something alone the lines of "Can't walk away from talent like Oden."