2014 Miami Heat Offseason Thread (Rumors/Reports) 5.0

Nobymoby · Post #1481 » by **Nobymoby** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:29 pm

MIA wrote:
KingDavid wrote:
mopper8 wrote:
Doesn't work like that. We can sign LBJ to whatever contract without renouncing him.

A few on GB were saying right now we can renounce and have a big 4...and it would all be legal.

I wouldn't be on the GB if I were you... **** get crazy over there

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Pretty worthless board. Little to no objectivity.

djkeem · Post #1482 » by **djkeem** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:29 pm

FYI Hamilton is still under contract for this upcoming season.

fast-break · Post #1483 » by **fast-break** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:29 pm

So...Pat Riley's biggest signings of the offseason have been McRoberts and Danny Granger...but "Lebron ain't loyal"? :lol:

Eat your words, dummies.

DeeDub · Post #1484 » by **DeeDub** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:30 pm

mopper8 wrote:
DeeDub wrote:
mopper8 wrote:
Yeah and I think posters on this board underrate how much the staff liked Oden last season. If he hadn't hurt his back he might've been our starting C through the playoffs. The minutes restriction, fitness, and timing issues were all real, but are things that could fade next season, leaving him as a legit 15-20mpg big.

If he comes back looking good it wouldn't be crazy to imagine him starting again

C: Oden (15) | Birdman (20) | Bosh (13)
PF: Bosh (20) | McRoberts (24) | Lebron (4)

You think? My take was that they couldn't really fit Oden into the system. It seemed like they got him for the Hibbert matchup, gave him that start against Indy and he struggled, and they yanked him for the remainder of the season practically. I assumed the injury excuse was bogus -- the timing just suggested to me that they realized he wasn't going to give them what they expected and then found him pretty useless. Do you have strong info to suggest they did really like him and see him as part of the future?

Riley had a quote in, I think, the end-of-the-season press conference that they had a specific plan in place to have him start for at least the remainder of the regular season as I recall, but on a minutes restriction...8-10mpg basically as a token starter. What I took from it was that they liked him and were developing him for next season

Yeah, I heard that but didn't take it too seriously. Maybe because it didn't fit my preconceived impression.

cb1 · Post #1485 » by **cb1** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:30 pm

Granger should be a third string sf or pf if we go super small but no way he should play above Ennis. Ennis, Napier, McRoberts already make us a better team than last year imo

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Dmcdani6 · Post #1486 » by **Dmcdani6** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:31 pm

djkeem wrote:FYI Hamilton is still under contract for this upcoming season.

Non-guranteed I believe though.

Post #1487 » by **DefenseWins** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:32 pm

http://www.gq.com/blogs/the-feed/2014/0 ... gency.html

Oh

Quote is from September 2010 tho

HeatDaChamps · Post #1488 » by **HeatDaChamps** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:32 pm

cb1 wrote:Granger should be a third string sf or pf if we go super small but no way he should play above Ennis. Ennis, Napier, McRoberts already make us a better team than last year imo

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Except Ennis hasn't played a single minute of Nba basketballl...

Sonny Carson · Post #1489 » by **Sonny Carson** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:33 pm

Granger averaged 18/5 per 36 last year. Riley the Boss.

RexBoyWonder · Post #1490 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:33 pm

fast-break wrote:So...Pat Riley's biggest signings of the offseason have been McRoberts and Danny Granger...but "Lebron ain't loyal"?

Eat your words, dummies.

You know what, I almost hope Lebron leaves so we can rid of annoying fanboys like you. Go start a Lebron Board somewhere else.

Post #1491 » by **mopper8** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:33 pm

DeeDub wrote:
mopper8 wrote:
DeeDub wrote:

You think? My take was that they couldn't really fit Oden into the system. It seemed like they got him for the Hibbert matchup, gave him that start against Indy and he struggled, and they yanked him for the remainder of the season practically. I assumed the injury excuse was bogus -- the timing just suggested to me that they realized he wasn't going to give them what they expected and then found him pretty useless. Do you have strong info to suggest they did really like him and see him as part of the future?

Riley had a quote in, I think, the end-of-the-season press conference that they had a specific plan in place to have him start for at least the remainder of the regular season as I recall, but on a minutes restriction...8-10mpg basically as a token starter. What I took from it was that they liked him and were developing him for next season

Yeah, I heard that but didn't take it too seriously. Maybe because it didn't fit my preconceived impression.

It also seemed to me that they were going away from some of the stuff they do defensively that requires lots of lateral quickness from the bigs. In the 2nd half of the season they started trapping less in the middle of the court and doing more sagging and such, and it was pretty effective at times. Zach Lowe has a nice write-up back in Jan or Feb about how we basically shut Indy down playing a less-hyper version of our D for an entire 4th quarter. So it seemed like what we were doing was evolving in a way that made Oden a more natural fit anyway. Certainly he can lurk along the baselines on offense like Birdman does just fine and sets a nasty a screen, the question is defensively whether he makes sense, since that is what brings to the table anyway.

deedsy · Post #1492 » by **deedsy** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:33 pm

just finished watching McRoberts highlights - looks to be a great fit for this team, especially with his surprisingly good passing. Our PF rotation is solid now (assuming Bosh stays). Would have liked him for cheaper, but that's the current market..

Not sure how I feel about Granger..

Would like a starting quality center right now, but who is left other than Jordan Hill? A healthy 15 mpg Oden would make a huge difference anyway.

Post #1493 » by **DefenseWins** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:34 pm

Sonny Carson wrote:Granger averaged 18/5 per 36 last year. Riley the Boss.

He has sucked in the playoffs tho

But I don't expect a huge role from him

djkeem · Post #1494 » by **djkeem** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:34 pm

Dmcdani6 wrote:
djkeem wrote:FYI Hamilton is still under contract for this upcoming season.

Non-guranteed I believe though.

Yea you're right, just looked it up.

Sonny Carson · Post #1495 » by **Sonny Carson** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:34 pm

DefenseWins wrote:http://www.gq.com/blogs/the-feed/2014/07/lebron-james-cleveland-cavaliers-free-agency.html

Oh

Quote is from September 2010 tho

Of course he has. However, he's not passing up possible championships the next coupe of years for Cleveland. Maybe in 3 or 4 years though.

RexBoyWonder · Post #1496 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:35 pm

Could it the reason we didn't finalized the deal with Mcbob be that we only want him NEXT to big 3? If we don't keep them, he doesn't fit nearly as well.

SWadeUP · Post #1497 » by **SWadeUP** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:35 pm

fast-break wrote:So...Pat Riley's biggest signings of the offseason have been McRoberts and Danny Granger...but "Lebron ain't loyal"?

Eat your words, dummies.

OMG stfu.

"heat fans"

fast-break · Post #1498 » by **fast-break** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:36 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:
fast-break wrote:So...Pat Riley's biggest signings of the offseason have been McRoberts and Danny Granger...but "Lebron ain't loyal"?

Eat your words, dummies.

You know what, I almost hope Lebron leaves so we can rid of annoying fanboys like you. Go start a Lebron Board somewhere else.

Only if you start your own personal board for a Granger jerk fest first?

Foh. Trash doesn't always turn into gold just because it's sporting Red & Black.

Smash3 · Post #1499 » by **Smash3** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:36 pm

Nasty... Really? Mcbob and Granger? Nasty...

Post #1500 » by **KingDavid** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:36 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:Could it the reason we didn't finalized the deal with Mcbob be that we only want him NEXT to big 3? If we don't keep them, he doesn't fit nearly as well.

No official signings until July 10th.