Bucks looking at Bledsoe, probably.

[skones]

Noone is assuming we have enough talent, thats why we'd be targeting Bledsoe.

Right, with Bledsoe people are assuming we can contend. I'd much rather watch our young guys play for a year, add another top 5 pick, and worry about adding Bledsoe level players in 2-3 years. Just because I can't look into the future and site specific players doesn't mean opportunities won't arise. Everyone here is acting like its now or nothing.

and what if we don't get a top 5 pick next year?

Then a lot of question marks are removed about the Parker and Giannis tandem and we're able to make an informed decision about who we throw money at with regards to roster fit.

Less than two weeks ago half the board was saying "ick" to Parker because he was the next Glenn Robinson and not a player that could be the best player on a championship caliber team, yet for some reason we're going to sign Bledsoe to be the second or third fiddle to him?

[Scoops]

We've been in the lottery 7 out of the last 10 years

Since the rebuild began which started with trading Jennings and letting Ellis walk we've been in the lottery once.

We have 1 top 5 pick on the roster excluding Fatty.

It would be stupid to assume we have enough talent to contend and go balls out and try to win when we're coming off the worst record in the league and will be relying on two 19 year olds to carry us.

Considering if there was a redraft for last year Giannis very possibly goes #1. If not he definatly doesn't fall out of the top 5. So I'd say if your looking at it like that we have 2 top 5 pick type talents. Also I'm pretty sure the Spurs don't have an assortment of talent picked in the top5 of the draft outside of Duncan. Geeze it seems to me that you think if the guy isn't acquired for top 5 pick then he has no chance at being great... It's about talent.... I don't really care where we get it from

It is about talent...but it was stated that some people are addicted to losing when we've been in the lottery 1 year since starting to rebuild. 1 year is nothing.

Right now we have the chance to add more talent through the draft instead of chasing the playoffs and then in the future can add proven, veteran talent around our GA/JB/2015/2016 core.

[Chuck Diesel]

Noone is assuming we have enough talent, thats why we'd be targeting Bledsoe.

Right, with Bledsoe people are assuming we can contend. I'd much rather watch our young guys play for a year, add another top 5 pick, and worry about adding Bledsoe level players in 2-3 years. Just because I can't look into the future and site specific players doesn't mean opportunities won't arise. Everyone here is acting like its now or nothing.

Yep. Mike Conley is unrestricted in 2016 but at 28 he'll be close to useless and almost out of the league. Steph Curry, Derrick Rose, Russell Westbrook & Jrue Holliday are all unrestricted in 2017 but why even bother?

[trwi7]

I don't think Bledsoe wanting to be here makes it happen at all. The Suns not wanting Bledsoe back on a max contract makes it happen and who knows what the odds are on that. Even Ersan, Knight, Henson and Middleton is probably bad value for Bledsoe if they don't mind paying him the max.

Yeah, we wanted Teague last year and Teague wanted to be here. Didn't happen because the Hawks could keep him no matter what we or the player wanted. Same with Bledsoe.

[Turk Nowitzki]

It all comes down to Bledsoe.

If he truly wants to be in Milwaukee, it will happen.

I really think that's an oversimplification. I just don't see any real incentive for Phoenix to let him go.

[Turk Nowitzki]

I don't think Bledsoe wanting to be here makes it happen at all. The Suns not wanting Bledsoe back on a max contract makes it happen and who knows what the odds are on that. Even Ersan, Knight, Henson and Middleton is probably bad value for Bledsoe if they don't mind paying him the max.

Yeah, we wanted Teague last year and Teague wanted to be here. Didn't happen because the Hawks could keep him no matter what we or the player wanted. Same with Bledsoe.

Yep, seems like this is being conveniently ignored.

[Baddy Chuck]

I don't think Bledsoe wanting to be here makes it happen at all. The Suns not wanting Bledsoe back on a max contract makes it happen and who knows what the odds are on that. Even Ersan, Knight, Henson and Middleton is probably bad value for Bledsoe if they don't mind paying him the max.

For the Suns or the Bucks?

Suns. They give up a difference maker for a hodgepodge of middling prospects. I look at it this way, you could trade all the guys going out on our end for draft picks and I rather have Bledsoe then any pick we could possibly acquire with those guys.

[Bernman]

Knight/Ersan for Max Bledsoe/Bogdanovic?

Let it go, man. Let it go. That ship has sailed. He's a fresh prospect for them and they're not giving US sweetener in an s&t.

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But in thinking about the Suns' roster since we've been linked with them this offseason, I would like to some way pry Alex Len off them. He's been tarnished by his disappointing first season, but that could have been byproducts of the up and down play as well as what may have been temporary injury problems. He showed some really positive things in key areas for a 7-footer in college like touch, footwork, court vision, shot blocking, rebounding, etc. And our center situation is volatile with Larry, so this would give us insurance against him imploding. It would probably require the Suns to really not want Bledsoe back on the max though because otherwise there would go some of our assets like Knight, who would be a good fit next to Dragic, and about a match trade value-wise with Len, IMO. I'd have different plans with Henson, like using him to acquire a player at a separate position, like shooting guard, i.e.: Alec Burks.

Hopefully we can have our cake and eat it too with signing Bledsoe and keeping some of these other guys as trade chips for more potential future core bolstering, but we'll probably end up only getting one or the other. Worst case scenario IMO is that we hold onto both Knight and Henson, plus settle for Vazquez or someone like him just to fill that spot with a viable option. That would leave a sour taste in my mouth for an offseason that started out so well.

[King4Day]

If the Bucks offered a 12-13 mil per year contract for Bledsoe and he accepted it, Phoenix would say 'thank you' and match.
All signs still point to the Suns matching regardless. There's even rumors that we're going to trade Dragic (that may be contingent on whether LeBron goes to Phoenix).

[RRyder823]

Noone is assuming we have enough talent, thats why we'd be targeting Bledsoe.

Right, with Bledsoe people are assuming we can contend. I'd much rather watch our young guys play for a year, add another top 5 pick, and worry about adding Bledsoe level players in 2-3 years. Just because I can't look into the future and site specific players doesn't mean opportunities won't arise. Everyone here is acting like its now or nothing.

Nobody has said it's now or nothing.... Quite the contrary... Most of us are simply saying if you have the chance to get a potentially star level player you don't wait and hope but rather make a play for that player... ... The problem is your assuming a top 5 pick is almost a lock while others around here don't think it is..... Also while I agree that not be able to cite specific players doesn't mean that they won't arise but your also operating under the assumption that they will.... That's another thing that's far from a sure thing

[theFireBlanket]

Noone is assuming we have enough talent, thats why we'd be targeting Bledsoe.

Right, with Bledsoe people are assuming we can contend. I'd much rather watch our young guys play for a year, add another top 5 pick, and worry about adding Bledsoe level players in 2-3 years. Just because I can't look into the future and site specific players doesn't mean opportunities won't arise. Everyone here is acting like its now or nothing.

Unfortunately the owners might have determined it's necessary to attempt to accelerate the rebuilding process because of the need for arena funding. In addition we don't know how much losing J. Kidd is willing to tolerate while younger players are learning.

It's a pretty cyclical pattern that this board caves to a win now approach because the fan-base is starved for a winning team. The talent base is beginning to get there but rebuilding takes patience. I'm not advocating putting a crap team on the floor but the price of acquiring Bledsoe should be given serious consideration (contract value and potential players going to PHX).

Other team's moves will determine where the Bucks stack up record-wise at the end of next year as much as their own moves (barring whatever injuries or off the court circumstances dictate missed games).

[King4Day]

Knight/Ersan for Max Bledsoe/Bogdanovic?

Let it go, man. Let it go. That ship has sailed. He's a fresh prospect for them and they're not giving US sweetener in an s&t.

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But in thinking about the Suns' roster since we've been linked with them this offseason, I would like to some way pry Alex Len off them. He's been tarnished by his disappointing first season, but that could have been byproducts of the up and down play as well as what may have been temporary injury problems. He showed some really positive things in key areas for a 7-footer in college like touch, footwork, court vision, shot blocking, rebounding, etc. And our center situation is volatile with Larry, so this would give us insurance against him imploding. It would probably require the Suns to really not want Bledsoe back on the max though because otherwise there would go some of our assets like Knight, who would be a good fit next to Dragic, and about a match trade value-wise with Len, IMO. I'd have different plans with Henson, like using him to acquire a player at a separate position, like shooting guard, i.e.: Alec Burks. Hopefully we can have our cake and eat it too with signing Bledsoe and keeping some of these other guys as trade chips for more potential future core bolstering, but we'll probably end up having to settle for one or the other.

It mostly had to do with his injury. Len didn't play in the Summer and hardly played in preseason. When he did play (post injury), he showed flashes of being a really good player. He fouls like a madman though so that has to be fixed.
Suns fans think he'll become available only if we get LeBron (we realize it's extremely unlikely). Since the assumption we would need more room to add higher priced talent.

[Baddy Chuck]

If the Bucks offered a 12-13 mil per year contract for Bledsoe and he accepted it, Phoenix would say 'thank you' and match.
All signs still point to the Suns matching regardless. There's even rumors that we're going to trade Dragic (that may be contingent on whether LeBron goes to Phoenix).

I think most of us realize it's max, and likely max S&T, or nothing. And even then we aren't getting our hopes up.

But you guys really think you got a shot at LeBron?

[theFireBlanket]

If the Bucks offered a 12-13 mil per year contract for Bledsoe and he accepted it, Phoenix would say 'thank you' and match.
All signs still point to the Suns matching regardless. There's even rumors that we're going to trade Dragic (that may be contingent on whether LeBron goes to Phoenix).

I'd take Dragic.

[ampd]

Noone is assuming we have enough talent, thats why we'd be targeting Bledsoe.

Right, with Bledsoe people are assuming we can contend. I'd much rather watch our young guys play for a year, add another top 5 pick, and worry about adding Bledsoe level players in 2-3 years. Just because I can't look into the future and site specific players doesn't mean opportunities won't arise. Everyone here is acting like its now or nothing.

Assuming we have a chance to contend with Bledsoe in a few years is no different than assuming we will draft in the top 2-3 picks this season, assuming whoever we draft will pan out and enable us to contend in 2-3 years, and assuming more players like Bledsoe will be available with a reasonable chance of actually getting them to replace the guys we jettisoned to pick in the top 3 this season.

[EastSideBucksFan]

It all comes down to Bledsoe.

If he truly wants to be in Milwaukee, it will happen.

I really think that's an oversimplification. I just don't see any real incentive for Phoenix to let him go.

Obviously there are other points. They've all been made.

This is the new NBA. If a guy wants to force a trade, it can usually happen.

We have aggressive owners and the Bucks have already poached a coach.

[King4Day]

It all comes down to Bledsoe.

If he truly wants to be in Milwaukee, it will happen.

I really think that's an oversimplification. I just don't see any real incentive for Phoenix to let him go.

While I don't think Bledsoe leaves Phoenix, years ago, Joe Johnson was adamant about leaving for the Hawks (when he was restricted as a Sun) and we actually gave in and did a sign and trade.
So it's certainly possible in the even Bledsoe demanded out. I still don't see it happening but it has been seen before fwiw.

[EastSideBucksFan]

It all comes down to Bledsoe.

If he truly wants to be in Milwaukee, it will happen.

I really think that's an oversimplification. I just don't see any real incentive for Phoenix to let him go.

While I don't think Bledsoe leaves Phoenix, years ago, Joe Johnson was adamant about leaving for the Hawks (when he was restricted as a Sun) and we actually gave in and did a sign and trade.
So it's certainly possible in the even Bledsoe demanded out. I still don't see it happening but it has been seen before fwiw.

Exactly.

[King4Day]

If the Bucks offered a 12-13 mil per year contract for Bledsoe and he accepted it, Phoenix would say 'thank you' and match.
All signs still point to the Suns matching regardless. There's even rumors that we're going to trade Dragic (that may be contingent on whether LeBron goes to Phoenix).

I think most of us realize it's max, and likely max S&T, or nothing. And even then we aren't getting our hopes up.

But you guys really think you got a shot at LeBron?

btw, I don't want it to come off like I'm coming here saying, "you have no shot so keep dreaming". I'm just giving you guys insight from what we have been hearing.

We had more faith about getting LeBron a week ago but it's starting to fade. Today the Suns supposedly met with LeBron and we'll know by tonight or tomorrow if we're a real option.

Nobody knows what 'plan B' will be though. Bledsoe appears to be the only sure thing.

[phx#7]

If the Bucks offered a 12-13 mil per year contract for Bledsoe and he accepted it, Phoenix would say 'thank you' and match.
All signs still point to the Suns matching regardless. There's even rumors that we're going to trade Dragic (that may be contingent on whether LeBron goes to Phoenix).

I think most of us realize it's max, and likely max S&T, or nothing. And even then we aren't getting our hopes up.

But you guys really think you got a shot at LeBron?

Suns brass seems to think so. They reportedly have moves lined up and the only reason they haven't moved yet is because they think they are still in it.