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2014 Miami Heat Offseason Thread (Rumors/Reports/Lies) 6.0

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Re: 2014 Miami Heat Offseason Thread (Rumors/Reports/Lies) 6 

Post#581 » by IggieCC » Tue Jul 8, 2014 1:37 pm

QueenOfFairies wrote:Ok serious question:

What is everyone's feelings if Bron only signs a two year deal with an opt out next summer?
Honestly, if that's what he does...I'd prefer we let him walk...we can't be held hostage not can we have the franchise go through such volatility year in and year out.

I have similar feelings about a flat two year deal...
We need long term commitments...we need continuity.


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I kind of like short term contracts of any players over 30 years old or so. Or even relatively young players.

When was the last time a long-term deal really panned out? Remember A-Rod?
Arenas’s $22.3 million salary (!) in 2013 ranks 30th among all athletes and is the third-highest among NBA players. Only Kobe Bryant ($30.5 million) and Dirk Nowitzki ($22.7 million) made more.


Short-term deals are risky for players, and they give TEAMS great flexibility as well. I don't mind.

I WILL ABSOLUTELY HATE GOING THROUGH ANOTHER SUMMER LIKE THIS IN 2 YEARS, THOUGH. oh well
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Post#582 » by El Alonzo scowl » Tue Jul 8, 2014 1:37 pm

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Re: 2014 Miami Heat Offseason Thread (Rumors/Reports/Lies) 6 

Post#583 » by LEIF » Tue Jul 8, 2014 1:40 pm

AlexCRO wrote:We signed 2 guys with our excpetions... but i dont understand how if we have one player signed currently ??? what if the big 3 signed discounted deals and we are not over the cap? could somebody explain ? thx



EDIT** Didn't see Mopper had explained before posting.


Due to the cap holds of the Big 3 and the rest of our roster we technically have 0 cap space until all of the Big 3 sign new, discounted deals, leave the Heat, or we renounce the rights to them (not happening). We can either renounce everybody except the Big 3, have them take discounted amounts and then operate as a cap ROOM team or we can not renounce anyone, have the Big 3 sign at a number close to the cap (with Norris Cole and Shabazz Napier + cap holds and roster charges added) and then use our exceptions for McBob and DG, leaving us with only the Joel Anthony 2.2 million TPE to use for one more "above the vet minimum" addition. We cant do both, you cannot use cap space to sign outside free agents AND then also use the MLE/Bi Annual exceptions.

While it has been reported that we are using our exceptions, and the money we agreed to "reportedly" lines up exactly with exception money, It is not 100% a given that we are using exceptions and operating as a capped team.

Let me try to explain further.

We have 2 options at this point. We can either have the Big 3 opt out (as they did), take considerably less and then operate as a cap "Room Team" and make all of our signings using cap space. This could even include the two deals agreed upon yesterday, we would just slot them in at the starting salaries for those amounts but they wouldn't be signed into exceptions just outright cap space signings. If the Big 3 took WAY WAY less we could conceivably add another piece using all of this cap space, but it would also require us renouncing the rights to all of our free agents aside from the Big 3 (including Rio, Ray Ray and Birdman).

Due to the fact that we signed McBob and DG at exactly the reported amounts of the MLE and Bi Annual Exception it appears we are looking to operate as a capped team using our exceptions to exceed the salary cap, and then further exceed the cap by resigning Ray Allen, Chris Anderson and maybe even...gulp...Mario Chalmers. But it points to the Big 3 coming back to Miami.
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Post#584 » by Sonny Carson » Tue Jul 8, 2014 1:45 pm

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Post#585 » by Mugiwara » Tue Jul 8, 2014 1:46 pm

However, according to a league source, CSN has learned Temple is not weighing any offer from Miami at this time. Like the rest of the league, it's a waiting game for the defensive-minded guard until James, Anthony and perhaps Bosh make their decisions.


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Post#586 » by fsuizzy » Tue Jul 8, 2014 1:50 pm

Mugiwara wrote:
However, according to a league source, CSN has learned Temple is not weighing any offer from Miami at this time. Like the rest of the league, it's a waiting game for the defensive-minded guard until James, Anthony and perhaps Bosh make their decisions.


Stupid Tim Reynolds. :nonono:



We don't want Temple anyway lol
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Post#587 » by fsuizzy » Tue Jul 8, 2014 1:52 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/560WQAM/status/486505056519602176[/tweet]
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Re: 2014 Miami Heat Offseason Thread (Rumors/Reports/Lies) 6 

Post#588 » by Mugiwara » Tue Jul 8, 2014 1:54 pm

fsuizzy wrote:
Mugiwara wrote:
However, according to a league source, CSN has learned Temple is not weighing any offer from Miami at this time. Like the rest of the league, it's a waiting game for the defensive-minded guard until James, Anthony and perhaps Bosh make their decisions.


Stupid Tim Reynolds. :nonono:



We don't want Temple anyway lol


That's why! Why did he scared us like that? ?
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Post#589 » by HeatNolesFan » Tue Jul 8, 2014 1:56 pm

fsuizzy wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/560WQAM/status/486505056519602176[/tweet]

Let him hold out hope. Bosh is a much better fit for this team and with the cap the way it is, no way we do big 4 unless everyone takes huge paycuts. IMO both LeBron and Melo sign deals with ETOs for the summer of 2016 because of the potential lockout. They can revisit this then.
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Post#590 » by BIRDMAN BIRDMAN » Tue Jul 8, 2014 1:58 pm

Also read yesterday Anthony Morrow supposedly wants to see how the market unfolds first, aka wont sign til Melo/Bron ink their deals if that report is right
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Post#591 » by mopper8 » Tue Jul 8, 2014 1:59 pm

So will today be the day?
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Post#592 » by MiaFLSurf » Tue Jul 8, 2014 2:00 pm

If Riley is meeting Lebron today I hope we have one more move before meeting with him.


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Post#593 » by DefenseWins » Tue Jul 8, 2014 2:01 pm

Melo not holding out... A narrative by ESPN being spread by everyone


I can actually see him being a Laker tho. His wife couldn't mind either cause she does some Hollywood work anyway
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Post#594 » by Time4War » Tue Jul 8, 2014 2:02 pm

* The best starting five in the Lebron,Wade,Bosh era

* Will be one of the top versatile starting line ups next season

Chalmers
Wade
James
McRoberts
Bosh

Don't have to worry about Haslem broke jump shot
Don't have to worry about battier short ass

That Ginóbili Pass :o

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Post#595 » by Sonny Carson » Tue Jul 8, 2014 2:03 pm

Colin Cowherd: Melo's first choice...he wants to play with LeBron.
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Post#596 » by Sonny Carson » Tue Jul 8, 2014 2:05 pm

mopper8 wrote:So will today be the day?


Will he really announce on the day of the decision?

I think he'll let Riley know if he's staying or not. But wont announce till tomorrow.
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Post#597 » by mopper8 » Tue Jul 8, 2014 2:09 pm

Sonny Carson wrote:
mopper8 wrote:So will today be the day?


Will he really announce on the day of the decision?

I think he'll let Riley know if he's staying or not. But wont announce till tomorrow.


Thing is, I'm not sure he'll even announce. I wouldn't be surprised if its a lot like the Wade/Bosh in 2010 signings, or the McRoberts/Granger signings this year...press release to the media from the team, accompanied by quick leaks to friendly reporters, followed by a couple interviews in a few days. No big what-to-do about it.

If he commits, the Heat are going to want to go into overdrive real quick to lock in anyone else they need to, now that they can sell "Lebron has committed." And once that happens, word will get out quick anyway.
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Post#598 » by DefenseWins » Tue Jul 8, 2014 2:10 pm

mopper8 wrote:So will today be the day?



His camp thing is tomorrow, he would have to fly in Vegas tonight


I actually think after it's done he will push forward


Unless he lets people fly out to Vegas, and that's where that narrative comes from


Idk man idk, he hasn't even met with the Cavs face to face, I really hope he doesn't just go by his friends word (not even gonna call him his agent...)
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Post#599 » by mopper8 » Tue Jul 8, 2014 2:11 pm

Time4War wrote:* The best starting five in the Lebron,Wade,Bosh era

* Will be one of the top versatile starting line ups next season

Chalmers
Wade
James
McRoberts
Bosh

Don't have to worry about Haslem broke jump shot
Don't have to worry about battier short ass

That Ginóbili Pass :o

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That pass is sick. Agree about the starting 5, it'll be the first time this era where we will likely have a set starting 5 for the season. Which is kinda exciting. Have to see how the bench ultimately fills out but it has some potential too.
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Post#600 » by HeatNolesFan » Tue Jul 8, 2014 2:16 pm

While I agree McRoberts makes our starting 5 look a lot better, I would seriously hope we replace Chalmers. He can be good, but he's way too streaky and looks lost at times and can make some bonehead plays. There's a reason LeBron screams at him all the time, he sees the talent but also see the lack of basketball smarts to put it together.

If we bring him back, so be it, I'll trust in Riley and Spo but I sure do hope he doesn't come back.

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