KnicksGod wrote:suicidedeuce wrote:KnicksGod wrote:I definitely disagree with the idea that we can't do a traditional rebuild because we lack a 2016 pick. 1 pick is not make or break to that strategy working. If you got the top pick in the draft in 2015 and there's a surefire stud available, you'd be well on your way.
The fact that picks are hard to turn into great players kind of weighs against suicide's argument. 1 pick is not a huge piece of the overall puzzle.
Waitaminute.
So picks are hard to turn into great players?
Doesn't that reasoning apply to 2015?
Isn't that an argument against trying rebuild through the draft?
It is *an* argument against building through the draft. But it's not an argument that means building through the draft, and with cap space, is doomed to fail.
And not having a pick in one year certainly does not foreclose that as a viable path. What you'd essentially be saying is that the Spurs drafting Cory Joseph or James Anderson, or the Thunder/Sonics drafting Saer Sene, should have meant that their ability to contend was derailed. But we know that to not be the case.
Why are you and others making things up to argue against??
Impediment does not mean impossible.
No one has said you can't get fortunate and rebuild that way. The point is, if you're relying on the draft to find your star player, having 2 picks gives you better odds of getting that players, because as YOU noted, picking a winner in the draft is hard and uncertain.
This is a matter of what's the better of two imperfect options. I acknowledge fully and gladly it gets HARDER with Melo at the max. I don't think impossible, but I certainly admit more difficult.
Some of you guys, however, are performing logic gymnastics to avoid simply acknowledging you'd have a better shot at finding a stud player through the draft if you had 2016 pick along with a 2015 one.
Add to that, NO ONE is advocating trading away the 2015 pick in the melo plan. The Knicks still get to pick a player there. Yes, it won't be as HIGH as it would be otherwise, but again, you can't make the argument but then at the same time dismiss not having a 2016 pick at all.
None of you are real advocates of a draft rebuild plan if you're unwilling an unable to acknowledge the problems with it, in the way I can acknowledge melo at the max makes it more difficult than melo at a discount.
