MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude

[sol537]

Al Iannazzone ‏@Al_Iannazzone 1m

Phil Jackson just left the gym in Vegas without speaking to the media.

Something big is up. That's for damn sure.

something big is up because he left a gym without talking to the media? He's probably done that like, what, a billion times in his career?

[delvec19]

@DwainPrice: Felton talked to Melo about Melo joining the Mavs

why you fat little!

[mpharris36]

wtf is happening?

[LJ4pointplay]

BTW, in the scenario where we trade Bargs and Amare then buy out JR, we are left with
Calderon- 7 million
Ellington- 2.7 million
Dalambert- 2 million cap hit if cut
Artest- still on books for 2 million?

less than 14 million in salaries committed? Leaves us with almsot 50 million in space (we could create more through trades, other stretches, etc.). That is room for Melo and LeBron, about 7 or 8 million for Pau, then we have the trade exception to add someone.

My point is, if LeBron wants to come here it is happening. Its not IF we can do it, its IF LeBron wants it.

[mpharris36]

@DwainPrice: Felton talked to Melo about Melo joining the Mavs

why you fat little!

thanks for helping us out ray. The fact that felton and Tyson think they are boys with Melo is hilarious

[Mr Rabbit]

This is probably representative of the mental state of half the board

Why, Moo, whatever do you mean?

[kosmovitelli]

By the way, we could also trade Amare, Bargs, Shump, THJ (total about 38 million), (picks, whatever) and 3 million cash to the Sixers for J-Rich (6.5 million- one year remaining), and it would either work or come awfully close to working under the cap. We could then stretch J-Rich and clear about 33 million off our books in one trade.

From the Sixers side they add two young players, possibly draft picks, the ownership only loses a little over 3 million out of pocket, and no long term salary is taken on outside of THJ.

That's a dream but Philly isn't exactly the garbage disposal of the Knicks.

About Lin, I think the Rockets have a pretty huge advantage. Lin counts for $8 million against the cap but he will be paid $15 million. Teams are supposed to meet a minimum payroll (not team salary). Basically the full $15 million of Lin's salary is on the payroll but it only counts for $8 million against the cap. The Sixers already have $31 million and if you add $15 mil then that's $46 mil and you're pretty close to the minimum salary floor. They'd just need to sign a free agent or make a minor trade .

I'm still sceptic Knicks can trade Amare. And if Phil can dump Amare and Bargnani for cap space then he's instantly GM of the year ! Pretty much impossible. Even if Philly has incentives to trade cap space for expiring contracts, they just can do it with every team in the league. Not just Knicks (Amare) and Rockets (Lin). Teams usually need to pay a premium for cap space and I don't think it has changed.

About the minimum team's payroll, the eventual shortfall is calculated at the end of the season so the Sixers have enough time to meet the floor....

[moocow007]

Would you guys unload Hardaway, Shumpert, Larkin and Early if it meant moving both Bargnani and Stoudemire and landing Lebron and Gasol?

[kane]

I still say melo holding out has nothing to do with lebron or bosh he just wants to keep pressure on Phil to keep making moves so next year isn't just a throw away season

If melo were to go to Miami he would have to take the paycut the heat are expecting bosh to take, and is the even a guarantee winning team? You could argue that it's a worse lineup then last years team witch almost got swept out of the finales

Melo is way better than Bosh and fits better with Lebron. I honestly can't think of 2 players better suited for each other. That being said, with a broken down Wade, they need alot more help than just McRoberts and Ray Allen. They just dont have enough size.

Right they lack size and now you want to get rid of their only big? At least bosh can fill in at center, of course melo and lebron would complement each other but that's not what I'm talking about....

[LJ4pointplay]

Yeah, in this hypothetical I guess it doesn't matter where Bosh ends up or whether they are trying to move Lin to PHI. We could (and would) simply offer more to PHI to take on Bargs and STAT than what HOU would be offering them to take on Lin.

Exactly, if LeBron is on the table we would throw everything we have at them.

[liknicks7]

@DwainPrice: Felton talked to Melo about Melo joining the Mavs

why you fat little!

There's been alot of funny ish on this board recently but this, this...takes the cake.

[Johnny Hoops]

At this point im not sure if its a good thing that Melo is taking so long or not. Losing Melo will be devastating.

If you're a Melo fan before you're a Knick fan, sure it will be devestating.

Very good point on Melo vs. Knick fan --- I just want a decision --- large part of me could care less if Melo is here or not. Outstanding player? Yes Do I need him to be optimistic about my Knicks? No - not in the least.

That said - come on Melo -- lets make a call either way.

[giantsx6]

@DwainPrice: Felton talked to Melo about Melo joining the Mavs

why you fat little!

[mpharris36]

BTW, in the scenario where we trade Bargs and Amare then buy out JR, we are left with
Calderon- 7 million
Ellington- 2.7 million
Dalambert- 2 million cap hit if cut
Artest- still on books for 2 million?

less than 14 million in salaries committed? Leaves us with almsot 50 million in space (we could create more through trades, other stretches, etc.). That is room for Melo and LeBron, about 7 or 8 million for Pau, then we have the trade exception to add someone.

My point is, if LeBron wants to come here it is happening. Its not IF we can do it, its IF LeBron wants it.

you would have to renounce the trade exemption if you wanted the cap space.

what we would have is the room exemption along with the 48 million or so in space.

I would allow Melo and LeBron at 20 million Pau at 5-6 (with the cap holds)

Then a room exemption of approx 3 million to bring in another player

[Forbes]

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[sol537]

Would you guys unload Hardaway, Shumpert, Larkin and Early if it meant moving both Bargnani and Stoudemire and landing Lebron and Gasol?

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[K_ick_God]

Would you guys unload Hardaway, Shumpert, Larkin and Early if it meant moving both Bargnani and Stoudemire and landing Lebron and Gasol?

No-brainer. Hopefully Phil could keep one or two prospects and one pick (2018 or 2020).

[Thugger HBC]

Would you guys unload Hardaway, Shumpert, Larkin and Early if it meant moving both Bargnani and Stoudemire and landing Lebron and Gasol?

Yup. Sorry kids, grown folks talking.

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[Starksfor3]

Would you guys unload Hardaway, Shumpert, Larkin and Early if it meant moving both Bargnani and Stoudemire and landing Lebron and Gasol?

I think that's a no brainer. If you have a chance to get the best player in the world, you do it.

[delvec19]

Would you guys unload Hardaway, Shumpert, Larkin and Early if it meant moving both Bargnani and Stoudemire and landing Lebron and Gasol?

Abso-****ing-lutely