Bucks looking at Bledsoe, probably.

[Badgerlander]

Philly is already tanking
the Knicks could lose Melo
the Nets could lose The Truth+KG
Boston could trade Rondo
the Magic dumped Jameer+Afflalo
the T'Wolves could trade Love
the Cavs lose Deng+Hawes
Utah loses RJ+Marvin

[Ron Swanson]

What's really comical is that very few of you Bledsoe devotees have ever seen him play, except for a few u-tube highlights. And that's ok if his production was outstanding and you relied on that. But the love for a player who has produced very little and is very injury prone is cult-like. My guess is that if Brandon Knight played for a team in the West, you'd feel the same way about him, since he has produced similar numbers in fewer years of playing.

No........he hasn't

Bledsoe: 19.4 PPG, 6 AST, 5 RB, 1.8 STL, 0.4 BLK, 48% FG, 36% 3PT, 58% TS

Knight: 19.4 PPG, 5 AST, 4 RB, 1 STL, 0.2 BLK, 42% FG, 32% 3PT, 52% TS

Their raw scoring numbers are the only thing that is similar. So if all you care about is PPGz, and completely ignore efficiency, then yeah.....they're similar.

[LedZepp007]

What's really comical is that very few of you Bledsoe devotees have ever seen him play, except for a few u-tube highlights.

Okay, no.

And that's ok if his production was outstanding and you relied on that. But the love for a player who has produced very little and is very injury prone is cult-like. My guess is that if Brandon Knight played for a team in the West, you'd feel the same way about him, since he has produced similar numbers in fewer years of playing.

17/5/4
6th amongst PGs in TS%
8th in PER
4th in rebounding rate

What are you even talking about

But, but.... PPGz! From when he was backing up Chris Paul!

[KidA24]

were gonna be bottom 10 for sure. I don't see the point of splitting hairs about whether its still bottom 5 or not.

Hi there, GoS, let me introduce you to saveourbucks.com, and the research done on the importance of top 5 picks:
http://saveourbucks.com/the-importance-of-a-top-5-pick/

[LedZepp007]

By the way, bored and looking at basketball reference. Looking at On/Off splits. Guess, who rose to the top? Nate Wolters (+11.5), Giannis Antetokoumpo (+7.1). Bringing up the back are O.J. Mayo (-7.9) and Gary Neal (-7.6). And... no one is shocked (except Larry Drew).

[BigO]

What's really comical is that very few of you Bledsoe devotees have ever seen him play, except for a few u-tube highlights. And that's ok if his production was outstanding and you relied on that. But the love for a player who has produced very little and is very injury prone is cult-like. My guess is that if Brandon Knight played for a team in the West, you'd feel the same way about him, since he has produced similar numbers in fewer years of playing.

You're not off to the best start here, Big O. I wouldn't be making wild accusations like "very few of you have ever seen him play." This forum collectively watches a sh*t ton of NBA basketball. Way more than just the Bucks.

Since Phoenix was rarely on tv in Wisconsin, I seriously doubt it. And if that's the case, then that's even more of an indictement on your judgement.

[Mags FTW]

You're not off to the best start here, Big O. I wouldn't be making wild accusations like "very few of you have ever seen him play." This forum collectively watches a sh*t ton of NBA basketball. Way more than just the Bucks.

Since Phoenix was rarely on tv in Wisconsin, I seriously doubt it.

Ever heard of League Pass?

[JimmyTheKid]

What's really comical is that very few of you Bledsoe devotees have ever seen him play, except for a few u-tube highlights. And that's ok if his production was outstanding and you relied on that. But the love for a player who has produced very little and is very injury prone is cult-like. My guess is that if Brandon Knight played for a team in the West, you'd feel the same way about him, since he has produced similar numbers in fewer years of playing.

You're not off to the best start here, Big O. I wouldn't be making wild accusations like "very few of you have ever seen him play." This forum collectively watches a sh*t ton of NBA basketball. Way more than just the Bucks.

Since Phoenix was rarely on tv in Wisconsin, I seriously doubt it. And if that's the case, then that's even more of an indictement on your judgement.

Heard of NBA League Pass?

I didn't watch 82 Phoenix Suns games last season but I've seen enough of Eric Bledsoe to have my own opinion. I do think its adorable that you're a little fight picker.

[pilprin]

Bledsoe is negotiating with he Suns...Vasquez with he Raptors, and Lin appears headed to Philly. So what are the other options out there? Teague? Sessions?

[Bernman]

when was the last time or even how many times..... has a team gone from worst in the league to outside of the bottom 10 the next?

has it ever happened without the addition of a clearcut HOF superstar in the equation?

That's a ridiculously small sample which fits all the qualifiers you've conveniently included to make it tough to satisfy. We're talking about like 35-40 very worst teams even if you go all the way back to 1980, and then if you were the very worst typically you've added a future star the next year as a result. Most expect Parker to be that type of player. Ray Allen will be a hall of famer, and I think that's a reasonable level of play expectation for the #2 pick in an outstanding draft. Ray was #5 in his. Speaking of which, I'll get back to the importance and efficacy of specifically top 5 picks later.

Anyway, going back to just the start of the 2000's, and looking at teams who've went from very worst to a #10 draft pick or lower....

Golden State went from tied for worst to #11 in '03
Denver tied for worst to #19 in '04
Cleveland tied for worst to #10 pick in '04
Orlando worst to #11 pick in '05
Miami from worst to #18 in '09
Minnesota from worst to #10 in '12

Besides, top 5 pick, and top 10 pick, is far from "splitting hairs" historically. Compare our own picks from 6-10 and 1-5, and there is a huge difference. Top 5's were Ray, Glenn, Bogut, etc. 6-10 were Alexander, Yi, Traylor, Baddy, etc. lol And to even probably get a top 5 pick, we need to finish in the bottom 3. That would be a challenge even without Sanders, with better young players than other possibly tanking/crap teams like Philly, New York, Boston, Detroit, and Orlando. That's not to mention the west with Minnesota, LA, and Utah. The reality is, we probably don't end up with a top 5 pick regardless next year, and maybe top 10 as presently constituted, yet some people don't want to add a relatively young core player, and even want to give up one in Sanders to boot to take gambles on probable 6-10 picks which haven't worked out well for us in recent years as previously illustrated. In spite of the different circumstance now with a core of young players, many are still stuck in the old mindset of the last ten years for the Bucks to TANK! more, but ironic that would now be yours when you defended decisions to make the team mediocre long-term with veterans under the previous proven horrible owner, instead of short-term with young players who have upside under the new owner. So I guess for you, you just like to go against whatever conventional wisdom is here.

[yoshii8]

Bledsoe is negotiating with he Suns...Vasquez with he Raptors, and Lin appears headed to Philly. So what are the other options out there? Teague? Sessions?

Isaiah Thomas or Jimmer Fredette

[BigO]

What's really comical is that very few of you Bledsoe devotees have ever seen him play, except for a few u-tube highlights. And that's ok if his production was outstanding and you relied on that. But the love for a player who has produced very little and is very injury prone is cult-like. My guess is that if Brandon Knight played for a team in the West, you'd feel the same way about him, since he has produced similar numbers in fewer years of playing.

No........he hasn't

Bledsoe: 19.4 PPG, 6 AST, 5 RB, 1.8 STL, 0.4 BLK, 48% FG, 36% 3PT, 58% TS

Knight: 19.4 PPG, 5 AST, 4 RB, 1 STL, 0.2 BLK, 42% FG, 32% 3PT, 52% TS

Their raw scoring numbers are the only thing that is similar. So if all you care about is PPGz, and completely ignore efficiency, then yeah.....they're similar.

Lets see. Same points, same rebounds, same assists and now you want to look DEEPER. And all you can come up with is his efficiency, especially as a shooter. This, despite the fact, that even many of his supporters and almost all the analysts, admit that Knight is the much better shooter. Knight, on the team he was on last year, could not be efficient. He had to take tons of shots at the end of the shot clock because he was the only one who could create his shot. I'm not saying Knight is a great player. Only that all of you are drooling over Bledsoe and have nothing to point to that shows greatness.
Bledsoe and Knight are very alike. Bledsoe may be marginally better, but not to the extent all of you are making him out to be. The guy is going into his fifth year and with his meager production, you're all slobbering over him. Laughable.

[bango_the_buck]

What's really comical is that very few of you Bledsoe devotees have ever seen him play, except for a few u-tube highlights. And that's ok if his production was outstanding and you relied on that. But the love for a player who has produced very little and is very injury prone is cult-like. My guess is that if Brandon Knight played for a team in the West, you'd feel the same way about him, since he has produced similar numbers in fewer years of playing.

No........he hasn't

Bledsoe: 19.4 PPG, 6 AST, 5 RB, 1.8 STL, 0.4 BLK, 48% FG, 36% 3PT, 58% TS

Knight: 19.4 PPG, 5 AST, 4 RB, 1 STL, 0.2 BLK, 42% FG, 32% 3PT, 52% TS

Their raw scoring numbers are the only thing that is similar. So if all you care about is PPGz, and completely ignore efficiency, then yeah.....they're similar.

There's no question that Bledsoe's numbers are better across the board, but let's not pretend that they are astronomically better. Given that Knight has improved each and every year he has been in the league, I could easily see him putting up similar (or better) stats than Bledsoe did this year by the time he is 24.

Just going by the numbers there's no way I'd say Bledsoe is a max player and Knight is poop.

[driese0824]

Bledsoe is negotiating with he Suns...Vasquez with he Raptors, and Lin appears headed to Philly. So what are the other options out there? Teague? Sessions?

Isaiah Thomas or Jimmer Fredette

I.thomas had a pretty good year I know it's my opinion but he's not a bad pg.

[Sky Bucks]

Bledsoe is negotiating with he Suns...Vasquez with he Raptors, and Lin appears headed to Philly. So what are the other options out there? Teague? Sessions?

If that happens the bucks should do a fire sale and tank hard core

[Wooderson]

[
There's no question that Bledsoe's numbers are better across the board, but let's not pretend that they are astronomically better. Given that Knight has improved each and every year he has been in the league, I could easily see him putting up similar (or better) stats than Bledsoe did this year by the time he is 24.

Just going by the numbers there's no way I'd say Bledsoe is a max player and Knight is poop.

Bledsoe has an enormous edge defensively to go along with his superior offense.

[jr lucosa]

I.thomas had a pretty good year I know it's my opinion but he's not a bad pg.

Thomas is going to get paid handsomely though. I doubt he'll come much cheaper than Bledsoe.

[ReasonablySober]

What's really comical is that very few of you Bledsoe devotees have ever seen him play, except for a few u-tube highlights. And that's ok if his production was outstanding and you relied on that. But the love for a player who has produced very little and is very injury prone is cult-like. My guess is that if Brandon Knight played for a team in the West, you'd feel the same way about him, since he has produced similar numbers in fewer years of playing.

No........he hasn't

Bledsoe: 19.4 PPG, 6 AST, 5 RB, 1.8 STL, 0.4 BLK, 48% FG, 36% 3PT, 58% TS

Knight: 19.4 PPG, 5 AST, 4 RB, 1 STL, 0.2 BLK, 42% FG, 32% 3PT, 52% TS

Their raw scoring numbers are the only thing that is similar. So if all you care about is PPGz, and completely ignore efficiency, then yeah.....they're similar.

Lets see. Same points, same rebounds, same assists and now you want to look DEEPER. And all you can come up with is his efficiency, especially as a shooter. This, despite the fact, that even many of his supporters and almost all the analysts, admit that Knight is the much better shooter. Knight, on the team he was on last year, could not be efficient. He had to take tons of shots at the end of the shot clock because he was the only one who could create his shot. I'm not saying Knight is a great player. Only that all of you are drooling over Bledsoe and have nothing to point to that shows greatness.
Bledsoe and Knight are very alike. Bledsoe may be marginally better, but not to the extent all of you are making him out to be. The guy is going into his fifth year and with his meager production, you're all slobbering over him. Laughable.

WHAT MEAGER PRODUCTION oh wait we're being trolled dammit.

[Baddy Chuck]

If efficiency doesn't matter we might as well have kept Brandon Jennings. He has better career numbers than both.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

when was the last time or even how many times..... has a team gone from worst in the league to outside of the bottom 10 the next?

has it ever happened without the addition of a clearcut HOF superstar in the equation?

I don't want to spend the time to look, but I am guessing it has happened dozens of times. I don't think we will be outside the top 10, but there is a big difference between bottom 5 and 6-10 most years. I think we for sure win over 25 games next year though.

12/13.. Orlando....20 wins.... 23 the next year (3rd worst in the league)
11/12.. Charlotte...7 wins.... 21 the next year (2nd worst)
10/11.. Minnesota.. 17 wins...26 the next year (10th worst)
09/10.. New Jersey..12 wins...24 the next year (6th worst)
08/09.. Sacramento..17 wins...25 the next year (3rd worst)
07/08.. Miami...... 15 wins....43 the next year (17th worst)
06/07.. Memphis... 2 wins... 22 the next year (3rd worst)
05/06.. Portland...21 wins... 32 wins the next year (7th worst)
04/05.. Atlanta.... 13 wins.... 26 wins the next year (3rd worst)
03/04.. Orlando....21 wins ... 36 wins the next year (10th worst)
02/03.. Cleveland....17 wins.. 35 wins the next year (9th worst)
01/02.. Chicago.... 21 wins.... 30 wins the next year (7th worst)

yeah... so if parker isn't a rookie LeBron, howard, or a prime wade.... id say its a safe assumption to suggest were gonna be pretty closely parked in that bottom 5-7 again. not a guarantee, but pretty hard to argue against it if we don't see some additional roster moves that make it pretty clear were trying to win more games immediately.