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MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude

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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1161 » by suicidedeuce » Wed Jul 9, 2014 12:05 am

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This is SD just being stubborn (this is pride on his part, but a 100% false assertion). The CBA provision was cited showing, very clearly, that if Riley made verbal promises (or even just a verbal statement implying his intent to the agent) to induce Wade and Bosh to opt out, it would violate the CBA.

No ifs, ands or buts.


"Dwayne, Chris, Lebron. We value you and hope you remain Heat for life. Whether you choose not to exercise your ETO or exercise it and become a free agent, we want you to know we're prepared to do whatever it takes so that you remain a member of our family, individually or as a group.

You think that's illegal?


CBA:

Section 2. No Unauthorized Agreements.

(a) At no time shall there be any agreements or transactions of any kind (whether disclosed or undisclosed to the NBA), express or implied, oral or written, or promises, undertakings, representations, commitments, inducements, assurances of intent, or understandings of any kind (whether disclosed or undisclosed to the NBA), between a player (or any person or entity controlled by, related to, or acting with authority on behalf of, such player) and any Team (or Team Affiliate):

(i) concerning any future Renegotiation, Extension, or other amendment of an existing Player Contract, or entry into a new Player Contract;

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(c) A violation of Section 2(a) or 2(b) above may be proven by director circumstantial evidence, including, but not limited to, evidence that a Player Contract or any term or provision thereof cannot rationally be explained in the absence of conduct violative of Section 2(a) or 2(b).




Case closed.

And as a footnote, the "cannot rationally be explained" does provide a kind of "right mind" test. The NBA could simply say that a player coming off Wade's Finals appearance could not rationally be expected to earn $42 million over the next two years, and/or would not seemingly forfeit all or a large share of that money without an assurance.


Why are you arguing over something you KNOW has NEVER been enforced and you yourself are arguing won't be enforced.

As I've previously explained, rules are less about what's written and more about what's enforced.

And you don't understand the rationally explained threshold.

"We REALLY like Dwayne Wade as a person and a professional and we choose to use our available cap space to rewards him for his service satisfies the threshold."

'Rationally explained' doesn't mean wise, smart, or astute. It just means you need A reason. Rewarding Dwayne Wade for this tenure as a member of the team with available cap space is a REASON. And that's ALL you need.

But yes, keep arguing for a violation YOU KNOW won't be enforced. That's always a good look.
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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1162 » by duetta » Wed Jul 9, 2014 12:05 am

AmazingJason wrote:Robert Randolph keeps posting about Melo/Gasol/LeBron because Phil is trying to make it happen. But that's a lot to ask for a 1st time executive: find trade partners for both Amare & Bargnani, convincing Melo to stay, then convincing James to come. LBJ doesn't have the courage to play in a market like NYC.


You're probably right that Phil is attempting this - but the Knicks with Anthony, Lebron and Gasol would be significantly weaker than the Miami big three. And, once again, the Knicks would have little if anything later to use to improve their teammates. Bosh completely gave up his game to make the Big 3 work. I can't imagine Anthony doing that, or Gasol staying healthy. He missed roughly 50 games over the past two seasons, and he's only getting older.
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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1163 » by AmazingJason » Wed Jul 9, 2014 12:05 am

east wrote:In before inevitable heartbreaking disappointment. After all, we're Knicks fans.


Why? Melo and Gasol are a good get. The East will also be wide open.

Gasol
Melo
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vs.

Varejao
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Wiggins
Irving

7 games? Most likely.
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Post#1164 » by omerome » Wed Jul 9, 2014 12:05 am

east wrote:In before inevitable heartbreaking disappointment. After all, we're Knicks fans.

Your avatar fits the likely situation perfectly.
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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1165 » by ITGM » Wed Jul 9, 2014 12:06 am

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Felton: Hello Melo this is Raymond

Melo's phone: click

Felton: Hello, Melo you still there?......



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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1166 » by Ray Finkle » Wed Jul 9, 2014 12:06 am

Galvationknicks wrote:Stfu and gtfo ray


whoa.


kill yourself.
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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1167 » by liknicks7 » Wed Jul 9, 2014 12:06 am

Way to go Melo/Lebron, couldn't make a decision and now they're closing Crumb's. Where the fk am I gonna get fancy cupcakes now? Your actions have consequences. No one likes store bought cupcakes. Now I gotta buy a 4 pack n ish.
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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1168 » by giantsx6 » Wed Jul 9, 2014 12:07 am

AmazingJason wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
Capn'O wrote: :lol:


how did this happen ?


Carl has made us all go psycho.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&persist_app=1&v=nbWtUiqPQTw
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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1169 » by AllanHoustonFan » Wed Jul 9, 2014 12:07 am

NYKNICKPLAYA wrote:Phil should tell Robert Randolph to STFU though.

Phil probably doesn't even know he exist.
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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1170 » by suicidedeuce » Wed Jul 9, 2014 12:07 am

Ray Finkle wrote:
Galvationknicks wrote:Stfu and gtfo ray


whoa.


kill yourself.


It's their idea of hazing.

Every new poster gets it.
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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1171 » by drat456 » Wed Jul 9, 2014 12:07 am

This guy pretty much banking on lebron to Cleveland

https://mobile.twitter.com/Josh_Tep/tweets
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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1172 » by Ray Finkle » Wed Jul 9, 2014 12:08 am

suicidedeuce wrote:
Ray Finkle wrote:
Galvationknicks wrote:Stfu and gtfo ray


whoa.


kill yourself.


It's their idea of hazing.

Every new poster gets it.


figured :lol:
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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1173 » by Lord Commander » Wed Jul 9, 2014 12:08 am

Y'all just don't know how many times I'ma jizz my pants if any of this Carl shyt is true.
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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1174 » by postcall » Wed Jul 9, 2014 12:08 am

Is it possible that "Carl" is The Garden ....if so bravo sir your vengence is complete you have up and subsequently crushed the dreams and hopes of this fanbase. You have won sir!
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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1175 » by Galvationknicks » Wed Jul 9, 2014 12:09 am

Ray Finkle wrote:
Galvationknicks wrote:Stfu and gtfo ray


whoa.


kill yourself.

Guess you wasnt a full time lurker like me
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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1176 » by Ray Finkle » Wed Jul 9, 2014 12:10 am

ToHoleWithSoul wrote:Y'all just don't know how many times I'ma jizz my pants if any of this Carl shyt is true.


I just can't imagine that it is. Seems so far-fetched to me. But I want it so badly. So badly.
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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1177 » by The Infamous1 » Wed Jul 9, 2014 12:10 am

LBJ is waiting for Bosh to leave. Then Melo will sign there. It gets more obvious the longer they wait. I dont think Melo makes the Heat better but Im starting to think thats what happens.
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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1178 » by AllanHoustonFan » Wed Jul 9, 2014 12:11 am

drat456 wrote:This guy pretty much banking on lebron to Cleveland

https://mobile.twitter.com/Josh_Tep/tweets

Who is Josh Tep
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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1179 » by AmazingJason » Wed Jul 9, 2014 12:11 am

duetta wrote:
AmazingJason wrote:Robert Randolph keeps posting about Melo/Gasol/LeBron because Phil is trying to make it happen. But that's a lot to ask for a 1st time executive: find trade partners for both Amare & Bargnani, convincing Melo to stay, then convincing James to come. LBJ doesn't have the courage to play in a market like NYC.


You're probably right that Phil is attempting this - but the Knicks with Anthony, Lebron and Gasol would be significantly weaker than the Miami big three. And, once again, the Knicks would have little if anything later to use to improve their teammates. Bosh completely gave up his game to make the Big 3 work. I can't imagine Anthony doing that, or Gasol staying healthy. He missed roughly 50 games over the past two seasons, and he's only getting older.


With Miami dismantled, this is a guaranteed Finals team in the East.

Gasol isn't Bosh, but Wade is essentially finished as a productive playoff performer. LeBron is not a natural scorer; he is a PG in a PF's body, and Melo is the dominant scorer he always wanted - think Jordan and Pippen.

It fits pretty well. Gasol's best position is C. Melo's best position is PF. LeBron's best position is SF. We have a plethora of guards.
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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1180 » by Mr Rabbit » Wed Jul 9, 2014 12:11 am

Ray Finkle wrote:
suicidedeuce wrote:
Ray Finkle wrote:
whoa.


kill yourself.


It's their idea of hazing.

Every new poster gets it.


figured :lol:

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