Bucks looking at Bledsoe, probably.

[Scoops]

We have a Knicks board level of homerism going on in regards to how good these two will be next year.

So we have Knicks level homerism because we expect the Bucks to be at 25+ wins? Hmm. That's really fascinating.

Fascinating is those people that expect Jabariannis to be the focal point on a 30 win team.

Jabari struggled in the ACC and now he's going to carry the load for an NBA team? 20 ppg? No way. Down the road, sure, but not at 19/20 years old.

Giannis showed flashes of being a very good player but could barely put together a full game of consistently good play let alone a season. He shot 40% last year as the last option on the team and now were going to run the offense through him and not expect him to struggle?

With Knight aka Tank Commander MVP from last year running the show.

And 25 wins would have netted us a top 5 pick last year FYI. So if that's your expectation I guess we're on the same page.

[Baddy Chuck]

How do people rate Bledsoes court-vision? I havent seen him as much as yall.

Pretty average, but he also doesn't have the other traits that make a guy like Knight an awful point guard.

[thomchatt3rton]

How do people rate Bledsoes court-vision? I havent seen him as much as yall.

Pretty average, but he also doesn't have the other traits that make a guy like Knight an awful point guard.

Such as...?



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[Baddy Chuck]

How do people rate Bledsoes court-vision? I havent seen him as much as yall.

Pretty average, but he also doesn't have the other traits that make a guy like Knight an awful point guard.

Such as...?

Tunnel vision and horrible shot selection.

[WeekapaugGroove]

How do people rate Bledsoes court-vision? I havent seen him as much as yall.

Pretty average, but he also doesn't have the other traits that make a guy like Knight an awful point guard.

I'm not sure it's really a vision thing with him because he seems to find guys well when he wants to. IMO his worst habit is he has possessions where he predetermines that he wants to drive and try to score or get fouled and doesn't take what the defense gives him, this leads to some silly turnovers. I think it's pretty common with young guys like him who are great at getting to the hole and haven't developed the patience yet.

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[Chuck Diesel]

Question- Do JabariGiannis combine to outscore rookie Kevin Durant & Jeff Green's 30.8 points per game?

[theFireBlanket]

Lebron's agent informed us we are out of the running; he told the Suns because of the Bledsoe situation. I don't know about a meeting today. I was told the agent called last night and the Suns were out of it. Maybe they met today -- sometimes things are not that way. Ray Ray can comment on that better than I can I guess.

The thing about the current management is they talk to the media (a choice few). They just do so confidentially. And if you burn them then you are black-listed from the processes. It's a smart way to do business. The current management doesn't play a lot of the 'leaked' info games, etc.

The Suns are working a three team deal once things settle. I know because I am familiar with a team that was contacted in it and declined to be involved. Don't know what happened after that.

I just knew we were not getting Lebron. And I know the Pacers and Celtics were in conversations with the Suns.

Bledsoe is going to get his offer sheet soon too. He's a max. Teams asking about S&T were told no unless a star is coming back. But that was as of last week (Friday) when I heard that.

No way the Bucks are getting Bledsoe then.

[BigO]

Pretty average, but he also doesn't have the other traits that make a guy like Knight an awful point guard.

Such as..?

Tunnel vision and horrible shot selection.

This says it all. Bledsoe admittedly has average (I'd say below average) court vision. His assists, even on a team which was much better offensively than the Bucks, was the same as knight and yet he is somehow head and shoulders above knight. Knight is not an awful point guard. He is decent and getting better.

It is clear that facts and performance are not important to some of the posters. Paying someone with Bledsoe's mediocre history of average stats and injuries is just a repeat of prior Buck's mistakes. Hammond is a good drafter, but a bad evaluator of free agents. The Bucks need a guard who knows how to get other players involved. That may not be Knight, but it certainly isn't Bledsoe. You pour that much money into Bledsoe and you hamstring yourself for several years in getting a true facilitator. Have some patience.

[Baddy Chuck]

His assists, even on a team which was much better offensively than the Bucks, was the same as knight and yet he is somehow head and shoulders above knight.

Raw stats tell about 1/10th of the story. Jennings scored more points and dished out more assists than both at their peak and overall, is he a better point guard?

[thomchatt3rton]

Pretty average, but he also doesn't have the other traits that make a guy like Knight an awful point guard.

Such as...?

Tunnel vision and horrible shot selection.

Id argue that both those things are symptoms of bad court vision, not separate traits. No one with tunnel vision could be said to have good court vision, for example. Bad shot selection is poor vision + selfishness.
But i dnt want to split hairs.

Idk how i feel about maxin' bledsoe. Im suspicious. BUT i do also agree w an earlier post of yours saying its really not that big of a gamble, provided we dnt have a bunch of other crap.




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[WRau1]

I'd offer the Suns Ersan for Bogdanovic after they match a max for Bledsoe.

[skones]

Pretty average, but he also doesn't have the other traits that make a guy like Knight an awful point guard.

Such as...?

Tunnel vision and horrible shot selection.

Bledsoe's vision is pretty poor.

[theFireBlanket]

Question- Do JabariGiannis combine to outscore rookie Kevin Durant & Jeff Green's 30.8 points per game?

Depends on the makeup of the roster and how J Kidd utilizes them. Do they really compare to KD and Green though? Green was considerably older than either and came into the league with 3 years of college experience. And Giannis will be in his 2nd NBA season, despite his younger age.

I think they're capable of topping that duo's PPG output for their first season together but it doesn't mean that they necessarily will.

[El Duderino]

Man this forum never ceases to amaze me in it's activity.

A thread which now has reached 62 pages and still going strong over a guy like Blledsoe who at best has a very slim chance of ending up on the Bucks.

I'd love to see it actually happen, but even saying a 5% chance is probably being generous.

[milweskee]

Question- Do JabariGiannis combine to outscore rookie Kevin Durant & Jeff Green's 30.8 points per game?

Depends on the makeup of the roster and how J Kidd utilizes them. Do they really compare to KD and Green though? Green was considerably older than either and came into the league with 3 years of college experience. And Giannis will be in his 2nd NBA season, despite his younger age.

I think they're capable of topping that duo's PPG output for their first season together but it doesn't mean that they necessarily will.

Bold statement.

I say yes.

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[theFireBlanket]

Man this forum never ceases to amaze me in it's activity.

A thread which now has reached 62 pages and still going strong over a guy like Blledsoe who at best has a very slim chance of ending up on the Bucks.

I'd love to see it actually happen, but even saying a 5% chance is probably being generous.

The Suns forum insider says that PHX wants a star in return in any S&T, as they consider him worthy of his max level. So I'd rate the chances at nil, *unless the Bucks aren't willing to do anything stupid to obtain him.

[Baddy Chuck]

Bledsoe's vision is pretty poor.

And Wiggins can't shoot or dribble, we're just not going to agree on this subject. He's not Steve Nash but I surely don't think he's a detriment.

[TroyD92]

Such as..?

Tunnel vision and horrible shot selection.

This says it all. Bledsoe admittedly has average (I'd say below average) court vision. His assists, even on a team which was much better offensively than the Bucks, was the same as knight and yet he is somehow head and shoulders above knight. Knight is not an awful point guard. He is decent and getting better.

It is clear that facts and performance are not important to some of the posters. Paying someone with Bledsoe's mediocre history of average stats and injuries is just a repeat of prior Buck's mistakes. Hammond is a good drafter, but a bad evaluator of free agents. The Bucks need a guard who knows how to get other players involved. That may not be Knight, but it certainly isn't Bledsoe. You pour that much money into Bledsoe and you hamstring yourself for several years in getting a true facilitator. Have some patience.

Just so I'm clear you're willing to pay Knight 4/36 or 4/40, but not Bledose at 4/56?

[WeekapaugGroove]

I'd offer the Suns Ersan for Bogdanovic after they match a max for Bledsoe.

wouldn't shock me if a deal like that went down. Although I think the suns might be targeting Ryan Anderson first.

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[Chuck Diesel]

Suns deal I want is Alex Len, Bogdanovic & Archie Goodwin for Larry & Ersan.