Being the Best isn't good enough

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Team FULL of stars?

Yes, team full of stars. And when the stars aren't there, he comes up short. That's why he's 2 of 11 winning championships.

I agree man. Any player that can't win championships with Mo Williams or Big Z or Larry Hughes is definitely reliant on a team of stars.

Antawn Jamison, Shaq, Ben Wallace, Anderson Varejao, JJ Hickson, the 2nd best 3pt shooting team in the NBA, the best defense in the NBA ...

[PaulieWal]

Yes, team full of stars. And when the stars aren't there, he comes up short. That's why he's 2 of 11 winning championships.

I agree man. Any player that can't win championships with Mo Williams or Big Z or Larry Hughes is definitely reliant on a team of stars.

Antawn Jamison, Shaq, Ben Wallace, Anderson Varejao, JJ Hickson, the 2nd best 3pt shooting team in the NBA, the best defense in the NBA ...

Yes, how could I forget Shaq? I must have forgotten since Shaq only played one season there at age 37 when his body was breaking down, he only played in 52 games and set a new low for MPG at the time. Yes, that Shaq. Any more intellectually dishonest arguments from you?

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I agree man. Any player that can't win championships with Mo Williams or Big Z or Larry Hughes is definitely reliant on a team of stars.

Antawn Jamison, Shaq, Ben Wallace, Anderson Varejao, JJ Hickson, the 2nd best 3pt shooting team in the NBA, the best defense in the NBA ...

Yes, how could I forget Shaq? I must have forgotten since Shaq only played one season there at age 37 when his body was breaking down, he only played in 52 games and set a new low for MPG at the time. Yes, that Shaq. Any more intellectually dishonest arguments from you?

Every player listed would greatly improve this Heat team at the stage they were when they played with Lebron. Every single one of them.

[PaulieWal]

Antawn Jamison, Shaq, Ben Wallace, Anderson Varejao, JJ Hickson, the 2nd best 3pt shooting team in the NBA, the best defense in the NBA ...

Yes, how could I forget Shaq? I must have forgotten since Shaq only played one season there at age 37 when his body was breaking down, he only played in 52 games and set a new low for MPG at the time. Yes, that Shaq. Any more intellectually dishonest arguments from you?

Every player listed would greatly improve this Heat team at the stage they were when they played with Lebron. Every single one of them.

They *might* because James/Wade/Bosh are on it already. On a team led by LeBron and Mo Williams, those players don't add much because all the burden was already on LeBron. I gotta say, I am impressed by your trolling. I mean most people will bring up Shaq but then back-off when reminded he was 37, played 52 games and was breaking down physically.

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Yes, how could I forget Shaq? I must have forgotten since Shaq only played one season there at age 37 when his body was breaking down, he only played in 52 games and set a new low for MPG at the time. Yes, that Shaq. Any more intellectually dishonest arguments from you?

Every player listed would greatly improve this Heat team at the stage they were when they played with Lebron. Every single one of them.

They *might* because James/Wade/Bosh are on it already. On a team led by LeBron and Mo Williams, those players don't add much because all the burden was already on LeBron. I gotta say, I am impressed by your trolling. I mean most people will bring up Shaq but then back-off when reminded he was 37, played 52 games and was breaking down physically.

Breaking down, but still one of the better Cs in the game. The Cavs had tremendous front court depth, so guys playing limited minutes was hardly a big deal.

[GreenHat]

Team FULL of stars?

Yes, team full of stars. And when the stars aren't there, he comes up short. That's why he's 2 of 11 winning championships.

That's an incredibly pessimistic and unrealistic way of looking at things.

[mawan041]

^ Guys ignore this user, "contract", he's a troll.

[MaxPayne]

There are bandwagon fans everywhere, has been and always will be. A lot of fans in the NBA has more interest in players than their teams, it's just the way it is.If Spo left the Heat to coach for the Bobcats, HIF would jump on that wagon I guarantee you that.

There's nothing wrong with that, but let's not be hypocrites here lol.

I'm done, peace out!

[HIF]

There are bandwagon fans everywhere, has been and always will be. A lot of fans in the NBA has more interest in players than their teams, it's just the way it is.If Spo left the Heat to coach for the Bobcats, HIF would jump on that wagon I guarantee you that.

There's nothing wrong with that, but let's not be hypocrites here lol.

I'm done, peace out!

Fool. Don't believe the crap you read from Greenhat.

I've been with the Heat since day1.

I support Spo because he is our head Coach and gets stupid criticism from idiots who don't undertsand anything about coaching. Just as I supported Joel and EJ and Ricky Davis etc... when they got stupid comments from ignorant supporters

If he left, I'd still be a Heat fan.

[GreenHat]

There are bandwagon fans everywhere, has been and always will be. A lot of fans in the NBA has more interest in players than their teams, it's just the way it is.If Spo left the Heat to coach for the Bobcats, HIF would jump on that wagon I guarantee you that.

There's nothing wrong with that, but let's not be hypocrites here lol.

I'm done, peace out!

Fool. Don't believe the crap you read from Greenhat.

I've been with the Heat since day1.

I support Spo because he is our head Coach and gets stupid criticism from idiots who don't undertsand anything about coaching. Just as I supported Joel and EJ and Ricky Davis etc... when they got stupid comments from ignorant supporters

If he left, I'd still be a Heat fan.

People believe what I write because I back it up with evidence. You should try it some time.

So why don't you support Lebron as strongly as you support Spo? You've been the loudest part of the stupid comments from ignorant supporters.

And its impossible for you to have been with the Heat since day1 according to your own logic. You're join date is in the 2004 not in the 80s.

[SJSF]

As a non Heat and LeBron fan. It's pretty sad that LeBron doesn't think 2titles in 4years isn't good enough. If he is chasing titles, then he should take less money like a Duncan or Dirk is doing. But with the current CBA you can't have it both ways. The current stars of today are nothing like the greats of yester year. Would Jordan or Bird of done this? If your the best proof it. Right now to me LeBron is showing weakness trying to surround himself with the most help he can just to catch Kobe, Duncan, Bird and MJ. But I do believe he will never be remember as in their class. Just my opinion

[HIF]

You are a fool.

People don't believe you, many see you as a boring naysayer.

Your facts are usually stats, Stats can be used to prove anything. Some of us use our eyes and feelings and don't see the need to trawl for stats to prove what we say - we don't lack the confidence that you do.

And yes I do support Spo more than Lebron I don't lie about my feelings the way you do. I support most heat players more than Lebron but whilst he is Heat I support him more than other players.He really doesn't ,eed my support, he has you and the Lebronees to support him.

Maybe ask Dan Marino if I was around when the Heat began.

You're a tool and on ignore list now, so no point trolling me anymore.

[GreenHat]

You are a fool.

People don't believe you, many see you as a boring naysayer.

Your facts are usually stats, Stats can be used to prove anything. Some of us use our eyes and feelings and don't see the need to trawl for stats to prove what we say - we don't lack the confidence that you do.

And yes I do support Spo more than Lebron I don't lie about my feelings the way you do. I support most heat players more than Lebron but whilst he is Heat I support him more than other players.He really doesn't ,eed my support, he has you and the Lebronees to support him.

Maybe ask Dan Marino if I was around when the Heat began.

You're a tool and on ignore list now, so no point trolling me anymore.

Again I am the naysayer but I am the one being more positive about the Lebron situation. You are the one with the non-stop hate for him.

I'm glad you can finally admit that I use facts and you use feelings and emotions as evidence.

Also this is hilarious:

And yes I do support Spo more than Lebron I don't lie about my feelings the way you do.

I have never "trolled" you but it will make my life a lot easier without having to respond to your ridiculous responses.

[SweetTouch]

Antawn Jamison, Shaq, Ben Wallace, Anderson Varejao, JJ Hickson, the 2nd best 3pt shooting team in the NBA, the best defense in the NBA ...

Yes, how could I forget Shaq? I must have forgotten since Shaq only played one season there at age 37 when his body was breaking down, he only played in 52 games and set a new low for MPG at the time. Yes, that Shaq. Any more intellectually dishonest arguments from you?

Every player listed would greatly improve this Heat team at the stage they were when they played with Lebron. Every single one of them.

Lmao at that broken down shaq and Antwan helping the heat

Ben and Varejao two bigs who would clog the paint even more for the big 3. Check no Williams 3 pt shooting with and without lbj

Hickson can't even stay on a team for awhile


/remembers mike brown thinking it was a good idea to play shaq in the Boston series let alone having him defend KEVIN GARNETT in an elimination game, only took 5 min to say never mind

[thejet1711]

Would these two really leave Wade in the dust? after he opts out and gives up all his cash? Jeez.

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Would these two really leave Wade in the dust? after he opts out and gives up all his cash? Jeez.

It's sure looking that way.

[MaxPayne]

HIF might be the only one on here who supports Spo more than LeBron. What has Spo done besides riding Bron's coattails for 4 seasons? Honestly, what he said almost made me throw up... Well we all kinda knew that since he has an avi of Spo and a sig defending Spo, so not a shocker really. And who the hell are you to call people fools around here?

[HIF]

Unlike many I support the Miami Heat not a player or coach.

With regards Bron and Spo does it really matter who I like more? I support the Miami Heat therefore I support them both.

Spo has been with the team for a lot longer and I freely admit to liking him more than Bron. I didn't like Bron when he was with Cleveland (obviously) I didn't like "the decision" I thought it was immature but I liked getting Bron on the Heat. I've supported Bron through these last 4 years and he and WE have done well. I expect him to return and play another 2 years here, I'll support him then and when he eventually leaves I'll stop supporting him, unless he stays here till he retires. I'll always like Wade and UD more than Lebron. They are Heaters. I feel that Bron is a rental, just like Ray, Ray who I like will never be a Heat, he'll be a sonic or a celtic. Payton wasn't a heat, Williams wasn't a heat, Shaq wasn't a heat. All just short term rentals.

Do you see Pierce as a Celtic or a Net? Do you view Shaq as a laker, Magic, Heat or sun etc...?

Damn I even view Beas as a heat - that's why I want him to do well. He's one of our own.

I even liked Joel more than I like Lebron, it's not about support though. Whilst he's in a Heat uniform I'll support him. At present he isn't and he isn't making the effort that I'd like to see from him to make MY team better.

Is that clear enough for you?

[GreenHat]

Unlike many I support the Miami Heat not a player or coach.

With regards Bron and Spo does it really matter who I like more? I support the Miami Heat therefore I support them both.

Spo has been with the team for a lot longer and I freely admit to liking him more than Bron. I didn't like Bron when he was with Cleveland (obviously) I didn't like "the decision" I thought it was immature but I liked getting Bron on the Heat. I've supported Bron through these last 4 years and he and WE have done well. I expect him to return and play another 2 years here, I'll support him then and when he eventually leaves I'll stop supporting him, unless he stays here till he retires. I'll always like Wade and UD more than Lebron. They are Heaters. I feel that Bron is a rental, just like Ray, Ray who I like will never be a Heat, he'll be a sonic or a celtic. Payton wasn't a heat, Williams wasn't a heat, Shaq wasn't a heat. All just short term rentals.

Do you see Pierce as a Celtic or a Net? Do you view Shaq as a laker, Magic, Heat or sun etc...?

Damn I even view Beas as a heat - that's why I want him to do well. He's one of our own.

I even liked Joel more than I like Lebron, it's not about support though. Whilst he's in a Heat uniform I'll support him. At present he isn't and he isn't making the effort that I'd like to see from him to make MY team better.

Is that clear enough for you?

I can understand supporting Wade or Haslem more than Lebron.

Supporting Spo more than Lebron is ridiculous and shows what a Spo homer you are.

Also the timing of your announcement is "coincidental". Why didn't all this Lebron is just a rental talk come up while he was winning for us?

And even if you support guys like Spo more than Lebron, the amount of hate you have thrown his way because he MIGHT leave is ridiculous.

Why should Lebron be expected to be loyal to you when the smallest rumor and you bash him? Not to mention his loyalty involves his livelihood and legacy while yours just requires a few keystrokes.

[HIF]

This post was made by GreenHat who is currently on your ignore list. Display this post.

Are you still stalking me. You're wasting your time you're on ignore. You'd better get back to Lebron's dick before it gets cold.