Bulls Hope For Boozer For Gasol Sign-And-Trade

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Bulls Hope For Boozer For Gasol Sign-And-Trade 

Post#1 » by RealGM Wiretap » Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:13 am

Sources indicate that the Chicago Bulls hope to pursue a sign-and-trade with the Los Angeles Lakers involving Pau Gasol and the expiring contract of Carlos Boozer.


The window to use the amnesty provision on Boozer officially started on Wednesday night.


By trading him in a potential deal for Gasol, the Bulls would keep their exceptions to target players such as possibly Nikola Mirotic, Trevor Ariza, Shawn Marion, Kirk Hinrich and Ramon Sessions.


Gasol is reportedly considering the Oklahoma City Thunder, San Antonio Spurs and Lakers in addition to the Bulls.

Via K.C. Johnson/Chicago Tribune

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Post#2 » by The59Sound » Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:24 am

Why would the Lakers do that?
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Post#3 » by TheBallDoLie » Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:24 am

That would be awesome for Chicago. Only question is who is coming off the bench? Taj or Gasol? I guess it doesn't really matter if neither minds.
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Post#4 » by Frank Dux » Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:26 am

The Lakers aren't touching Boozer unless there's some picks involved.
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Post#5 » by Stolen Team Fan » Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:33 am

Frank Dux wrote:The Lakers aren't touching Boozer unless there's some picks involved.

This. Why would they get a guy that will be borderline poison to Randle's development? And why would Gasol even want to go to Chicago? To be behind Noah and/or Taj? Personally, I would rather the S&T be with the Thunder, so at least the Lakers can get back a decent prospect that would otherwise be nailed to the Thunder's bench.
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Post#6 » by Sam195 » Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:37 am

okc could do the same thing with perkins deal. If gasol is choosing between okc and spurs for the mid-level - he likely will choose the spurs because there is no state income tax and there system is a better fit for him. And if gasol signs a two year deal with the spurs he can opt out next season and get a substantial raise closer to his market value when duncan's contract comes off the books - since timmy is expected to retire after next season. okc can outbid the spurs if lakers agree to sign and trade and take on perkins. Pekins cap hit is 9.6M so gasol could get signed to a deal that pays him around 10M in year 1 and decreases each following season to help okc manage it's cap - like the nick collision contract.
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Post#7 » by Jvaughn » Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:45 am

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Frank Dux wrote:The Lakers aren't touching Boozer unless there's some picks involved.

This. Why would they get a guy that will be borderline poison to Randle's development? And why would Gasol even want to go to Chicago? To be behind Noah and/or Taj? Personally, I would rather the S&T be with the Thunder, so at least the Lakers can get back a decent prospect that would otherwise be nailed to the Thunder's bench.


Curious why you think Boozer would be poison to Randle's development. He's not a poison teammate or anything. He could probably actually help Randle with his mid range game.
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Post#8 » by musiqsoulchild » Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:52 am

Sam195 wrote:okc could do the same thing with perkins deal. If gasol is choosing between okc and spurs for the mid-level - he likely will choose the spurs because there is no state income tax and there system is a better fit for him. And if gasol signs a two year deal with the spurs he can opt out next season and get a substantial raise closer to his market value when duncan's contract comes off the books - since timmy is expected to retire after next season. okc can outbid the spurs if lakers agree to sign and trade and take on perkins. Pekins cap hit is 9.6M so gasol could get signed to a deal that pays him around 10M in year 1 and decreases each following season to help okc manage it's cap - like the nick collision contract.


When you are 34, you take longer years and the guaranteed money.

One simple injury to Gasol next year and the Spurs plan you talk about, backfires in his face.
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Post#9 » by Kevin Johnson » Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:56 am

The59Sound wrote:Why would the Lakers do that?


Maybe because they once traded an expiring Kwame Brown for Pau Gasol :D
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Post#10 » by LApwnd » Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:57 am

it would taken a lot to dump boozer to begin with on any team but now Chi wants Pau in addition to that....gluck with that Chi. I certainly wouldn't mind our mgmt. helping send Pau east but would taken at least 1 1st or several 2nds or another 1st just to take on Boozer to begin with, and Chi doesn't seem to want to give up anything of value to begin with.
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Post#11 » by LApwnd » Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:59 am

Kevin Johnson wrote:
The59Sound wrote:Why would the Lakers do that?


Maybe because they once traded an expiring Kwame Brown for Pau Gasol :D


and clearly Boozer is of that caliber player :D
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Post#12 » by Fresh360Waves » Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:08 am

Frank Dux wrote:The Lakers aren't touching Boozer unless there's some picks involved.


Bingo!
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Post#13 » by 10acious » Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:10 am

Gasol hasn't been healthy in about three years. He is high risk to break down as a useful player. Maybe he can go for 10-15 minutes a game at this point in his career, like Garnett. He is of little value to the Bulls unless they can partially offset what they will pay Boozer against what they pay Gasol.

Besides, do the Bulls really need another injury-prone guy, already having Rose and Noah?
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Post#14 » by jsmoove760 » Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:11 am

Boozer is a bum, any real Lakers fan wants nothing to do with the thought unless other names/picks are involved and even then its a stretch. Boozer wouldn't be bad for Randle's development, but he wouldn't be good either. Boozer has quickly diminished over the past 3 years and the fact that his own team was already talking potential amnesty, his credibility to be productive at the cost of that contract is hard to comprehend… even if it is the Lakers. Randle will be better of listening to a leader like kobe, regardless of the difference in position. Lets not forget Jordan Hill either, he's no slouch and his stock has been going up quietly.
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Post#15 » by LApwnd » Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:13 am

10acious wrote:Gasol hasn't been healthy in about three years. He is high risk to break down as a useful player. Maybe he can go for 10-15 minutes a game at this point in his career, like Garnett. He is of little value to the Bulls unless they can partially offset what they will pay Boozer against what they pay Gasol.


little value but Boozer has NO value to us and based on the high price most teams would have to pay to dump expiring these days, Chi doesn't even have the assets to dump Boozer by himself let alone entice LA into helping them acquire Pau at his asking price.
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Post#16 » by luss54321 » Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:13 am

I don't understand why the Bulls are going after Gasol. They already have Noah, Gibson, and potentially Mirotic. Mirotic and Gibson both should be playing significant minutes. Gibson earned it last year and it's not like Mirotic is a prospect. He's 23 and he's been dominating European basketball for a few years now.

They need a SG and a SF. Butler/Dunleavy is just unacceptable. They would be great bench players but well below average starters.
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Post#17 » by Greenie » Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:15 am

The Bulls seem hell bent on forcing Boozer on someone...
That will get them nowhere if they don't want to trade assets.
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Post#18 » by Greenie » Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:16 am

LApwnd wrote:
10acious wrote:Gasol hasn't been healthy in about three years. He is high risk to break down as a useful player. Maybe he can go for 10-15 minutes a game at this point in his career, like Garnett. He is of little value to the Bulls unless they can partially offset what they will pay Boozer against what they pay Gasol.


little value but Boozer has NO value to us and based on the high price most teams would have to pay to dump expiring these days, Chi doesn't even have the assets to dump Boozer by himself let alone entice LA into helping them acquire Pau at his asking price.

Exactly.
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Post#19 » by luss54321 » Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:16 am

I see a lot of people disrespecting Boozer. He averaged 14 PPG and 8 REB on 45% FG in 28 MPG.

Yes, he's grossly overpaid, but he would be a great player to bring off the bench for an offensive spark. He still has game and he can still score the ball
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Post#20 » by LApwnd » Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:21 am

luss54321 wrote:I see a lot of people disrespecting Boozer. He averaged 14 PPG and 8 REB on 45% FG in 28 MPG.

Yes, he's grossly overpaid, but he would be a great player to bring off the bench for an offensive spark. He still has game and he can still score the ball


on a contending team yes but nobody paying 16mill for a backup w/o significant assets

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