Are the Jordan/Lebron comparisons finally over?

[EwingSweatsALot]

The Decision II shows the huge gap in character between Lebron and Jordan and I think many (myself included) take this into account when looking at the 2 players. Character. Makeup. Jordan just came across as a straight up gamer while Lebron always seems like he's trying to game the system and make things all pretty for himself.

Jordan didn't sign in 1997 until LATE August. Even flirted with the Knicks, whether serious or not.

While I agree with what you are saying, MJ has done this before.

[penquin11]

Did Pippen forget how to play defense? Because Wade sure did.

Is it Wade's lack of defense or offense, because I'm getting confused with which narrative some people want to take it to give LeBron a pass

I'm particularly responding to the notion that nobody else showed up offensively to help LeBron the way how Jordan's Bulls teammates did, whereas I displayed that Pippen posted similar numbers to Wade in Finals series' in which Jordan still won with his secondary scorer not quite delivering

It was the clear lack of both.

Lebron James is a great player and he hasn't had the benefit of playing under the GREATEST COACH OF ALL TIME. His teams have been and likely always will be rather low on depth (concerningly so in some areas).

When the Birdman is a defensive revelation within your big's rotation you have a problem. When you are playing a guy MJ's size at the PF position frequently, you have a problem. When your second best player is more fragile than glass, you have a problem.

Michael Jordan is a better player than Lebron for a great number of reasons, but Lebron's lack of ability to defeat the Spurs this year isn't one of them. I know the distaste for Lebron here is thick, and I can't stand the guy because of his antics, but to base your entire argument around Lebron's inability to wing another ring this year, and to claim that MJ would have been able to do so, is simply ridiculous.

[Bassman]

MJ's drive and motor is what set him apart from the rest. He had immense talent and athleticism to go along with that, but his drive is what truly made him the GOAT. Lebron doesn't have that drive and never will, their respective record in the finals is all the proof you need to assert that truth.

I agree about MJ, and he is still the greatest player in my book. However, James is very dedicated and driven as well. His choices and motivators are different, but not all that unusual as compared to other players of today. Jordan came from a different background and era.

[mrknowitall215]

Did Pippen forget how to play defense? Because Wade sure did.

Is it Wade's lack of defense or offense, because I'm getting confused with which narrative some people want to take it to give LeBron a pass

I'm particularly responding to the notion that nobody else showed up offensively to help LeBron the way how Jordan's Bulls teammates did, whereas I displayed that Pippen posted similar numbers to Wade in Finals series' in which Jordan still won with his secondary scorer not quite delivering

It was the clear lack of both.

Lebron James is a great player and he hasn't had the benefit of playing under the GREATEST COACH OF ALL TIME. His teams have been and likely always will be rather low on depth (concerningly so in some areas).

When the Birdman is a defensive revelation within your big's rotation you have a problem. When you are playing a guy MJ's size at the PF position frequently, you have a problem. When your second best player is more fragile than glass, you have a problem.

Michael Jordan is a better player than Lebron for a great number of reasons, but Lebron's lack of ability to defeat the Spurs this year isn't one of them. I know the distaste for Lebron here is thick, and I can't stand the guy because of his antics, but to base your entire argument around Lebron's inability to wing another ring this year, and to claim that MJ would have been able to do so, is simply ridiculous.

We can't speak on what we don't know. All I know is that it's my own personal belief & opinion that Jordan in his prime could've lead his team to a victory over the Spurs. No need or purpose to ridicule my opinion as ridiculous. You're rebuttal to my belief is 'ridiculous', because we don't know

For instance for the sake of it, do you think you can jump 2 feet in the air? If I think you can, it's not ridiculous. I just think you can

[Amateur Wannabe]

Would Jordan beat the Spurs, if he was on Miami squad? Well, no one can tell for sure. I guess prime 1990-1992 Jordan would have no trouble putting 40+ avg in finals, but Miami lost by such blowouts that maybe even such individual performances wouldn't be enough. It's not that it's that simple, plus/minus scoring and difference, guess we would just have to see it. My humble opinion is that it would be a lot closer, but I really can't be 100% about the outcome.

About Lebron, it's clear: Can't win with his Cleveland - join some of the best there are in a superteam. Can't win with them anymore, superteam clearly on a decline - join forces with legitimate superstar Kyrie Irving (still young, with great potential to be even better player) and the most anticipated draft pick in recent years, Andrew Wiggins. In my eyes, that's hardly "returning home", rather "running away again in chase of best available option", and advertise it as a super cool redepmtion move. Nice one, Lebron That man is an able businessman