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The One And Only Offseason Thread 2

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Post#321 » by BobbieL » Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:03 pm

Funky Tut wrote:Am I the only one who doesn't think Cleveland with Lebron is significantly better than Miami with Lebron?


NBA is about winning champioshps. And for the next two years, Miami with Wade, Bosh, Haslem, Allen, McRoberts, Granger with LeBron would be better than Cleveland with that young group - especially without Love

Now, if you added Love, that migt be closer - but that is YOUNG team and the NBA and playoffs is about experience.

So for the short term: the Miami team above with LeBron is better than Cleveland,. Longer term, no

But this is about winnng one title in Cleveland in the next 4-5 years. That seems do-able
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Post#322 » by Revived » Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:03 pm

Fo-Real wrote:The Phx. F.O. has publicly come out and said Dragic is going nowhere..... have done no such thing for Bledso. Wonder where he wants to go??

They came out and publicly said they won't trade Gortat either and then traded him the next day for Okafor and Tyler Ennis.
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Post#323 » by rsavaj » Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:04 pm

So add Thomas, add Deng, re-sign Bledsoe??

Bledsoe/Thomas/Ennis
Dragic/Green/Goodwin
Deng/Tucker/Warren
Kieff/Mook
Plumlee/Len

Wow. That's a pretty deep squad...not exactly what I expected, but it would sure as heck compete.
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Post#324 » by bigfoot » Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:05 pm

Wonder where Gasol is headed?
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Post#325 » by RunDogGun » Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:06 pm

rsavaj wrote:
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Same. I recall thinking Childress would be our new Matrix and Warrick would be our new Amare :banghead:

That seemed like the plan, but for some moronic reason we did not use either correctly. First, if you sign someone to be Amare-lite and don't play that guy alongside Nash, then there is no point. Then Childress started out ok until he broke his finger. After that, we just stuck him at the three (if he ever saw the floor) and he become a non threat. Although I still feel his contract was stupid.


We used Warrick alongside Nash until we realized that he was a worse defender than Amare was. Can't have two sieves like Nash and Warrick in the starting lineup.

Chilly left his game in Europe.


Nope, we started Turk at the four spot, not Warrick. And we had Amare and Nash in the starting lineups for years, so I don't see much of a difference in your sieve comment. :(
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Post#326 » by gaspar » Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:07 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/APkrawczynski/status/487658805279604737[/tweet]
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Post#327 » by Qwigglez » Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:07 pm

bigfoot wrote:Wonder where Gasol is headed?


I would offer him 15mil for one year if he would accept it.
Or as high as 33mil for 3 years.
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Post#328 » by BobbieL » Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:08 pm

gaspar wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/APkrawczynski/status/487658805279604737[/tweet]


The offer needs to include Wiggins and offer to take back a guy like Martin or Barea
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Post#329 » by rsavaj » Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:09 pm

RunDogGun wrote:
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RunDogGun wrote:That seemed like the plan, but for some moronic reason we did not use either correctly. First, if you sign someone to be Amare-lite and don't play that guy alongside Nash, then there is no point. Then Childress started out ok until he broke his finger. After that, we just stuck him at the three (if he ever saw the floor) and he become a non threat. Although I still feel his contract was stupid.


We used Warrick alongside Nash until we realized that he was a worse defender than Amare was. Can't have two sieves like Nash and Warrick in the starting lineup.

Chilly left his game in Europe.


Nope, we started Turk at the four spot, not Warrick. And we had Amare and Nash in the starting lineups for years, so I don't see much of a difference in your sieve comment. :(


Warrick was worse than Amare on D and not close enough on O to make up for it
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Post#330 » by BobbieL » Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:10 pm

Qwigglez wrote:
bigfoot wrote:Wonder where Gasol is headed?


I would offer him 15mil for one year if he would accept it.
Or as high as 33mil for 3 years.



Can you do a deal that is 14m for year 1 and year 2 is an option only if the Suns win a title?
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Post#331 » by Kjdills13 » Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:11 pm

Let's help the Cavs get love and sneak bledsoe in the deal.

Cavs- love Green
Suns- wiggins, Martin, Bennett
Timberwolves- bledsoe, waiters, Morris, Morris

Cavs- get there guy and a 3pt shooter
Suns- get there " future star" have to take a bad contract then hope Bennett developed at a "PF"
Wolves- get 2 young players to help them win NOW. And get 2 brothers who had breakout years.


The Cavs NEED a team to take martins contract. I would take it as long as we get wiggins.

Make a push for Monroe

Dragic/ IT/ Ennis
Wiggins/ Goodwin/ Martin
Tucker/ warren
Monroe, Bennett
Plumlee/Len

I love the youth and potential of a roster like that.
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Post#332 » by spanishninja » Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:12 pm

BobbieL wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:
bigfoot wrote:Wonder where Gasol is headed?


I would offer him 15mil for one year if he would accept it.
Or as high as 33mil for 3 years.



Can you do a deal that is 14m for year 1 and year 2 is an option only if the Suns win a title?


or pay him 20 million first year and make him pay back 10 if we don't win the title.
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Post#333 » by charley barkles » Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:12 pm

SF88 wrote:
bwoolf2 wrote:
Funky Tut wrote:Why are we not interested in Christ Bosh? I think he fits our system quite well and we have more cap room and flexibility than Houston does.


Because he is going home to Texas also, and Houston is farther along than we are.

So is everyone staying or going home now? Melo staying in NY, LBJ to CLE and Bosh to Houston?

Is there any NBA player worth a damn that's from Arizona?


I can't wait to see Bosh's article titled: "I'm coming home - kinda"
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Post#334 » by QuickLikeTheo » Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:13 pm

We are never getting wiggins


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Post#335 » by JMac1 » Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:14 pm

bigfoot wrote:Wonder where Gasol is headed?



Bledsoe/Thomas
Dragic/Green
Deng/Tucker
Gasol/Kieff
Plumlee/Len

with the rooks taking their time to come up. I would love that, Definitely playoffs over Portland!

Gotta get Gasol!!
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Post#336 » by bigfoot » Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:16 pm

Pretty legit looking squad and it doesn't include Goodwin, Warren, or other rookies.
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Post#337 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:18 pm

JMac1 wrote:
bigfoot wrote:Wonder where Gasol is headed?



Bledsoe/Thomas
Dragic/Green
Deng/Tucker
Gasol/Kieff
Plumlee/Len

with the rooks taking their time to come up. I would love that, Definitely playoffs over Portland!

Gotta get Gasol!!


As much as I've been crapping on the idea of Deng and Gasol, I gotta admit, that is one heckuva roster. I imagine the young guys would be pretty unhappy about being nailed to the bench. If Hornacek could make that team overperform the way he made this year's squad overperform, we'd have a nice cache of trade bait as well.

I guess what I'm sayin is, I'm down for whatever. :-?
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 2 

Post#338 » by bhawk » Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:19 pm

take the Miami 1st from Cleveland and other stuff for Bledsoe... do it now!
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Post#339 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:20 pm

bhawk wrote:take the Miami 1st from Cleveland and other stuff for Bledsoe... do it now!


That Miami first is top 10 protected the next two years. Which means you'll get it in 2017. And just because we run two PGs doesn't mean everyone will want to.
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Post#340 » by aIvin adams » Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:20 pm

QuickLikeTheo wrote:We are never getting wiggins


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