The One And Only Offseason Thread 2

lespaul89 · Post #561 » by **lespaul89** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:17 pm

Kerrsed wrote:As Traxxe stated, Sarver left a bad taste in players mouths. Now would Love rather come here with the team how its currently constructed, or if we had Deng on board also. Deng is the type of guy that helps draw in better talent.

I think that is a little overstated though. I mean when Chicago is in the running for big Free agents like Melo...the draw has been the chance to play with D rose and Noah...not necessarily Deng. I mean if we got him, do you really sees free agents saying, "I'm going to PHX to get a chance to play with Deng!"

Sure he will help. But I honestly don't think he will make that much of an impact in that area.

thamadkant · Post #562 » by **thamadkant** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:18 pm

Im actually happy Lebron is going back to Cavs.
I've always wanted to buy a maroon/gold jersey but didn't have a player incentive...
Now James #6 joins my collection.. May also hunt some #23 James Cavs jersey.

Lol

Back to Suns...
- Heat apparently now looking at Deng and Bledsoe...
Hmmm..
That's what I read from their forums.

asubennett · Post #563 » by **asubennett** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:18 pm

jcsunsfan wrote:
bigfoot wrote:
asubennett wrote:What about Wade on a 3 yr 36M deal. He still has some game left in there.... Our trainers could help him.

Bledsoe / IT
Dragic / Green
Wade / Tucker
Morris / Morris
Plumlee / Len

Yeah cause our trainers can create new cartilage

Since when did Wade become a 3?

When did Dragic become a 2? When did Tucker become a 4? When did Frye become a 3? We don't play positions on this team.

Nando88 · Post #564 » by **Nando88** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:20 pm

ginobiliflops wrote:Those wanting Warren to contribute this year are nuts. Most rookies can't contribute right away. I'd be ok with Deng if Monroe can't be had. Making the playoffs would be a start. Baby steps, people. Read the book below.

Oh I love What About Bob! Lol

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spanishninja · Post #565 » by **spanishninja** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:25 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
I am not sure Tucker and Deng are good fits - two small forwards; nobody to replace the 4 spot for Frye. Granted Markieff probably can. I am not concerned with replacing Frye's three point shooting if the team can improve its interior defense and rebounding. Even if just backing up Kieff. Deng brings the scoring.

We are waiting for the Bulls to amnesty Boozer.

Bledsoe/Thomas/Ennis
Dragic/Green/Goodwin
Deng/Tucker/Warren
Boozer/Morris/Morris
Plumlee/Len

you should ban yourself for suggesting boozer

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well people have been bringing up Amare as well, this is crazy times!

JMac1 · Post #566 » by **JMac1** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:27 pm

rsavaj wrote:
JMac1 wrote:
letsgosuns wrote:I think Luol Deng is so overrated and way past his prime. He was not nearly as important to the Bulls anymore as people thought either. When he was traded on January 7, the Bulls were 14-18. The Bulls finished the season 48-34. So they went 34-16 without Deng. Not to mention, but they finished as the second best defensive rated team in the league. The main difference between Deng and P.J. Tucker is that Deng is taller, but his shooting percentages are not good. 43% fg and 30% 3pts (awful 3 point shooter). After just agreeing to re-sign Tucker and having a rookie that averaged 25 ppg in college ready to play, I have no idea why the Suns would want to give big money to Deng. He is barely an upgrade over P.J., if at all.
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So you didn't watch that video I posted huh? Please watch the video, and if you still feel this way, you should be banned!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdUJhziUMAM[/youtube]

Highlight videos shouldn't be used as selling points. Watch some Beasley highlights and he looks like a god. Deng is exponentially better(there's no comparison between the two), but I have concerns about his fit and his price tag.

Was Deng an NBA Allstar?! I am posting the video so people who really don't know his game can get a better idea.

JMac1 · Post #567 » by **JMac1** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:30 pm

letsgosuns wrote:
JMac1 wrote:
letsgosuns wrote:I think Luol Deng is so overrated and way past his prime. He was not nearly as important to the Bulls anymore as people thought either. When he was traded on January 7, the Bulls were 14-18. The Bulls finished the season 48-34. So they went 34-16 without Deng. Not to mention, but they finished as the second best defensive rated team in the league. The main difference between Deng and P.J. Tucker is that Deng is taller, but his shooting percentages are not good. 43% fg and 30% 3pts (awful 3 point shooter). After just agreeing to re-sign Tucker and having a rookie that averaged 25 ppg in college ready to play, I have no idea why the Suns would want to give big money to Deng. He is barely an upgrade over P.J., if at all.
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So you didn't watch that video I posted huh? Please watch the video, and if you still feel this way, you should be banned!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdUJhziUMAM[/youtube]

You have got to be kidding me. So because you post a video of Luol Deng having 37 points, 7 assists, and 8 rebounds, and 7 turnovers, I am supposed to be impressed? What about the fact that it was a triple overtime game and he played 56 minutes? Or that they lost the game. Or better yet, that they lost the game to the freakin' Pelicans who were horrible. That actually makes it even worse. He needed three overtimes and 56 minutes to get those statistics only to see his team lose to an inferior team. So this video is supposed to convince me that he is worth 12 million dollars a year? Okay, I will post a video of Gerald Green having 41 points in 41 minutes including 8 threes against the Thunder where the Suns actually won the game (far more impressive) and claim that Gerald Green is worth 12 million a year because of it.

You got to be kidding me?! Did you see how Deng got his points?!!???? Yea Gerald Green goes 8-10 from three and gets 41 points....big difference. Like I said watch the video then talk!!

Sunsdeuce · Post #568 » by **Sunsdeuce** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:33 pm

JMac1 wrote:
letsgosuns wrote:
JMac1 wrote:\

So you didn't watch that video I posted huh? Please watch the video, and if you still feel this way, you should be banned!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdUJhziUMAM[/youtube]

You have got to be kidding me. So because you post a video of Luol Deng having 37 points, 7 assists, and 8 rebounds, and 7 turnovers, I am supposed to be impressed? What about the fact that it was a triple overtime game and he played 56 minutes? Or that they lost the game. Or better yet, that they lost the game to the freakin' Pelicans who were horrible. That actually makes it even worse. He needed three overtimes and 56 minutes to get those statistics only to see his team lose to an inferior team. So this video is supposed to convince me that he is worth 12 million dollars a year? Okay, I will post a video of Gerald Green having 41 points in 41 minutes including 8 threes against the Thunder where the Suns actually won the game (far more impressive) and claim that Gerald Green is worth 12 million a year because of it.

You got to be kidding me?! Did you see how Deng got his points?!!???? Yea Gerald Green goes 8-10 from three and gets 41 points....big difference. Like I said watch the video then talk!!

He is probably more impressed with tuckers numbers. IDK

Nando88 · Post #569 » by **Nando88** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:34 pm

I'm thinking some people In here are still hoping we land LBJ.

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ShawnBronald · Post #570 » by **ShawnBronald** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:37 pm

Nando88 wrote:I'm thinking some people In here are still hoping we land LBJ.

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Well he hasn't officially signed a contract with Cleveland yet. :lol:

JMac1 · Post #571 » by **JMac1** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:38 pm

Nando88 wrote:I'm thinking some people In here are still hoping we land LBJ.

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Yea we couldn't get James so lets suck again. Why get a good player on a short term contract, you have to spend a certain amount of dollars towards the cap anyways....

Again Kerrsed; how well did that old ass non-shooting Grant Hill do in our lineup?! Oh WCF!

letsgosuns · Post #572 » by **letsgosuns** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:39 pm

You got to be kidding me?! Did you see how Deng got his points?!!???? Yea Gerald Green goes 8-10 from three and gets 41 points....big difference. Like I said watch the video then talk!![/quote]

I did watch the video. I have watched Deng his entire career. I know his game well. I am not interested. He is inconsistent and has very poor field goal percentages. I do not know what you want me to say. He is a 7-8 million dollar a year role player that has no business being on the Suns. You wanna pay him more than Dragic? I do not. You want to give him three or four years while the Suns do not sniff a championship? I do not. There is no reason to sign him. They just gave Tucker a new contract. Just because Deng is a much more versatile offensive player than Tucker, does not make him worth 12 million a year. He is not that great. Is he better than Tucker? Yes I think he is. Is he worth committing nearly 50 million dollars to? Not even close.

JMac1 · Post #573 » by **JMac1** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:40 pm

ShawnBronald wrote:
Nando88 wrote:I'm thinking some people In here are still hoping we land LBJ.

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Well he hasn't officially signed a contract with Cleveland yet.

No...we are going to get Wiggins!!! Maybe Love?!! He is still in Minnesota.

Move on people. Only one team can win it all.

b-ball forever · Post #574 » by **b-ball forever** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:41 pm

1UPZ wrote:Im actually happy Lebron is going back to Cavs.
I've always wanted to buy a maroon/gold jersey but didn't have a player incentive...
Now James #6 joins my collection.. May also hunt some #23 James Cavs jersey.

Lol

Back to Suns...
- Heat apparently now looking at Deng and Bledsoe...
Hmmm..
That's what I read from their forums.

Ya, I obviously woulda prefered it if LBJ came to the Suns, but I like that he didn't take the easy way out this time. Excellent choice for his legacy if he manages to win with Cleveland

ShawnBronald · Post #575 » by **ShawnBronald** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:41 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/487713088951447552[/tweet]

Wow.

MilotheSlayer · Post #576 » by **MilotheSlayer** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:42 pm

What's bosh doing?

AtheJ415 · Post #577 » by **AtheJ415** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:42 pm

You've got to be kidding. He stayed in the East. That is the definition of taking the easy way out.

b-ball forever wrote:
1UPZ wrote:Im actually happy Lebron is going back to Cavs.
I've always wanted to buy a maroon/gold jersey but didn't have a player incentive...
Now James #6 joins my collection.. May also hunt some #23 James Cavs jersey.

Lol

Back to Suns...
- Heat apparently now looking at Deng and Bledsoe...
Hmmm..
That's what I read from their forums.

Ya, I obviously woulda prefered it if LBJ came to the Suns, but I like that he didn't take the easy way out this time. Excellent choice for his legacy if he manages to win with Cleveland

Dr Manute · Post #578 » by **Dr Manute** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:43 pm

ShawnBronald wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/487713088951447552[/tweet]

Wow.

Good - No Bledsoe for Miami

JMac1 · Post #579 » by **JMac1** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:43 pm

ShawnBronald wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/487713088951447552[/tweet]

Wow.

Bledsoe
Wade
Bosh
...............NOT!!

ShawnBronald · Post #580 » by **ShawnBronald** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:43 pm

So now what's Houston's plan with all the money they shed by trading Lin? Is Carmelo still an option for them?

Wait.... hopefully they aren't looking at Bledsoe!