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Re: Hornets sign Marvin Williams 2y/14mil 

Post#321 » by JDR720 » Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:37 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:
JDR720 wrote:just wait until we sign Brian Roberts to be Kemba's backup


I'm just going to float in a positivity bubble, on the river of tears that will flood this place.


Brian Roberts would be just fine as a backup for Kemba. What else do some of you people want for backups? My freaking God. (I responded to you Sik and JDR, but it has nothing to do with either of you)

If he isn't a star he sucks and we overpaid, and if he could be a star like Gordon Hayward he still sucks and we overpaid
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Re: Hornets sign Marvin Williams 2y/14mil 

Post#322 » by Elden Payton » Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:37 am

JDR720 wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:
JDR720 wrote:just wait until we sign Brian Roberts to be Kemba's backup


I'm just going to float in a positivity bubble, on the river of tears that will flood this place.

I'll be in my kayak going white water tear rafting


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Re: Hornets sign Marvin Williams 2y/14mil 

Post#323 » by Elden Payton » Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:39 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:
JDR720 wrote:just wait until we sign Brian Roberts to be Kemba's backup


I'm just going to float in a positivity bubble, on the river of tears that will flood this place.


Brian Roberts would be just fine as a backup for Kemba. What else do some of you people want for backups? My freaking God. (I responded to you Sik and JDR, but it has nothing to do with either of you)


I swear that some people forget which exact, team it is we support.
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Re: Hornets sign Marvin Williams 2y/14mil 

Post#324 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:39 am

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Liver_Pooty wrote:Im going to pull a MrKnowitall and Ichiro and say this

"Charlotte had a deal lined up with McRoberts for 2 years at 14 million and he chose the longevity of the deal he signed with Miami, it just made more sense for him"


I would've worded it a little different before being misinterpreted as stating fact or misconstrued as a psychic, something like:

"I think Charlotte had a deal lined up with McRoberts for 2 years at 14 million and he chose the longevity of the deal he signed with Miami, it just made more sense for him"

There you go, FTFY


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Re: Hornets sign Marvin Williams 2y/14mil 

Post#325 » by Walt Cronkite » Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:07 am

I'm not totally sure about the contract cost, but it doesn't seem excessive and I think Williams will fit a role for Charlotte. Does he not do a lot of the things you'd hope for Hayward to do without the expense and risk?
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Re: Hornets sign Marvin Williams 2y/14mil 

Post#326 » by HornetJail » Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:08 am

Walt Cronkite wrote:I'm not totally sure about the contract cost, but it doesn't seem excessive and I think Williams will fit a role for Charlotte. Does he not do a lot of the things you'd hope for Hayward to do without the expense and risk?

He does about a quarter of it for half the price. Gordon Hayward was also worth a bit more than half of the contract he received.
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Re: Hornets sign Marvin Williams 2y/14mil 

Post#327 » by Elden Payton » Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:08 am

Walt Cronkite wrote:I'm not totally sure about the contract cost, but it doesn't seem excessive and I think Williams will fit a role for Charlotte. Does he not do a lot of the things you'd hope for Hayward to do without the expense and risk?


How dare you make sense!
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Re: Hornets sign Marvin Williams 2y/14mil 

Post#328 » by Eoghan » Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:13 am

I actually would like a Brian Roberts signing, sucka ducks.
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Re: Hornets sign Marvin Williams 2y/14mil 

Post#329 » by Walt Cronkite » Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:16 am

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Walt Cronkite wrote:I'm not totally sure about the contract cost, but it doesn't seem excessive and I think Williams will fit a role for Charlotte. Does he not do a lot of the things you'd hope for Hayward to do without the expense and risk?

He does about a quarter of it for half the price. Gordon Hayward was also worth a bit more than half of the contract he received.


Hayward is better at creating for others (but uses more possessions and obviously generates more turnovers), rebounds less, scores a little more with pretty similar %s. Is there a big defensive difference?
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Re: The Marvin Williams Thread 

Post#330 » by W_HAMILTON » Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:17 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Distinct possibility that after Vonleh went 0 for freaking 13 last night Cho said "My God, we better get some depth at that forward position immediately, that kids not even close to ready"


I'm thinking something like this happened. Even if it wasn't a suddenly drastic reaction, I doubt they expect him to contribute much this season. I really wish we could have ended up with someone that could come in and contribute right away......
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Re: The Marvin Williams Thread 

Post#331 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:18 am

W_HAMILTON wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:Distinct possibility that after Vonleh went 0 for freaking 13 last night Cho said "My God, we better get some depth at that forward position immediately, that kids not even close to ready"


I'm thinking something like this happened. Even if it wasn't a suddenly drastic reaction, I doubt they expect him to contribute much this season. I really wish we could have ended up with someone that could come in and contribute right away......


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Re: Hornets sign Marvin Williams 2y/14mil 

Post#332 » by HornetJail » Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:18 am

Sik Infant wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:
I'm just going to float in a positivity bubble, on the river of tears that will flood this place.


Brian Roberts would be just fine as a backup for Kemba. What else do some of you people want for backups? My freaking God. (I responded to you Sik and JDR, but it has nothing to do with either of you)


I swear that some people forget which exact, team it is we support.

Bobcats, right?
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Re: Hornets sign Marvin Williams 2y/14mil 

Post#333 » by yosemiteben » Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:58 am

We were only one game out of fifth place in the east. The only rational explanation is all other ten Eastern Conference teams were tanking.
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Re: Hornets sign Marvin Williams 2y/14mil 

Post#334 » by therebirth » Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:08 am

I am losing hope by the day. What are they doing? They are intent on finding a stretch four no matter how overpaid he is and build around Jefferson who might opt out and leave next season if we don't make the playoffs. They have deluded themselves into thinking that they are building a mini east version of the spurs. My signature is about to change.

Anybody who still thinks they have any interest in lance needs to wake up from their dream. Clifford made it clear that they only want players that fit the team and their culture.
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Re: Hornets sign Marvin Williams 2y/14mil 

Post#335 » by Elden Payton » Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:25 am

People are really this upset with this signing?

He got paid too much, but a 2 year deal isn't going to hold us back longterm.

He plays 2 positions, that we need depth in, and he is playoff seasoned, which we needed.

He's also a high character guy, who will cause zero problems for the franchise.

He's 28 years old, and we should be getting the best version of Marvin there has ever been.

His game suits both Jefferson and MKG.

Kemba/Hendo/Gilchrist/Williams/Jefferson

Kemba/MKG/Williams/Zeller/Jefferson

I wouldn't be surprised to see us run with this second lineup, quite often this season.
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Re: Hornets sign Marvin Williams 2y/14mil 

Post#336 » by They_Them_Hatin » Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:55 am

Booking my plane ticket for the championship parade now! Green font
Really nobody was giving him this not even the Jazz considering they just matched Hayward and drafted Hood.
Hopefully we can get Lance and a back up point guard with our mle for 2 years. Henderson has to go now.
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Re: Hornets sign Marvin Williams 2y/14mil 

Post#337 » by They_Them_Hatin » Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:57 am

yosemiteben wrote:We were only one game out of fifth place in the east. The only rational explanation is all other ten Eastern Conference teams were tanking.

They were though without shame but the pistons and cavs until Kyrie got hurt toward the end of the season.
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Re: Hornets sign Marvin Williams 2y/14mil 

Post#338 » by Elden Payton » Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:02 am

Is the timing of this deal a bit odd?

The Jazz matched the Hayward offer and within a few hours, Marvin was in the bag?

The Hayward+Marv deals, would have had us over the cap?

Did we make a run at Hayward, knowing that they would match, pushing Marvin lower on their list of priorities?

Obviously we were rumoured to be interested in him, I just find the timing of it all a bit odd, after thinking about it.
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Re: Hornets sign Marvin Williams 2y/14mil 

Post#339 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:10 am

Sik Infant wrote:People are really this upset with this signing?

He got paid too much, but a 2 year deal isn't going to hold us back longterm.

He plays 2 positions, that we need depth in, and he is playoff seasoned, which we needed.

He's also a high character guy, who will cause zero problems for the franchise.

He's 28 years old, and we should be getting the best version of Marvin there has ever been.

His game suits both Jefferson and MKG.


Kemba/Hendo/Gilchrist/Williams/Jefferson

Kemba/MKG/Williams/Zeller/Jefferson

I wouldn't be surprised to see us run with this second lineup, quite often this season.


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Re: Hornets sign Marvin Williams 2y/14mil 

Post#340 » by amcoolio » Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:14 am

The signing stinks, period, unless we are trading Henderson for cap space.

So stupid we are paying 13M a year for Henderson and Williams.

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