Chicago Bulls Salary Cap Calculator

qianlong · Post #41 » by **qianlong** » Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:12 pm

Awesome work!

You should contact that guy on sham sports and try to embed your calculator. Or if everything else fails write this markdeeks.

Droseisthe1 · Post #42 » by **Droseisthe1** » Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:57 pm

Awesome stuff man. How has this not been stickied yet?!

Cowbulls · Post #43 » by **Cowbulls** » Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:47 am

Okay I've played around with this a lot, and I am not the most knowledgeable at how the nba cap and money stuff works....however many of you are. So those smarter, please tell me where what I want to do wont work.

1) Boozer, cats # 1, Sac # 1, Mike James

For

Signed and traded Melo at a salary starting at $18,248,490

2) Dunleavy, Amundson, Brewer, Greg Smith, Chicago # 1

For

Signed and traded Pau Gasol at a salary starting at $8,160,970

3) Mirotic on mid level exception - $5,305,000

4) DJ on the bi-annual exception - $2,077,00

5) Kirk on min

Rose/ DJ
Butler/ Kirk
Melo/ Snell
Pau/ Mirotic
Noah/ Taj

Or Taj starts and Pau backs up Noah.....or Thibbs watched the Spurs and plays all of our bigs 25 minutes a night.

So where am I dreaming and this could never happen? Which team laughs at my trades....

drosestruts · Post #44 » by **drosestruts** » Wed Jun 18, 2014 7:14 pm

Miami was able to keep their full MLE by getting Toronto and Cleveland to agree to a Sign & Trade. How do we get New York to do this for us?

Clear enough cap to where we'd have a number Melo agrees to then say "Hey New York, if you do us the favor of a sign and trade, we'll give you a pick"?

What would this number be? If we gutted our team down to:

Noah/Smith
Gibson

Rose

#16 and #19

We'd be able to offer $16.5 mil according to the salary calculator. In year 1 of his current deal LeBron only made $14.5.

A lot matters what Melo's number is.

panthermark · Post #45 » by **panthermark** » Wed Jun 18, 2014 8:18 pm

Man, I hate it that I cannot see it from work (blocked). I guess that means I should be working.

molepharmer · Post #46 » by **molepharmer** » Wed Jun 18, 2014 9:41 pm

panthermark wrote:Man, I hate it that I cannot see it from work (blocked). I guess that means I should be working.

I'm at home and can't see it. For some reason I also can't see when people use the 'tinyurl' thingy. I'm sure both issues are related but beats me how to fix it. :banghead:

Friend_Of_Haley · Post #47 » by **Friend_Of_Haley** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 12:14 pm

drosestruts wrote:Miami was able to keep their full MLE by getting Toronto and Cleveland to agree to a Sign & Trade. How do we get New York to do this for us?

Actually that's not the case. What happened was all three agreed to take a slight decrease in order to fit in Mike Miller's salary, they did not use the MLE. The purpose of the S&T then was really that extra year allowed and the larger annual raises (partially making up for the slightly smaller year 1 salary). Both these thing are irrelevant these days, though, so yes we would be trying a S&T so as to stay over the cap and retain the MLE and BAE.

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Darius Miles Davis · Post #48 » by **Darius Miles Davis** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:13 am

Bump. Let's keep this thing on the first page for the next few days.

LoveDaBoo · Post #49 » by **LoveDaBoo** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:03 am

MarkDeeks wrote:Roster charges go up to twelve. Let's say you have 11 players, 1 roster charge, and those 12 round up to a nice even $53.2 million to a cap of $63.2 million. This means you have $10 million in cap space for the new guy - it DOESN'T mean you have $10 million plus the amount of the cap charge. The charge is not removed until after the new contract is signed.

You two are nucking futs.

Magilla_Gorilla · Post #50 » by **Magilla_Gorilla** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:43 pm

Spotrac just put out their own version of this - but it sucks compared to the OP's:

League Circles · Post #51 » by **League Circles** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:00 pm

I'd suggest maybe we put this in the stickied Bulls salary info thread.

TheJordanRule · Post #52 » by **TheJordanRule** » Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:08 pm

This feature is so great. Hey mods, can we get a sticky on this? I mean, it's the off season and we're all trying to figure out salary cap options for our roster.

T_chandlerfan · Post #53 » by **T_chandlerfan** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 11:42 pm

is the Rookie exception included? in this tool?

The NBA allows teams to sign their first-round draft choices to rookie "scale" contracts even if their payroll exceeds the cap.

and since Mirotic was selected 23rd in 2011 does this rule count for him and McDermott?

logical_art · Post #54 » by **logical_art** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 11:55 pm

Awesome. Is there a way to differentiate between salary removed via a trade vs amnestying a guy? It is different, isn't it? I'm talking about Boozer obviously for the Bulls.

Post #55 » by **Ben** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:56 pm

Figured I would bump this thread rather than making a new one to talk about the Bulls' current salary cap numbers. OldSchoolNewBulls' salary cap calculator can be found here:
http://osnb.t15.org/

You have to make some changes, such as adding in McDermott's and Randolph's salaries.

If you take out Boozer, renounce the Teague and Deng TPEs, take out the MLE (since we wouldn't be over the cap) and the BAE, and subtract Greg Smith (since KC reports that we'll be salary-dumping him to Dallas), you come up with about $10.65M in capspace. If we pay $6.5M to Gasol, that leaves $4.1M for Mirotic if he'll take that. We would also have the Room Exception of about $2.7M. The rest would have to be veteran minimum players.

Room Exception to DJ? And then veteran's minimum to Kirk and one other player?

To tell you the truth, that sounds like what the Bulls have in mind. If so, I'm hoping that we can at least get a wing like Xavier Henry or Wes Johnson for the vet minimum, but I kind of doubt that they'll be available for that amount. Maybe for 1 year, or for 2 years but with a player option for the second, if they have a chance to start at wing for a title contender. But probably not, since we wouldn't guarantee the guy a starting job.

If we could get a wing such as one of them, I'd feel OK about the offseason. Not thrilled, but pretty OK.

But as we can see below, there would be some weird things with that roster:

Rose/ DJ/ Kirk
Butler/ ? / Snell/ Butler/ Kirk
Dunleavy/ McD/ ?/ Snell
Noah/ Taj/ Mirotic/ Randolph
Pau/ Noah/ Taj

Glut of big men, as others have noted. Seems like we would just HAVE to get rid of Randolph along with Smith, although that wouldn't give us any more capspace for a wing. And man, would we be weak at wing. No real creators there. Unless we play a DJ/Rose backcourt, which doesn't seem terribly likely. But that might be our best chance of having offense all around.
DJ/ Rose/ Butler/ Noah/ Pau

Thoughts?

mostek · Post #56 » by **mostek** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 2:07 pm

I do not use it, and it does not open for me, so I can not check the numbers, but my numbers come up $500K less, do not know if it is Noah's bonus, or a cap hold, but close enough. I do not see them signing Mirotic, until they clear some cap space, by moving Randolph, probably with a pick, just for Mirotic. Any other players will have to be the RMLE, or minimum salary guys

I also do not see them keeping Hinrich, now that his Bird rights are gone. Charlotte supposedly has a nice offer on the table, but the Bulls asked him to hold off signing, until the Gasol deal was done, since they were trying for a S&T, but no reason to hold off now. DJ is more likely, since his suitors, Dallas, and Miami, only have the RMLE to work with, but probably a larger role.

They better start searching for PGs, because the better backups have been signed, and at what I consider high salaries.

Friend_Of_Haley · Post #57 » by **Friend_Of_Haley** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 2:52 pm

It would be really nice to try and get Mirotic closer to 3M. Salary dump Randolph and maybe have more than RMLE for Augustin. Then RMLE for a combo guard, like Bayless.

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Post #58 » by **Ben** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 2:58 pm

mostek wrote:I do not use it, and it does not open for me, so I can not check the numbers, but my numbers come up $500K less, do not know if it is Noah's bonus, or a cap hold, but close enough. I do not see them signing Mirotic, until they clear some cap space, by moving Randolph, probably with a pick, just for Mirotic. Any other players will have to be the RMLE, or minimum salary guys

I also do not see them keeping Hinrich, now that his Bird rights are gone. Charlotte supposedly has a nice offer on the table, but the Bulls asked him to hold off signing, until the Gasol deal was done, since they were trying for a S&T, but no reason to hold off now. DJ is more likely, since his suitors, Dallas, and Miami, only have the RMLE to work with, but probably a larger role.

They better start searching for PGs, because the better backups have been signed, and at what I consider high salaries.

If that McDermott trade winds up costing us any more than a 2nd rounder with which to dump Randolph, or else winds up costing us Mirotic this year, then unless McD becomes an absolute star (which I don't anticipate)-- much, much better than the players available at 16 and 19-- the Denver trade will wind up having been quite bad. Obviously we have to withhold judgment, but thus far I don't have the sense that our FO covers all bases and thinks things through from every technical angle.

mostek · Post #59 » by **mostek** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:11 pm

As for Anthony, league sources said he delayed his decision because he understood how strong the fit was for him in Chicago basketball-wise. He also connected with the organization during his in-person Chicago visit on July 1, particularly at a dinner with Gibson, Joakim Noah, Scottie Pippen and team Chairman Jerry Reinsdorf, among others. Signing him with cap space means the Bulls will have to get creative to add Mirotic and address perimeter depth. An amnesty of Boozer gives the Bulls roughly $10.3 million of space, much of that earmarked for Gasol. Chicago Tribune

Blazer50 · Post #60 » by **Blazer50** » Wed May 1, 2019 2:01 am

I applaud you for the work you have done and have touted the Capulator to a lot of guys who participate in the GMAT games. Love the URL feature the allows you to keep your updated rosters during the games. Takes some creativity in using it for deals - which makes NOT imposing CBA rules on trades a benefit as Players get moved around. The ability to manipulate trades to move players where you want them is nice. Terrific site - I can't imagine all the work you have put into this site! :crazy: