The Marvin Gaye Williams Thread

amcoolio · Post #401 » by **amcoolio** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:12 pm

The likelyhood of Williams working out for us at this contract is very very low. Like 10%.

Its such an out of nowhere move. Not the signing, but the amount. Cho really has to sell me on this one.

THE only possible scenerio I can think of is another team offered the MLE at 5 per for 3 or 4 years and in order to only pay him 2 years we had to go higher. But even that is unlikely, I seriously doubt any team offered more than 2 years 10 million.

If it was 2 years 10 million, I bet the negativity would be far less prevalent on this board.

Robot Rock · Post #402 » by **Robot Rock** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:47 pm

Yep, just a bad transaction all around. For a lower price, it would've been solid.

MKGsMotor · Post #403 » by **MKGsMotor** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:05 pm

Marvin will be viewed as a Hendo contract around here. When play starts, he'll be serviceable, but not above average and we'll just have to suck it up and ride out his contract. He's on overpay, but he will make us better. I bet Vonleh is Zeller-raw and we'll all be thankful that he doesn't start in November

mrknowitall215 · Post #404 » by **mrknowitall215** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:21 pm

MKGsMotor wrote:Marvin will be viewed as a Hendo contract around here. When play starts, he'll be serviceable, but not above average and we'll just have to suck it up and ride out his contract. He's on overpay, but he will make us better. I bet Vonleh is Zeller-raw and we'll all be thankful that he doesn't start in November

Indeed, but to add disappointment to insult, I think Henderson is a better player

HornetJail · Post #405 » by **HornetJail** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:35 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:
MKGsMotor wrote:Marvin will be viewed as a Hendo contract around here. When play starts, he'll be serviceable, but not above average and we'll just have to suck it up and ride out his contract. He's on overpay, but he will make us better. I bet Vonleh is Zeller-raw and we'll all be thankful that he doesn't start in November

Indeed, but to add disappointment to insult, I think Henderson is a better player

Williams is probably a 6'9 Henderson whose explosiveness is limited. Williams is yet another low-to-mid 30s shooter from deep, as if we weren't loaded with those already.

ball teacher · Post #406 » by **ball teacher** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:16 pm

Paul Pierce signed a two year 11 million dollar deal with Washington! Why are we willing to offer so much for a "backup" for MKG? Williams and Hayward were both offered ridiculous amounts of money, I'd rather keep Hendo for the amount hes paid than over spend on these two.

BeesWax · Post #407 » by **BeesWax** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:19 pm

ball teacher wrote:Paul Pierce signed a two year 11 million dollar deal with Washington! Why are we willing to offer so much for a "backup" for MKG? Williams and Hayward were both offered ridiculous amounts of money, I'd rather keep Hendo for the amount hes paid than over spend on these two.

Williams isn't a backup for MKG he is a starter for Zeller most likely. We spent money to find someone who could start at PF until one of our guys is ready for that.

Marvel · Post #408 » by **Marvel** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:24 pm

DY_nasty wrote:
fatlever wrote:we signed kwame for a 1 year, 1.3 mil deal. nobody was mad at that deal.

people were mad at the sheer fact that kwame brown was kwame brown in the same way that people are mad at williams for being williams.

the contract, sure - even though its just two years, but you don't have to dissect the thread to see who's upset at what and how illogical it is

Dude, read the thread.

catch20two · Post #409 » by **catch20two** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:41 pm

Zeller better start over this bum. Zeller is a better defender, better rebounder, and a better passer. They even scored at the same rate, around 13pts per 36. This isn't to say how good Zeller is because I'm not that high on Zeller either but just to display how much of a bum Messy Marv is. Jeremy Evans was better at PF for the Jazz too. Look up the on/off court numbers.

Vanderbilt_Grad · Post #410 » by **Vanderbilt_Grad** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:44 pm

Zeller will probably get a shot at starting, but I expect Williams to be in the starting lineup on opening night. The more interesting question is who will start at the end of the year?

catch20two · Post #411 » by **catch20two** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:45 pm

Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:Zeller will probably get a shot at starting, but I expect Williams to be in the starting lineup on opening night. The more interesting question is who will start at the end of the year?

Hopefully neither but Zeller has my edge right now.

TeaM DimE · Post #412 » by **TeaM DimE** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:45 pm

Hayward at 16 doesn't look so bad now that you guys got Marv/Roberts locked in at 10 eh?

Eoghan · Post #413 » by **Eoghan** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:48 pm

Zeller might get the MKG 4th quarter blues thanks to Marvin. So I guess Taylor will make MKG unjustly ride the pine in the 4th for #spacing.

catch20two · Post #414 » by **catch20two** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:48 pm

TeaM DimE wrote:Hayward at 16 doesn't look so bad now that you guys got Marv/Roberts locked in at 10 eh?

All of it is horse crap and cow dookie but the Hayward deal would've hindered us for 5 years. These 2 bums will only hold us back for 2 years. I like Brian Roberts tho and don't really think he's a bum or overpaid but I don't really see him as anything more than a 3rd stringer on a good team like John Lucas III.

HornetJail · Post #415 » by **HornetJail** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:50 pm

catch20two wrote:John Lucas III.

if cho browses this board and realizes JL3 played for the Jazz, i'm blaming you.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #416 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:02 pm

Pretty sure BOS would trade you Jeff Green and Brandon Bass for MKG and Biyombo..

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BlackOutBuzz · Post #417 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:04 pm

Maybe so, but we wouldn't.

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HornetJail · Post #418 » by **HornetJail** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:05 pm

I don't think there's a single player on Boston's roster that would interest me in an MKG deal.

Post #419 » by **JDR720** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:07 pm

I wouldn't trade MKG for a fish and Green

NCHeels2008 · Post #420 » by **NCHeels2008** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:11 pm

God I just had to post here how much I hated this deal.