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Re: Grunfeld a Great GM. Proves Doubters Wrong 

Post#1361 » by Dat2U » Wed Jul 2, 2014 7:21 pm

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milellie111 wrote:Grunfeld proves his value as GM by re-signing one of the top coveted free agents around the league Marcin Gortat to a market worthy deal. No other GM could pry away Marcin which we sorely needed. Him, Wall and Beal are the cornerstones and free agency is not over yet. I have confidence that Ariza will be back as well. The cap is expected to grow by $5Million which leaves room for both and then some. We should expect to have $18Million under cap

You know, the world needs more white rappers in their 50s, and I think you're just the man to represent me. What do you say? We'll be rich.


For Milellie or even EG, the guy you want as your representative is Ben Gordon's agent :)


Hell yeah, that dude is the man! Hasn't Gordon been one of the worst players in the league the past few years?
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Re: Grunfeld a Great GM. Proves Doubters Wrong 

Post#1362 » by payitforward » Wed Jul 2, 2014 10:01 pm

Dat2U wrote:
verbal8 wrote:
montestewart wrote:You know, the world needs more white rappers in their 50s, and I think you're just the man to represent me. What do you say? We'll be rich.


For Milellie or even EG, the guy you want as your representative is Ben Gordon's agent :)


Hell yeah, that dude is the man! Hasn't Gordon been one of the worst players in the league the past few years?

I'm thinking the Magic was mad because they had too low a draft pick this year! Gordon should help take care of that little problem! :lol:
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Re: Grunfeld a Great GM. Proves Doubters Wrong 

Post#1363 » by doclinkin » Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:26 am

Lose Ariza gain Paul Pierce. Classic Ernie move, undervalued proven vet landing on the squad, especially when things look bad.

Very like losing Hughes but picking up Caron to patch the hole instantly. Ernie may not have the greatest long range strategy, but he can scramble to save his own ass. I suspect he's on one year extensions on benchmarks like: make the playoffs, go further, contend for ECF, something like that.
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Re: Grunfeld a Great GM. Proves Doubters Wrong 

Post#1364 » by queridiculo » Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:03 pm

So, are the Wizards the oldest team in the East/League now?
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Re: Grunfeld a Great GM. Proves Doubters Wrong 

Post#1365 » by tontoz » Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:27 pm

right now we have 2 bigs under contract, one of whom is on the decline and injury prone. We have a 38 year old backup pg. And we have no MLE or LLE to address our lack of depth at these positions.

And if we get hit with injuries the excuse festival will start, as if other teams don't have injuries.
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Post#1366 » by nate33 » Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:05 pm

doclinkin wrote:Lose Ariza gain Paul Pierce. Classic Ernie move, undervalued proven vet landing on the squad, especially when things look bad.

Very like losing Hughes but picking up Caron to patch the hole instantly. Ernie may not have the greatest long range strategy, but he can scramble to save his own ass. I suspect he's on one year extensions on benchmarks like: make the playoffs, go further, contend for ECF, something like that.

I'm not even sure I would characterize this as "scrambling to save his ass". In this case, my guess is that EG had already had contact with Pierce when Ariza left for Houston. The knowledge that Pierce was available for 2-years $10M is what convinced them to let Ariza walk without bidding more to retain him.
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Post#1367 » by milellie111 » Sun Jul 13, 2014 2:11 pm

Give credit where credit is due. Ernie Grunfeld has never been as bad as some have made him out to be. Would you rather have Brooklyns GM?

Grunfeld is playing smart ball and has changed this team around to a destination where free agents want to sign. He's also done everything possible to ensure that Wall and Beal have the best possible environment to thrive in with key supporting players and veteran leadership. He new that Gortat was more important than Ariza which is why we let Ariza walk. Grunfeld continues to prove his value and free agency is not even over yet.
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Post#1368 » by JWizmentality » Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:47 pm

milellie111 wrote:Give credit where credit is due. Ernie Grunfeld has never been as bad as some have made him out to be. Would you rather have Brooklyns GM?

Grunfeld is playing smart ball and has changed this team around to a destination where free agents want to sign. He's also done everything possible to ensure that Wall and Beal have the best possible environment to thrive in with key supporting players and veteran leadership. He new that Gortat was more important than Ariza which is why we let Ariza walk. Grunfeld continues to prove his value and free agency is not even over yet.


Is this the only time you post? :lol:



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Post#1369 » by DCZards » Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:18 pm

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I'm not even sure I would characterize this as "scrambling to save his ass". In this case, my guess is that EG had already had contact with Pierce when Ariza left for Houston. The knowledge that Pierce was available for 2-years $10M is what convinced them to let Ariza walk without bidding more to retain him.


No doubt that EG had Pierce on hold when Ariza called to let him know that he was signing with Houston. I would have been fine with the Zards resigning Ariza for 4 yrs., $8-$9 mil but it's hard to argue with picking up The Truth instead for 2 yrs at $11 mil. In fact, it's preferable. Gives Porter a chance to develop and play big minutes--either as the starter or backup for Pierce.

Yeah, Pierce is old and slow but he's never been a player who relied on footspeed to excel...and he's smart, a competitor and a proven winner. And I really like the fact that reportedly one of the reasons he signed with the Zards is because he wants to play with Wall and Beal.
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Post#1370 » by miller31time » Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:03 pm

I'm no fan of Ernie but this was a fantastic move. Short-term and long-term.
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Post#1371 » by cdouglas » Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:32 pm

Who is the assistant coach we brought in a couple of years ago from the Spurs franchise? Since he's been here I've seen a change in our team's defense. I like the direction this franchise in heading in.
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Post#1372 » by hands11 » Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:44 pm

cdouglas wrote:Who is the assistant coach we brought in a couple of years ago from the Spurs franchise? Since he's been here I've seen a change in our team's defense. I like the direction this franchise in heading in.


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Re: Grunfeld a Great GM. Proves Doubters Wrong 

Post#1373 » by MikeTheKid » Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:36 pm

Why does this guy always come to market Ernie when something good happens? Come in and bring some insight or elaboration. Not be Mr. Kiss Ernie's Arse Man!!!
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Post#1374 » by _tr » Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:05 pm

He signed-and-traded Ariza to Huston for $8.5M TPE. Very good move. It can be very valuable for team - now or during the season.
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Post#1375 » by StrayBullet » Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:07 am

This has been a good weekend for Ernie.
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Re: Grunfeld a Great GM. Proves Doubters Wrong 

Post#1376 » by pineappleheadindc » Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:45 am

I swear that Ernie, who has had a really good few days in a row, must read this board for ideas.

In fact, perhaps he posts and participates here under a certain screen name.

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Post#1377 » by hands11 » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:10 pm

MikeTheKid wrote:Why does this guy always come to market Ernie when something good happens? Come in and bring some insight or elaboration. Not be Mr. Kiss Ernie's Arse Man!!!


To be fair.

There are more then a handful of posters here that add little insight that basically post negative crap at ever single move, rumor speculation move, injury, etc.

Are you as hard on them ?

Fact of the matter is, EG is proving doubter wrong. He still isn't the best at drafting, but he has executed the rebuild pretty well.

This last stage of tweak are very interesting. This was a huge off season for the team because of TA and Gortat and what to do with the front court. This Blair news is very interesting. So were the Humpries rumors. Playing the big picture game over TA is what many here wanted. They feared singing him for to much and to long meant no shot at the home run names KD. Well he held firm, let TA walk and got PP. A+

And if I'm not mistaken, the media now regularly talks about KD in 2016 and we seem to be actively planning for a shot at that.

And all of this is in line with the plans and time table Ted talks about which some refuse to hear. They instead say Ted if FOS. Actually, he has been very transparent and honest with that they planned on doing and where they are.
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Re: Grunfeld a Great GM. Proves Doubters Wrong 

Post#1378 » by montestewart » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:26 pm

hands11 wrote:
MikeTheKid wrote:Why does this guy always come to market Ernie when something good happens? Come in and bring some insight or elaboration. Not be Mr. Kiss Ernie's Arse Man!!!


To be fair.

There are more then a handful of posters here that add little insight that basically post negative crap at ever single move, rumor speculation move, injury, etc.

Are you as hard on them ?

Some posters are usually positive on virtually everything, some posters are usually negative on virtually everything, each side perhaps constantly irritating the other, but most of them are usually here and posting on virtually everything: every game, every move, every news report. Such posters stand apart from someone who only posts when something good or bad happens that supports a limited wizardsworldview, and usually posts an expanded variation of nyaa nyaa.

I'm not quite at great yet, but EG has been pretty impressive since last season's trade deadline. From one fan to another, Go Wiz!
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Post#1379 » by Jay81 » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:29 pm

Ernie is on his way to having a decent offseason. I dont even know who I am anymore
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Post#1380 » by hands11 » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:47 pm

montestewart wrote:
hands11 wrote:
MikeTheKid wrote:Why does this guy always come to market Ernie when something good happens? Come in and bring some insight or elaboration. Not be Mr. Kiss Ernie's Arse Man!!!


To be fair.

There are more then a handful of posters here that add little insight that basically post negative crap at ever single move, rumor speculation move, injury, etc.

Are you as hard on them ?

Some posters are usually positive on virtually everything, some posters are usually negative on virtually everything, each side perhaps constantly irritating the other, but most of them are usually here and posting on virtually everything: every game, every move, every news report. Such posters stand apart from someone who only posts when something good or bad happens that supports a limited wizardsworldview, and usually posts an expanded variation of nyaa nyaa.

I'm not quite at great yet, but EG has been pretty impressive since last season's trade deadline. From one fan to another, Go Wiz!


Fair enough.

I get that part.

And I always felt "Great" in the title was causing a problem because it was kind of a slap in the face of the board view on EG. I tried to start another thread but since some mods are not Hands11 fans, my ability to do that is limited because my thread will get merged while other threads will not. Lets just say the duplicate thread rule is not applied evenly. The board is political.

But the point of the thread like this still stands. Its was kind of rough around here for a long time for the more moderate posters who lean "glass half full" You could hardly post anything positive about the team for a long time. I know because I raged against that. And now you are reading posts from people who are returning who are pointing out the same thing.

The all negative all the time stuff drove people away.

Someone having the balls to start a thread positive about EG and the moves the team was making was not welcome here. If you question that, just got read the beginning of this thread.

Point is, the team has been rebuilding since Abe passed. The turning point was Wall getting drafted. And since then, they have made a ton of progress, they laid out a plan and they executed it pretty well and now here we are. Still not an elite team 4 years later but they do seem to be planning for the 2016 FA and KD which is something not many envisioned they would do. And its exactly what they wanted them to do. Some wanted them to build via all youngs like a PHI rebuild. Some wanted them to balance young and older.. Get good. Then swing for the fences. They are doing the 2nd thing. Both ways where viable. The 2nd one was a little more so. Plan A relies on a ton of luck and superior drafting ( not their biggest strength). Plan B allows you to mold things a little more using players you have some NBA incite about.

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