The One And Only Offseason Thread 2

[NBA Fiend]

If the Suns were looking to sign Deng in order to get Love here why don't they just front load a contract for Stephenson. Then when December rolls around swap him for Martin in the Love trade. I say this because McD is into asset accumulation and is bound and determined to do just about anything for Love.

[NBA Fiend]

I have finally done it. I have constructed a trade that will get McD Love and a stetcher.
I personally would not do this but here is my masterpiece.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kkqncbq

[NTB]

[NaturalBuns]

Let's see if Bledsoe,monroe,Stephenson news breaks today.

[TASTIC]

Ok I had a quick rosterbate at lunch:

Teague + Christmas to Indy

Stephenson (re-signed, 4yr $45m) + Len + Randolph + Sloan (last 2 for filler) + picks (not sure which, one from Suns though) to ATL

Millsap + Antic to Phoenix

Indy get a PG who fits perfect with them and allows GHill to move to the bench where his skills would fit better (if he doesn't start at SG).

ATL throw Schroeder to the lions and he starts alongside Len/Horford/Korver/Lance. Or they run Lance at PG and start Carroll alongside Korver on the wings.

Suns get two bigs who can stretch the D and Millsap is a classic veteran who only improves a team's chemistry. We keep our bench as well as both Bledsoe and Dragic. Sure we lose Len which might be a big loss, but getting an All Star back as well as a serviceable stretch 4/5 is worth it to make a run in the West. Maintain flexibility as well as Millsap's deal expires end of this year.

Plumlee / Antic
Millsap / Kieff / Marcus
Tucker / Warren
Dragic / Green / Goodwin
Bledsoe / Thomas

Sign 1-2 vets to round the roster out...Aminu and Ed Davis?

[King4Day]

Blatche is talented but he's a massive head case.

Zach Lowe:

Kidd impressed higher-ups when he unilaterally banished Andray Blatche from the team in December. The Nets couched Blatche’s absence as due to “personal reasons,” but Kidd really booted him out of concerns over his conditioning and preparedness, per multiple sources familiar with the matter. The timetable on Blatche’s absence was open-ended; Kidd told Blatche to come back only when he was ready to play. It was a suspension in all but name, and the organization privately applauded Kidd for taking a strong stance.

Wow never knew about this. If and Pierce couldn't get through to him then nobody can.
I bet a team will take a chance on him with maybe a cheap 2 year deal with a team option on the second.

[funkatron101]

I have finally done it. I have constructed a trade that will get McD Love and a stetcher.
I personally would not do this but here is my masterpiece.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kkqncbq

How many forwards do the Wolves need?!

[RaisingArizona]

I have finally done it. I have constructed a trade that will get McD Love and a stetcher.
I personally would not do this but here is my masterpiece.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kkqncbq

[matt131]

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I'd really like to have as little competition for Love as possible. Hopefully they aren't willing to give up much.

[AtheJ415]

They could offer the entire team sans Harden and Howard and I doubt it would qualify as giving up much. There's really no way Houston can trade for Love without MInny accepting an awful deal.

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I'd really like to have as little competition for Love as possible. Hopefully they aren't willing to give up much.

[Sreister]

I don't mind missing out on a Love trade if we can get another asset. McD loves to be in on trades that we aren't the center piece but end up getting the best value. Teams give up a lot to get the "prize" of the trade (Love), and don't care much about what they give up to get him. We can play clean up and get a young stud (Wiggins or any young player) and make out like bandits. I'm ok with playing rebuild for another year.

[King4Day]

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I'd really like to have as little competition for Love as possible. Hopefully they aren't willing to give up much.

I don't think they are truly in play for Love. Losing Parsons eliminated them from that IMO.
Maybe thy can snag Rondo though.

[Ryu]

Ok I had a quick rosterbate at lunch:

Teague + Christmas to Indy

Stephenson (re-signed, 4yr $45m) + Len + Randolph + Sloan (last 2 for filler) + picks (not sure which, one from Suns though) to ATL

Millsap + Antic to Phoenix

Indy get a PG who fits perfect with them and allows GHill to move to the bench where his skills would fit better (if he doesn't start at SG).

ATL throw Schroeder to the lions and he starts alongside Len/Horford/Korver/Lance. Or they run Lance at PG and start Carroll alongside Korver on the wings.

Suns get two bigs who can stretch the D and Millsap is a classic veteran who only improves a team's chemistry. We keep our bench as well as both Bledsoe and Dragic. Sure we lose Len which might be a big loss, but getting an All Star back as well as a serviceable stretch 4/5 is worth it to make a run in the West. Maintain flexibility as well as Millsap's deal expires end of this year.

Plumlee / Antic
Millsap / Kieff / Marcus
Tucker / Warren
Dragic / Green / Goodwin
Bledsoe / Thomas

Sign 1-2 vets to round the roster out...Aminu and Ed Davis?

I wouldn`t deal Len in a deal like this for the next year at least. Millsap is good, I like him, but he is expiring and we can sign him next summer and Antic is 33.

[carey]

One guy that hasn't been talked about who I think would be a great fit here is Andray Blatche.

He has a nice perimeter game, some low post moves, he can handle the rock extremely well for a big man, decent rebounder, long and athletic, and is still fairly young... he turns 28 next month. The only thing he doesn't do well is pass, but that's not really a concern for us with all the distributors we have on the team.

He may not be the answer to all our problems and is certainty not a superstar, but I think he could thrive in our system and Horny can get the most out of him. He could play either the 4 or the 5 and would be great for depth even if they don't start him, even though I think he should.

Maybe I am a bit biased because I really like his game, but he seems to be overlooked on the market right now.

There's no doubt his game would fit but the man would not. You've seen the kind of guys we are bringing in & the kind we are shipping out at this point. Zero chance this happens unless I've completely misread McDonough.

[bwgood77]

At this point, what teams are left with a need for Bledsoe that can afford $15M?

As phx#7 has posted, pretty much just Orlando and Philly who probably don't want him at that price. Milwaukee can do close to a max deal, like 4 years $55 million.

That's why the S&T scenarios have been talked about, but again, if they can get Ilyasova and Sanders, and Hornacek can get them to reach their full potential it would likely be worth it, but Bledsoe would have to go there.

If we are only willing to give him $12 million, then we could go for a S&T trade or just match. That's pretty much it except for Detroit, who I don't think have max space either, especially if they sign Monroe first.

You can't be **** serious. Nothing > Ilyasova and Sanders. Both these players have a negative trade value.

There were a lot of "ifs" in that scenario, in case you missed them. I wasn't saying I would just pull the trigger. A maxed out Bledsoe has negative trade value too though (or he'd already be maxed - see Eric Gordon who also had injury issues and was viewed as a better player than Bledsoe (is now) at the time). But I wouldn't want those guys at all unless they got back to their to their potential and/or had their head on straight.

[bwgood77]

If the Suns were looking to sign Deng in order to get Love here why don't they just front load a contract for Stephenson. Then when December rolls around swap him for Martin in the Love trade. I say this because McD is into asset accumulation and is bound and determined to do just about anything for Love.

Just because we were to sign a guy Love would want to play with (and I seriously doubt it's Deng or Stephenson anyway) the biggest problem is Minnesota being happy with our trade package. Not sure I'd trade for a bunch of guys just to make Love happy when Minnesota won't trade him to us in the first place.

[bwgood77]

I have finally done it. I have constructed a trade that will get McD Love and a stetcher.
I personally would not do this but here is my masterpiece.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kkqncbq

That's actually not a bad one, as it lets Indy get Dragic and get rid of guys they don't want, and Minnesota gets it's rim protector plus the twins. But I still don't think the Suns are better with Love than with Dragic AND the twins. And it could be a nightmare if Bledsoe gets injured and Love bolts. I don't think our team without the twins and Dragic is any better than what Love has as a supporting cast in Minnesota right now.

[bwgood77]

Ok I had a quick rosterbate at lunch:

Teague + Christmas to Indy

Stephenson (re-signed, 4yr $45m) + Len + Randolph + Sloan (last 2 for filler) + picks (not sure which, one from Suns though) to ATL

Millsap + Antic to Phoenix

Indy get a PG who fits perfect with them and allows GHill to move to the bench where his skills would fit better (if he doesn't start at SG).

ATL throw Schroeder to the lions and he starts alongside Len/Horford/Korver/Lance. Or they run Lance at PG and start Carroll alongside Korver on the wings.

Suns get two bigs who can stretch the D and Millsap is a classic veteran who only improves a team's chemistry. We keep our bench as well as both Bledsoe and Dragic. Sure we lose Len which might be a big loss, but getting an All Star back as well as a serviceable stretch 4/5 is worth it to make a run in the West. Maintain flexibility as well as Millsap's deal expires end of this year.

Plumlee / Antic
Millsap / Kieff / Marcus
Tucker / Warren
Dragic / Green / Goodwin
Bledsoe / Thomas

Sign 1-2 vets to round the roster out...Aminu and Ed Davis?

Definitely great for the Suns. Not so great for Atlanta. They'd need a pg out of it. Maybe throw in Thomas mid season but probably still doesn't get it done. I don't think Len has much trade value at all.

[Qwigglez]

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[ImNotMcDiSwear]

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Len has bulked up 27 pounds since the Suns drafted him to 260 pounds and cut his body fat percentage in half.

Keep working Alex!! Sad he won't get more court time in the next two months. But lower body strengthening will help him.

If he continues to display the confidence he exhibited on the offensive end during his one SL game, which was characterized by his solid screens, confident boxing out (rather than the paranoid style he had last year), and strong passing, I could see him taking the majority of minutes at the center spot by the end of this season.

If he could just get that jumper to go down in games. That's the biggest problem right now. He'd be huge for us if he were confident with that shot.