Rockets To Pursue Trade For Rajon Rondo Or Kevin Love

[MaxRider]

Rondo? U'd need to change that offense around since he cant shoot well. Rondo and Dwight arent bad FT shooters. Good luck there.

What the hell could they offer to get those guys anyway?

i believe they're better off trading for dragic.

problem with morey mind is he wants someone who made the all-star team
i rather get two all-star caliber player than one

[Drax]

The few assets that the Rockets have are just not appealing to Boston. DMo, Jones, Capela are all decent young big prospects, unfortunately for Houston Boston has allready three young bigs in Zeller, Sullinger and Olynyk. Beverly is also redundant due to Smart and Bradley who are defensive guards.

Unless Houston can turn their assets into a player Boston wants, the chances are very slim for a Rondo to HOU trade.

[kobe48306]

If Love or Rondo get traded let them go anywhere but Cleveland. Let's see how Queen James can do without a set team.

[Winsome Gerbil]

I still love the full out transformation of Morey from moneyball advanced stats hero to full out old school star chaser.

Does begin to look kinda pathetic though when you'll chase just ANY name, just because they are a name. Somebody sign with me! Anybody! Any position! Please! Pretty please!

[minimalist1972]

With what?

Are they gonna trade Harden?

[Rhythm043]

HOU after every single Free agent this offseason.

[texasholdem]

HOU after every single Free agent this offseason.

Neither one of those guys in a free agent and neither one will be a Rocket next year.

[greenroom31]

Don't be so sure the Rockets don't have assets, they have two young PF's and a lot of draft picks. Beverley would also be gone in a Rondo deal I'm sure

PFs and draft picks... you understand the Celtics needs so well

[Rhythm043]

HOU after every single Free agent this offseason.

Neither one of those guys in a free agent and neither one will be a Rocket next year.

I know they aren't but the fact remains they were after almost every name out there this year. My bad should have said after every FA plus these 2 now. It's good they didnt match Parson's.

[watpho71]

We heard time and again that HOU planned on matching for Parsons if Bosh signed. I don't understand the rational logic to this statement. You would think that HOU would be more likely to sign Ariza after spending big on Bosh. There was never any real logical explanation as to why they never matched for Parsons. Other than the fact they were hung out to dry by Bosh's decision, but they still had the opportunity to match for Parsons. I don't think they ever had intention to resign Parsons because Ariza was always the cheaper option for them. Any other explanations to help clear this up? Thank you.

[BallerTalk]

sometimes we make things too complicated. If I'm the Rockets: Bosh rep, if Lebron leaves can we get a guarantee that you sign? we're willing to give you 88 over 4...simple...no commitment- hold onto my assets...

Bosh gave the commitment but changed when Riley offered the full max (giving Bosh the richest contract in the NBA) at the last minute.
The Rockets were operating under bosh's agents assurances. They had to clear the necessary cap space before they could officially sign him and when they did, Riley panicked.

There is a reason why Bosh and his agent are going out of their way to say such nice things about the Rockets and how "professional" they were. They are aware of how this thing could be viewed (Boozer-esque) if the Rockets made an issue of it.

[hou_fanman]

We heard time and again that HOU planned on matching for Parsons if Bosh signed. I don't understand the rational logic to this statement. You would think that HOU would be more likely to sign Ariza after spending big on Bosh. There was never any real logical explanation as to why they never matched for Parsons. Other than the fact they were hung out to dry by Bosh's decision, but they still had the opportunity to match for Parsons. I don't think they ever had intention to resign Parsons because Ariza was always the cheaper option for them. Any other explanations to help clear this up? Thank you.

Well for starters if we singed Bosh, we would not have the money to sign Ariza. We would be going into luxury mode to re-sign Parsons. But after Cuban blew up Parsons deal those plans were scrapped regardless. No way we are going to pay a decent system player 15 mil a yr. Any who we did not sign Ariza, we actually traded for him.

[BallerTalk]

We heard time and again that HOU planned on matching for Parsons if Bosh signed. I don't understand the rational logic to this statement. You would think that HOU would be more likely to sign Ariza after spending big on Bosh. There was never any real logical explanation as to why they never matched for Parsons. Other than the fact they were hung out to dry by Bosh's decision, but they still had the opportunity to match for Parsons. I don't think they ever had intention to resign Parsons because Ariza was always the cheaper option for them. Any other explanations to help clear this up? Thank you.

Here you go:

If Houston had succeeded in signing Bosh they would have been at the salary cap with no further money to spend on free agents. Ariza would not have been an option.
However, since they had Parsons' Bird rights, they could exceed the salary cap to retain him. This was their plan.

After Bosh changed his mind, the Rockets then had salary cap space to spend on free agents, as long as they did so before matching Parsons' contract which would have put them over the cap. This is where Ariza came into play. Ariza provides similar services to Parsons but signed to a much friendlier contract at half the price. That made Parsons expendable.
Plus the fact is that if Houston had still matched Parson's contract they would have had zero cap flexibility for at least the next three years. Parsons would have been nearly impossible to trade not only because of his overpriced contract, but because he also has a trade kicker (15% I believe) that would bump his salary up to around $17 million a year for any team trading for him.

Basically, the Rockets would have matched and went over the cap if the had signed Bosh because they would have been built to win it all. After missing out on Bosh, they may still need to make a few moves and retaining Parsons would have hindered that.

[6_Rings]

Houston we have a problem! lol.

Morey damage-control. watch him fail. no way Ainge helps them plus they have nothing he wants in their roster. and he had a chance for Love using Parsons but now nada, kaput. lol.

sad thing here is this. another Dwightmare in a couple of years or shorter.

[watpho71]

We heard time and again that HOU planned on matching for Parsons if Bosh signed. I don't understand the rational logic to this statement. You would think that HOU would be more likely to sign Ariza after spending big on Bosh. There was never any real logical explanation as to why they never matched for Parsons. Other than the fact they were hung out to dry by Bosh's decision, but they still had the opportunity to match for Parsons. I don't think they ever had intention to resign Parsons because Ariza was always the cheaper option for them. Any other explanations to help clear this up? Thank you.

Here you go:

If Houston had succeeded in signing Bosh they would have been at the salary cap with no further money to spend on free agents. Ariza would not have been an option.
However, since they had Parsons' Bird rights, they could exceed the salary cap to retain him. This was their plan.

After Bosh changed his mind, the Rockets then had salary cap space to spend on free agents, as long as they did so before matching Parsons' contract which would have put them over the cap. This is where Ariza came into play. Ariza provides similar services to Parsons but signed to a much friendlier contract at half the price. That made Parsons expendable.
Plus the fact is that if Houston had still matched Parson's contract they would have had zero cap flexibility for at least the next three years. Parsons would have been nearly impossible to trade not only because of his overpriced contract, but because he also has a trade kicker (15% I believe) that would bump his salary up to around $17 million a year for any team trading for him.

Basically, the Rockets would have matched and went over the cap if the had signed Bosh because they would have been built to win it all. After missing out on Bosh, they may still need to make a few moves and retaining Parsons would have hindered that.

Well done and thanks for the explanation.

So, teams cannot sign free agents once they have reached the salary cap ($63.07, 2014-15), unless they have those players bird rights?

Is that why the Bulls had to sign Gasol first before they went over the cap with Mirotic, because they have the bird rights on Mirotic? After those two signings the Bulls are at $69.6, roughly $6 over the cap, while they are still $7 under the luxury tax.

And does that pretty much eliminate the Bulls from signing any other free agents, unless they were to shed salary via trade to get below the cap?

Thanks again.

[fuller4379]

Houston is having a worse offseason than Miami.

[hou_fanman]

We heard time and again that HOU planned on matching for Parsons if Bosh signed. I don't understand the rational logic to this statement. You would think that HOU would be more likely to sign Ariza after spending big on Bosh. There was never any real logical explanation as to why they never matched for Parsons. Other than the fact they were hung out to dry by Bosh's decision, but they still had the opportunity to match for Parsons. I don't think they ever had intention to resign Parsons because Ariza was always the cheaper option for them. Any other explanations to help clear this up? Thank you.

Here you go:

If Houston had succeeded in signing Bosh they would have been at the salary cap with no further money to spend on free agents. Ariza would not have been an option.
However, since they had Parsons' Bird rights, they could exceed the salary cap to retain him. This was their plan.


After Bosh changed his mind, the Rockets then had salary cap space to spend on free agents, as long as they did so before matching Parsons' contract which would have put them over the cap. This is where Ariza came into play. Ariza provides similar services to Parsons but signed to a much friendlier contract at half the price. That made Parsons expendable.
Plus the fact is that if Houston had still matched Parson's contract they would have had zero cap flexibility for at least the next three years. Parsons would have been nearly impossible to trade not only because of his overpriced contract, but because he also has a trade kicker (15% I believe) that would bump his salary up to around $17 million a year for any team trading for him.

Basically, the Rockets would have matched and went over the cap if the had signed Bosh because they would have been built to win it all. After missing out on Bosh, they may still need to make a few moves and retaining Parsons would have hindered that.

Well done and thanks for the explanation.

So, teams cannot sign free agents once they have reached the salary cap ($63.07, 2014-15), unless they have those players bird rights?

Is that why the Bulls had to sign Gasol first before they went over the cap with Mirotic, because they have the bird rights on Mirotic? After those two signings the Bulls are at $69.6, roughly $6 over the cap, while they are still $7 under the luxury tax.

And does that pretty much eliminate the Bulls from signing any other free agents, unless they were to shed salary via trade to get below the cap?

Thanks again.

Technically yes and technically no.

They have is draft rights which is almost like bird rights just on a rookie scale.
A player has to play for the at least 3 years before acquiring bird rights.

[Kevin Johnson]

Good thing they have Parsons on a cheap rookie contract as a trade asset..........oh wait

[your boy]

Are they going to trade Dwight or Harden to get one of them?

[SOUNDCHASER]

Rondo? U'd need to change that offense around since he cant shoot well. Rondo and Dwight arent bad FT shooters. Good luck there.

What the hell could they offer to get those guys anyway?

i believe they're better off trading for dragic.

Dragic is cheaper and younger and probably a better player to target since PHO just got IT2 and they still need to sign Bled.

Problem with Houston is Harden is not a 2 way and Dwight is looked at as having lost a step so they do not attract the other free agents as much as they thought they would.

They got Ariza on a bargain so they will still be somewhat decent but they will probably be a 7th or 6th seed or less if they fail to fill out the roster.

Morey was an idiot and screwed it all up. Should have kept Parsons and never let him reach FA. They had nothing to counter a Bosh deal if MIA maxed and they knew that going into the deal and they still blew up all their trade chips for nada. Asik Lin and Parsons gone Ariza in and now they got crap to show for it.

Cuban had it out for Morey and payback was due for him offering Dirk a max. Houston is the worst place in the world to live I was offered a job there and it was for more pay and I decided to stay in DFW and start my own biz. That city won't recover for years from this loss and Cuban schooled Morey big time. Sharktanked him all day long. LOLOLOLOLOLOL, Dwight is planning his escape now would not be surprised to hear him groaning to leave.