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Bruno Caboclo discussion thread

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On a scale from one to five, how high are you on Bruno?

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Re: Is Caboclo ready for NBA or should he be overseas? 

Post#141 » by CunningLinguist » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:25 am

youngtea wrote:
simple_jack wrote:Why in the blue hell would you want him to be stored away and be coached a way we don't him to be somewhere in europe????

Keep him here
Let him learn english
Have him go against top defenders like JJ and Ross in practice
Get him some garbage minutes (If Novak can get on the court then so should Bruno)


Relax people! HE"S STAYING HERE!



Because that is how most players are developed. On rosters where he can be challenge for minutes. Specially considering he is of no help for the team. It is like we are saying screw it we don't need a 15th player. The spurs utilize an entire roster of players they will utilize. Especially when they need help in numerous spots including a big man, a sf and also a 3rd pg.


Julyan Stone was our 15th roster spot last year. Julyan ****ing Stone! The 15th roster spot is not going to move the needle.
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Re: Is Caboclo ready for NBA or should he be overseas? 

Post#142 » by youngtea » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:26 am

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VC15Era wrote:The kid is only 18... relax people...

lol this is the Raptors board, we don't relax, we over react



Hold up. I am just asking if he should have been left overseas to develop. I want him to succeed, but I can't imagine him succeeding in the D League.
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Re: Is Caboclo ready for NBA or should he be overseas? 

Post#143 » by visionquest » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:27 am

Two factors: max minutes, highest competition.

Not sure where that is but it's not the NBA for him right now.
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Re: Is Caboclo ready for NBA or should he be overseas? 

Post#144 » by youngtea » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:27 am

CunningLinguist wrote:
youngtea wrote:
simple_jack wrote:Why in the blue hell would you want him to be stored away and be coached a way we don't him to be somewhere in europe????

Keep him here
Let him learn english
Have him go against top defenders like JJ and Ross in practice
Get him some garbage minutes (If Novak can get on the court then so should Bruno)


Relax people! HE"S STAYING HERE!



Because that is how most players are developed. On rosters where he can be challenge for minutes. Specially considering he is of no help for the team. It is like we are saying screw it we don't need a 15th player. The spurs utilize an entire roster of players they will utilize. Especially when they need help in numerous spots including a big man, a sf and also a 3rd pg.


Julyan Stone was our 15th roster spot last year. Julyan ****ing Stone! The 15th roster spot is not going to move the needle.


Yeah, but we didn't care if Stone developed in a star player. That is why he was the 15th roster spot.
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Re: Is Caboclo ready for NBA or should he be overseas? 

Post#145 » by simple_jack » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:28 am

youngtea wrote:
Raptors_Dynasty wrote:
VC15Era wrote:The kid is only 18... relax people...

lol this is the Raptors board, we don't relax, we over react



Hold up. I am just asking if he should have been left overseas to develop. I want him to succeed, but I can't imagine him succeeding in the D League.



He's 18...he won't really get minutes in Europe.
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Re: Is Caboclo ready for NBA or should he be overseas? 

Post#146 » by Raptors_Dynasty » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:29 am

youngtea wrote:
Raptors_Dynasty wrote:
VC15Era wrote:The kid is only 18... relax people...

lol this is the Raptors board, we don't relax, we over react



Hold up. I am just asking if he should have been left overseas to develop. I want him to succeed, but I can't imagine him succeeding in the D League.

Just pulling on your leg bro :P

And honestly I don't think it makes a difference where he goes. But I'd prefer to have him here with the team so we can have a closer eye on his development.
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Re: Is Caboclo ready for NBA or should he be overseas? 

Post#147 » by RaptorReloaded » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:29 am

Scarface844 wrote:And there you have it, the classic realgm overreaction thread after 1 game. Realgm>>>>


Even better your post is the only relevant point in this thread and it took until the 3rd page for someone to quote it. The rest of the thread is pointless female dog noise.
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Re: Is Caboclo ready for NBA or should he be overseas? 

Post#148 » by youngtea » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:30 am

RaptorReloaded wrote:
Scarface844 wrote:And there you have it, the classic realgm overreaction thread after 1 game. Realgm>>>>


Even better your post is the only relevant point in this thread and it took until the 3rd page for someone to quote it. The rest of the thread is pointless female dog noise.


And your post is what exactly?
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Re: Bruno Caboclo discussion thread 

Post#149 » by gutobr » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:32 am

someone told the kid was crying at bench last game.

i dont know if they put too much pressure on him, or he put too much pressure to himself.
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Re: Bruno Caboclo discussion thread 

Post#150 » by Thespianoid » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:33 am

gutobr wrote:someone told the kid was crying at bench last game.

i dont know if they put too much pressure on him, or he put too much pressure to himself.


was he actually crying?

All the information I saw was that he had a towel over his head, and "had trouble containing his emotions". That could be a euphemism for crying, or could also mean he was angry.
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Re: Is Caboclo ready for NBA or should he be overseas? 

Post#151 » by DG88 » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:35 am

Bro he's 18 years old. He needs NBA coaching and training to get better. He's not going to get the type of dedication the Raptors would give him if he's sent off to Europe. It's not what Bruno does now, it's what he does 4 years from now.
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Re: Bruno Caboclo discussion thread 

Post#152 » by gutobr » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:35 am

Thespianoid wrote:
gutobr wrote:someone told the kid was crying at bench last game.

i dont know if they put too much pressure on him, or he put too much pressure to himself.


was he actually crying?

All the information I saw was that he had a towel over his head, and "had trouble containing his emotions". That could be a euphemism for crying, or could also mean he was angry.


we dont know exactly, someone saw anything more?
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Re: Is Caboclo ready for NBA or should he be overseas? 

Post#153 » by J-Roc » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:46 am

I think we have problems. If we were a lottery team, we'd have all kinds of time to invest in him. There is nothing like NBA playing time to learn. But riding the bench, playing garbage time, or facing off in practice just extends how long it takes to learn the game. I agree we can't send him overseas until he's mature enough to handle it. So for now, we just have to hope he's such a special player he doesn't need much development other than the weight room and learning plays.
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Re: Is Caboclo ready for NBA or should he be overseas? 

Post#154 » by J-Roc » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:47 am

DG88 wrote:Bro he's 18 years old. He needs NBA coaching and training to get better. He's not going to get the type of dedication the Raptors would give him if he's sent off to Europe. It's not what Bruno does now, it's what he does 2 + 2 years from now.


fixed 8-)
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Re: Bruno Caboclo discussion thread 

Post#155 » by djsunyc » Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:03 am

bruno is 18 and does not have much basketball experience. the game right now is a bit too fast for him and he's trying to learn so many things at once. i think for him, as he continues to learn the game...is to break things down and get good at one thing to give him confidence right now. if that's shooting 3's, then he should be doing that. he really is as raw as you can get in terms of knowing the game...but he's not that raw when it comes to actually shooting.

this kid is going to take some time...but we aren't going anywhere so we can sit back and let it play out.
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Re: Is Caboclo ready for NBA or should he be overseas? 

Post#156 » by Chriscross » Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:04 am

People need to relax with Caboclo and stop riding on the emotional roller coaster

Let him spend the season with the Raptors and be able to practice with the big boys, get acclimated with our culture while adding to his skillset. He also gets some experience in the D-League

Its called patience. Something our previous regime didn't know how to do
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Re: Is Caboclo ready for NBA or should he be overseas? 

Post#157 » by kalel123 » Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:07 am

YOU need to stay overseas OP cause you and your thread takes up valuable web space on this board without really contributing anything.

You are freaking out over one summer league game and minimal salary cap hit of 20th pick and a 15th roster spot, which teams often do not use or have players in that do not play AT ALL. While ignoring all the obvious benefits of keeping him around the team, which have been stated multiple times all over these boards as well as by Masai Ujiri himself. You realize the team still has room for one more player, if they wish to add him?

Unless you'd rather have Buycks or Stone, STFU.
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Re: Is Caboclo ready for NBA or should he be overseas? 

Post#158 » by plainballing » Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:14 am

joseph235 wrote:Send the kid to North Korea. That will build up his confidence.


North Korea, as reported, was in the World Cup Finals...so maybe Caboclo will score 1000 points in North Korea.
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Re: Is Caboclo ready for NBA or should he be overseas? 

Post#159 » by plainballing » Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:15 am

I think Casey will not play Bruno some meaningful minutes...but it will be great if Bruno can play some 10 mins a night in the rotation.
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Re: Is Caboclo ready for NBA or should he be overseas? 

Post#160 » by Landomar » Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:15 am

youngtea wrote:After seeing him getting exploited in the summer league I can't understand what use it is for the team or him on our 15 man roster. Are there lots of examples of players that were not NBA ready, but were brought over to get developed on a teams roster?

Do you think the Raptors made a mistake by bringing Caboclo over this season? Should he have stayed in Braziled and played 1 more season before the Raptors brought him over?


Caboclo is turning 19 in September. When Amir Johnson entered the NBA out of high school, as a 19 year old, he played 3 games (39 minutes total) his first season. As a 20 year old (2nd season), he played 8 games (124 minutes total). As a 21 year old (3rd season), he played 62 games (764 minutes total, or 12 minutes per game). Amir spent a lot of time in Detroit sitting on the bench as he developed, and there are other guys drafted out of high school that also developed this way.

I'm expecting this kind of progression from Bruno, given his current skill set. The first two years, he'll likely be sitting in a suit behind the bench / going down to the d-league from time to time. Year three is when he will probably start making a bid for a spot in the rotation.

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