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Post#561 » by DrewBynum77 » Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:49 am

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DrewBynum77 wrote:Ok people, what can we realistically (pushing a bit) get from Chicago if we S&T Gasol? Another question: we know Bulls owner is considered 'cheap' so what we can get if we also take on Boozer's contract on that S&T?

I'm talking about pics, future pics, future assets, etc. Thanks in advance!

Btw, I don't want anyone with long questionable or bad contracts. 2 years max. Maxing a guy like Bledsoe right now would kill it for me.

Let's suck for 1 or 2 more years... I don't really care.


we have no more cap space and I wouldn't ask Chi for to much for Pau S&T if they're winning to take Nash back knowing he takes a buy out or retires, something like

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LA-Chi 2015 1st, Sac 1st, Boozer


Edit: we can't do that, apparently... If we could I'd do that! I also don't want to see Pau on a west team for sentimental reasons.
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Post#562 » by jay51024 » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:24 am

If Pau chooses to go to OKC, I would like to see the Lakers do a sign and trade. Would this be possible:
LA sign-and-trades Pau Gasol in exchange for the expiring contract of Kendrick Perkins, and Jeremy Lamb?
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Post#563 » by Pointgod » Sat Jul 12, 2014 2:18 am

jay51024 wrote:If Pau chooses to go to OKC, I would like to see the Lakers do a sign and trade. Would this be possible:
LA sign-and-trades Pau Gasol in exchange for the expiring contract of Kendrick Perkins, and Jeremy Lamb?


No. We spent our capspace already. I know OKC has a trade exemption worth around 7 million. We can sign Pau for a trade exemption and a 1st rounder. Better than nothing.
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Post#564 » by Jajwanda » Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:51 am

The translation said in the absence of a sign and trade. Hill hasn't signed yet for a reason. Mitch isn't an idiot if a S and T is possible hell make it. The Lakers would have almost an identical amount of room with the room exception afterwards.
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Post#565 » by JSuri4 » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:53 am

Is there any way we can free up cap space to have a realistic shot at ariza deng or stephenson?
Any trade ideas?
How will the lakers do next season?


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Post#566 » by Mirjalovic » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:53 am

jay51024 wrote:If Pau chooses to go to OKC, I would like to see the Lakers do a sign and trade. Would this be possible:
LA sign-and-trades Pau Gasol in exchange for the expiring contract of Kendrick Perkins, and Jeremy Lamb?


Lamb is really ordinary SG. So average at anything. I'll try to get Adams.
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Post#567 » by aaron_gray » Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:44 am

So if we add Dunleavy, we essentially have 20 mil in expiring contracts. That's still max level cap room. Problem is, nobody's going to sign here without a solid foundation.
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Post#568 » by kbrow20 » Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:20 am

I was wondering would a Love trade work for Lakers?

Wednesday amnesty Boozer

S&T Kelly, Marshall, and Randle + a pick for Love and Martin?
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Post#569 » by Slava » Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:22 am

kbrow20 wrote:I was wondering would a Love trade work for Lakers?

Wednesday amnesty Boozer

S&T Kelly, Marshall, and Randle + a pick for Love and Martin?


If Love wants to come here we could just delay a season and sign him in free agency. Ain't no point in trading anything of value to get him now.
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Post#570 » by TyCobb » Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:24 am

What's the point of signing Love when you have Randle?
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Post#571 » by kbrow20 » Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:26 am

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kbrow20 wrote:I was wondering would a Love trade work for Lakers?

Wednesday amnesty Boozer

S&T Kelly, Marshall, and Randle + a pick for Love and Martin?


If Love wants to come here we could just delay a season and sign him in free agency. Ain't no point in trading anything of value to get him now.


I doubt he would just sign with Lakers since their is so many other options to win quicker.
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Post#572 » by TyCobb » Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:27 am

So we should trade for him then lose him in FA?
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Post#573 » by Slava » Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:29 am

TyCobb wrote:So we should trade for him then lose him in FA?


This. Mitch was caught with his pants down once, he won't repeat the same mistake again. Atleast with Dwight we knew he'd put us over the top but this team aint much with or without Love.
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Post#574 » by kbrow20 » Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:55 am

Slava wrote:
TyCobb wrote:So we should trade for him then lose him in FA?


This. Mitch was caught with his pants down once, he won't repeat the same mistake again. Atleast with Dwight we knew he'd put us over the top but this team aint much with or without Love.


Love is better than Howard and Love would resign. Love can also help you bring in a free agent next summer since you have Kobe and Love. Don't Kobe deserve a chance to contend in his last two years.
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Post#575 » by tugs » Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:37 am

the same was said with Dwight. risking on taking Love this year and losing a prized rookie as well then coming on to next year with a 50% chance of Love staying isn't worth it. if you are saying that Love will be a draw next year for FAs, still doesn't change anything if he'll sign next season. at the start of free agency sign him and if he really is a draw then the rest will follow. he doesn't have to be a Laker this year.

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Love + FA

2015-2016
Love+Randle+FA

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Post#576 » by EArl » Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:44 am

The only way I trade for Love is if he signs an extension. If not ill take my chances with Randle and have a chance at Love in free agency and if not other players.
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Post#577 » by aaron_gray » Mon Jul 14, 2014 4:18 am

Please don't tell me Russell Westbrook is the only marquee free agent target left that has any realistic ties to Cali.
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Post#578 » by zuju » Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:57 am

I am really disappointed that we lost gasol with nothing return. The trigger for the okafor deal should have been put so that we can get at least 2 picks.
Yes, keep our stance is important. However, GM are supposed to make the most out of trades for the team.
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Post#579 » by Dr Aki » Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:47 am

zuju wrote:I am really disappointed that we lost gasol with nothing return. The trigger for the okafor deal should have been put so that we can get at least 2 picks.
Yes, keep our stance is important. However, GM are supposed to make the most out of trades for the team.


phoenix wasn't offering any picks whatsoever

i don't know how you can force a team to trade picks for someone they were lukewarm on
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Post#580 » by tlifeset » Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:17 am

I want to take a moment and talk about revisionist history and how it might help us going forward.

What has always made the Lakers great was their willingness to be bold. And regardless of how you remember the deal, the trade for Pau Gasol was a bold move.

First of all, Gasol was a player making max salary as the leader of a team that we swept THREE TIMES in the playoffs. He would never go back to look, but in his annual "trade value column", Bill Simmons had Pau Gasol in the 40s because of his inflated contract and his label as "soft". When that trade was made, there wasn't one single pundit (not even Kobe himself) who would have foreseen the success they had. Kobe seemed to mesh better with a foreign player who was more than willing to be his second banana.

I bring this up because I think I see an opportunity to be bold once again without a huge commitment - or at least it's worth looking into it...

Danilo Gallinari was the centerpiece of the Melo trade from NYC. He had a good first year in Denver - sort of reminded me of a bigger/stronger Manu, but then suffered an ACL injury that has knocked him out of the league for the last year and a half. He is drastically overpaid now, making nearly over 22 mill for the next 2 years. I'm not sure if Denver is looking to cut salary, but they do have a pretty inflated payroll between Ty Lawson, Danilo, Javale McGee and Afflalo... their payroll is around 70 mill.

I'm fairly certain that Steve Nash would elect to retire if he was traded to Denver or at least agree to a buy out - but I'm not sure. We don't really have much except both Houston picks (1st and 2nd) that we could package with the contract. But that maybe all it takes?

I'm sure the Denver board would disagree because fans overvalue their own players, but he is an interesting target. Seems like he would mesh well with Kobe - he is foreign, has a relentless style and seems like he would be a good match for LA (city) as well.

Again, next year when Kobe, Galo and Randle team up with Rondo and they win it all ... the world can look back and say that it was a one-sided trade (ala Pau), but the truth is that is was a big risk. It was bold. And that's when the Lakers are at their best.

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