Houston Not Matching Chandler Parsons Offer Sheet

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Re: Houston Not Matching Chandler Parsons Offer Sheet 

Post#321 » by gmoney411 » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:04 am

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baki wrote: This seems like a dish at Lin and Asik to me, what were they at Houston? Chopped liver? Seems like its not just Morey treating players like commodity, some of their fans do it too :roll:


I'm guessing you missed the part where i said Asik was a very good player.


Not at all, in fact I quoted that and your hypocrisy at the same time. "Asik WAS a very good player but Howard came along so bye bye Asik".

The fact that you seem to treat Asik and Lin in particular as chopped liver just as Morey did, so I'm not sure if you even watched the Rockets played. I watched every single game they play even when they were on the bench. Just re-read my post several times if you're still not convinced.


You are on another level of analysis. I'm not debating the properness of Morey's tactics and how he treats players but instead what the players did on the court last year. Dwight taking Asik's spot and all the bye bye stuff is irrelevant to me. What they brought to the Rockets last year wasn't a lot based on circumstances and fit. They can be replaced. I'm guessing that you are taking some ethical/loyalty type stance on this but I am unwilling to debate that with you.
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Re: Houston Not Matching Chandler Parsons Offer Sheet 

Post#322 » by gmoney411 » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:08 am

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ocelot17 wrote:Morey on the radio this morning: "The reality is, to win a title, you have to be the team who finds Chandler Parsons... not the team that pays Chandler Parsons a max contract..." Shots fired lol.


Morey has no clue what it takes to win a championship, hell he has no clue what it takes to get out of the 2nd round.


Sure he does. He knows that if he had got LeBron James he would have made it out of the second round this year with a good shot at a championship. Just because he hasn't been able to do it doesn't mean he doesn't know what it takes.
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Re: Houston Not Matching Chandler Parsons Offer Sheet 

Post#323 » by daba » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:12 am

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ocelot17 wrote:Morey on the radio this morning: "The reality is, to win a title, you have to be the team who finds Chandler Parsons... not the team that pays Chandler Parsons a max contract..." Shots fired lol.


Morey has no clue what it takes to win a championship, hell he has no clue what it takes to get out of the 2nd round.


Sure he does. He knows that if he had got LeBron James he would have made it out of the second round this year with a good shot at a championship. Just because he hasn't been able to do it doesn't mean he doesn't know what it takes.


He doesn't.
He hired Kevin McHale as the Rockets coach.
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Re: Houston Not Matching Chandler Parsons Offer Sheet 

Post#324 » by gmoney411 » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:28 am

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Morey has no clue what it takes to win a championship, hell he has no clue what it takes to get out of the 2nd round.


Sure he does. He knows that if he had got LeBron James he would have made it out of the second round this year with a good shot at a championship. Just because he hasn't been able to do it doesn't mean he doesn't know what it takes.


He doesn't.
He hired Kevin McHale as the Rockets coach.


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Re: Houston Not Matching Chandler Parsons Offer Sheet 

Post#325 » by baki » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:35 am

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ocelot17 wrote:Morey on the radio this morning: "The reality is, to win a title, you have to be the team who finds Chandler Parsons... not the team that pays Chandler Parsons a max contract..." Shots fired lol.


Morey has no clue what it takes to win a championship, hell he has no clue what it takes to get out of the 2nd round.


Sure he does. He knows that if he had got LeBron James he would have made it out of the second round this year with a good shot at a championship. Just because he hasn't been able to do it doesn't mean he doesn't know what it takes.


Haha! You are grasping at straws here, any team would have made it out of the second round with Lebron James.

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Re: Houston Not Matching Chandler Parsons Offer Sheet 

Post#326 » by CrazyB0y » Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:31 am

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East Bay Sports wrote:Morey is an idiot, though he did get **** on by Bosh a bit. I never understood why they would not pick up Parsons' option.. now they suddenly want to try and deal for Rondo or Love, when Parsons on a $900,000 contract would have been their best asset by a mile.

lol, good going Morey.


idiot doesnt land you 2 superstars 2 offseasons in a row...leting parsons is probably part of howard deal...cause they have the same agent...

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if not for the league saving Morey and his job by nixing the Gasol (and later Nene) deal that would've went Houstons way in the CP3 sweepstakes, Morey would be without a job by now.

think about it... he signed all those papers that would've sent the Rockets into mediocrity for the next 3-4 years.

I don't call that smart, but really lucky.
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Re: Houston Not Matching Chandler Parsons Offer Sheet 

Post#327 » by Freefloater » Tue Jul 15, 2014 7:38 am

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East Bay Sports wrote:Morey is an idiot, though he did get **** on by Bosh a bit. I never understood why they would not pick up Parsons' option.. now they suddenly want to try and deal for Rondo or Love, when Parsons on a $900,000 contract would have been their best asset by a mile.

lol, good going Morey.


idiot doesnt land you 2 superstars 2 offseasons in a row...leting parsons is probably part of howard deal...cause they have the same agent...

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if not for the league saving Morey and his job by nixing the Gasol (and later Nene) deal that would've went Houstons way in the CP3 sweepstakes, Morey would be without a job by now.

think about it... he signed all those papers that would've sent the Rockets into mediocrity for the next 3-4 years.

I don't call that smart, but really lucky.


every single person needs a bit of luck to even survive...let alone thrive...think about it....

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Re: Houston Not Matching Chandler Parsons Offer Sheet 

Post#328 » by Freefloater » Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:26 am

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You realize your best player is known to be one of the worst defensive players in the league right? Does that mean you think Harden is overpaid too?


Harden is a SUPERSTAR.... you may forgive no d with superstar player like Harden...only few people in the world can do what tHE BEARD is doing on offense...while Parsons is only an average nba player on offense...slightly above average at best...


Dude did not show up in the playoffs defensively or offensively, I think 98 year old Ray Allen would have done just as good with better defense than Harden.



perhaps so...i am also not in love with superstars especially a bit deficient ones like the beard but you stil pay him for popularity/marketing reason and he is magnet for other superstars.. dwight wouldnt be in houston without the beard...lakers would earn 1 billion tv deal without shamles chucker k...
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Re: Houston Not Matching Chandler Parsons Offer Sheet 

Post#329 » by ChrisTheFuturePaul » Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:49 am

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ChrisTheFuturePaul wrote:I dont get how so many people are blowing up about teams overpaying free agents yet when Morey lets someone walk who he felt wasnt worth the contract every calls him a fail? Houston wants to win now, Ariza is only a very slight downgrade to Parsons that won't cost you games.





That's not the point. Most people agree is more than they would be willing to pay. Morey's unforced blunder was declining the 1 year option left on Parsons contract. The option would kept him around for another year at a miniscule salary. He felt that since he would be a restricted FA that he would be able to resign him cheap and he miscalculated terribly.


You can't be sure of that, in fact I think RFA's tend to get higher than market value offers because the team chasing doesn't want the other to match. Perhaps Morey felt like with such a stacked FA market this year Parsons wouldnt get as much attention. Especially with LeBron, Melo, Deng, Ariza, Pierce, Haywood as other starting calibre SF's out there.
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Re: Houston Not Matching Chandler Parsons Offer Sheet 

Post#330 » by TaylorMonkey » Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:22 pm

gmoney411 wrote:
princeofpalace wrote:
ocelot17 wrote:Morey on the radio this morning: "The reality is, to win a title, you have to be the team who finds Chandler Parsons... not the team that pays Chandler Parsons a max contract..." Shots fired lol.


Morey has no clue what it takes to win a championship, hell he has no clue what it takes to get out of the 2nd round.


Sure he does. He knows that if he had got LeBron James he would have made it out of the second round this year with a good shot at a championship. Just because he hasn't been able to do it doesn't mean he doesn't know what it takes.

So the plan is get Lebron James.

What unique genius.
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Re: Houston Not Matching Chandler Parsons Offer Sheet 

Post#331 » by The Hypnotoad » Fri Jul 18, 2014 3:15 am

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This is similar to the Carlos Boozer situation for the Cavs years back. The lesson, never trust a free agent player. If you got them under contract for cheap, keep them under contract for cheap, regardless of how angry they get, they'll forgive you if you pay them enough next time. :lol:


Indeed. Even if Parsons hit UFA status next season, the Rox could still have offered more money and years than any other team could. Massive miscalculation on Morey's part.


So, what, Parsons shouldn't have signed the sheet? Can't blame a player for taking what's on the table. Parsons made no promises to Houston.


I'm not blaming Chandler for doing whats best for himself, the same way Houston should have done whats best for their team and keep Chandler for the year for cheap.
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Re: Houston Not Matching Chandler Parsons Offer Sheet 

Post#332 » by JasonStern » Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:27 pm

Freefloater wrote:
East Bay Sports wrote:Morey is an idiot, though he did get **** on by Bosh a bit. I never understood why they would not pick up Parsons' option.. now they suddenly want to try and deal for Rondo or Love, when Parsons on a $900,000 contract would have been their best asset by a mile.

lol, good going Morey.


idiot doesnt land you 2 superstars 2 offseasons in a row...leting parsons is probably part of howard deal...cause they have the same agent...


exactly! Morey showed a robotic demeanor using statistical analysis and logic instead of emotions! he clearly violated the CBA with an under-the-table agreement that Howard went along with despite getting absolutely nothing out of it and having zero assurance that Morey would actually go through with this unprovable secret handshake deal. he would never miscalculate the interest in Parsons' in free agency! that would imply that he is fallible.
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