OKC Starting SG?

[HeartSouloma]

So who should start? I'm all in for Andre Roberson to start, due to his length, strength, athleticism, defensive minded, good rebound-er. A back-court with WB n Roberson is not bad. Offense his is issues. Wouldn't mind starting Lamb as well.

http://www.welcometoloudcity.com/2014/7 ... ing-lineup

Jeremy Lamb
Reggie Jackson
Perry Jones
Anthony Morrow
Andre Roberson

Or sign another cheap SG like Wesley Johnson, or Austin Rivers ( ha), Xavier Henry?

[spearsy23]

If Perkins starts I want Morrow or Lamb. If Adams starts I want Reggie/Roberson

I actually like the idea of Perry, I just don't think there's a chance.

[HeartSouloma]

If Perkins starts I want Morrow or Lamb. If Adams starts I want Reggie/Roberson

I actually like the idea of Perry, I just don't think there's a chance.

Perkins is going to start. Maybe Morrow might start

[spearsy23]

If Perkins starts I want Morrow or Lamb. If Adams starts I want Reggie/Roberson

I actually like the idea of Perry, I just don't think there's a chance.

Perkins is going to start. Maybe Morrow might start

Well sure, but you said who 'should' start. Perk shouldn't, Reggie should. Who will start? Who the fudge knows. The thought that Andre Roberson is most likely means we're thinking Brooks cares more about his idea of what he wants from the position than who is actually the right answer. There's zero question that all of PJIII, RJ, Lamb and Morrow are better players overall, I'd be a little disappointed in Brooks if Roberson started without having improved his shooting.

[bondom34]

Personally, I want Reggie to, particularly if Perk starts. If Adams starts, I still like Reggie, but would be OK w/ Roberson. Lamb's SL performance worries me currently, but I hope I'm wrong.

[kd 35]

I think you could make a case for all of them since each option would bring different qualities to the table. I know Brooks likes to stick to his guns with permanent lineups but it makes sense to start certain guys for certain match-ups since there isn't a clear choice. I do think we'll still see Jackson finish games at the 2 but if I were to guess, I'd say Roberson will start.

[spearsy23]

Personally, I want Reggie to, particularly if Perk starts. If Adams starts, I still like Reggie, but would be OK w/ Roberson. Lamb's SL performance worries me currently, but I hope I'm wrong.

If Reggie has improved his three point shooting he should start no matter what, if not I'm afraid relegating him to Thabo's role is going to have the offense performing worse than last year once you account for him not being able to run the second unit. Really, I think Morrow may be the best option as Reggie and Lamb seemed to play well together when they got opportunities last year and neither is very good defensively so you're not losing much with Morrow.

I really wish Brooks would give Perry an extended look at the two though. He's the best combo 3/D guy on the bench.

Edit: another thing about PJ, I've always wanted to see a team go big like that
6'3"/6'11"/6'12" /6'10/7'0
That would be insane length to contest passes and shots. Hell, if Michael Carter Williams is still on the trade block let's get him just for the novelty!

[kd 35]

Personally, I want Reggie to, particularly if Perk starts. If Adams starts, I still like Reggie, but would be OK w/ Roberson. Lamb's SL performance worries me currently, but I hope I'm wrong.

If Reggie has improved his three point shooting he should start no matter what, if not I'm afraid relegating him to Thabo's role is going to have the offense performing worse than last year once you account for him not being able to run the second unit. Really, I think Morrow may be the best option as Reggie and Lamb seemed to play well together when they got opportunities last year and neither is very good defensively so you're not losing much with Morrow.

I really wish Brooks would give Perry an extended look at the two though. He's the best combo 3/D guy on the bench.

I agree, I hope PJ gets more opportunities. I think we might see him break out a bit this season.

[bondom34]

Personally, I want Reggie to, particularly if Perk starts. If Adams starts, I still like Reggie, but would be OK w/ Roberson. Lamb's SL performance worries me currently, but I hope I'm wrong.

If Reggie has improved his three point shooting he should start no matter what, if not I'm afraid relegating him to Thabo's role is going to have the offense performing worse than last year once you account for him not being able to run the second unit. Really, I think Morrow may be the best option as Reggie and Lamb seemed to play well together when they got opportunities last year and neither is very good defensively so you're not losing much with Morrow.

I really wish Brooks would give Perry an extended look at the two though. He's the best combo 3/D guy on the bench.

Edit: another thing about PJ, I've always wanted to see a team go big like that
6'3"/6'11"/6'12" /6'10/7'0
That would be insane length to contest passes and shots. Hell, if Michael Carter Williams is still on the trade block let's get him just for the novelty!

I agree completely w/ PJ, he may be my personal second choice. I haven't seen enough of Morrow yet, and don't feel as comfortable with throwing a new guy into the starting role w/o seeing him on the team a little bit first. I think PJ has still shown more to me on both ends of the court than Lamb, who seems to float on offense some and really just needs to work on defense more. PJ's length would be insane in that lineup.

[OlDirtMcBert]

Lamb. Time to sink or swim, youngin.

[bbms]

I don't like the starting backcourt of Reggie Jackson and Westbrook. Our offense is not sofisticated enough to accomodate the two of them without entering a isolation show.

Lamb has serious confidence issues. Brooks should either give him a vow of confidence and wait for it to happen, or just gie up on the boy. I'd start either him or Morrow.

[wizkid27]

My easy answer would be to adjust it night to night based on matchups... If we play somebody with a big post threat, I'm still probably going with Perk. If they have a big time scorer on the wing, I'm starting Roberson. If they have both, I'm probably going with Roberson and Adams because Adams can play D but I'm not sure Lamb/Morrow/Jackson can.

Past that, I'd start Lamb with Perk (more creativity scoring than Morrow) and Roberson with Adams (the bench will need some scoring punch if they're trotting out Perk with the second unit).

Personally don't get what role Perk has with the second unit because if the other team has a big that is a good enough scorer to warrant using Perk on him, then they're starting him.

[Kizz Fastfists]

I really don't see Perkins coming off the bench. I hope they reduce his minutes down to around 12-15 a game, but I expect it to be the first 6 minutes of each half and not coming in with 3-4 minutes left in the 1st/3rd and leaving 2-3 minutes into the 2nd/4th.

[wizkid27]

I really don't see Perkins coming off the bench. I hope they reduce his minutes down to around 12-15 a game, but I expect it to be the first 6 minutes of each half and not coming in with 3-4 minutes left in the 1st/3rd and leaving 2-3 minutes into the 2nd/4th.

I agree with this (if I'm the coach). Sometimes I can't tell what Brooks will do though...

I'd like to see him at that 12-15 mpg level. However, I would love 20+mpg against teams with big time post scorers and literally ZERO against teams without them. I think it will ultimately end up being ~16 against teams with them and ~12 against teams without them. Then again, I have to say, Scott proved me wrong with some of his ability to make adjustments this season too.

[jackson77]

Brooks will never change its attitude (stubborn), Perkins may be just the starter against Houston, Memphis, SA, LAC, Minnesota and several other teams .....
Against the rest of the league, more harm than good ...

[Kizz Fastfists]

Most teams, even the "small ball" ones, start a legitimate center. Porland has Lopez, Phoenix has Plumlee, Brooklyn has Lopez, Golden State has Bogut, etc. The Heat are the only team that stands out as an exception and after their roster shake-up that could change. The issue is when Perkins plays against their smaller lineups. Some teams have good enough big men that can force a team to play bigger then they ideally want, San Antonio, Memphis and the Clippers all have that ability.

By starting Perkins and bringing in Adams off the bench OKC might be able to force teams to play a center they would rather not play. If Adams continues to develop his hook shot, which looked solid in the Summer League, and add another post move he'll overpower small ball lineups and force teams to play their back of the bench center for the size. That will give them a bad player on the floor who will make it slightly harder on Adams on offense, but give them almost nothing when they are on offense.

[BrianDavis]

Roberson will get the starting spot at the beginning of the season, but I imagine that it isnt a guarantee hell keep it all year. I'd prefer to see PJ3 in the starting lineup though.

[spearsy23]

Most teams, even the "small ball" ones, start a legitimate center. Porland has Lopez, Phoenix has Plumlee, Brooklyn has Lopez, Golden State has Bogut, etc. The Heat are the only team that stands out as an exception and after their roster shake-up that could change. The issue is when Perkins plays against their smaller lineups. Some teams have good enough big men that can force a team to play bigger then they ideally want, San Antonio, Memphis and the Clippers all have that ability.

By starting Perkins and bringing in Adams off the bench OKC might be able to force teams to play a center they would rather not play. If Adams continues to develop his hook shot, which looked solid in the Summer League, and add another post move he'll overpower small ball lineups and force teams to play their back of the bench center for the size. That will give them a bad player on the floor who will make it slightly harder on Adams on offense, but give them almost nothing when they are on offense.

Adams is nowhere near good enough offensively to dictate rotations for other teams. Unless he kills them on the glass, or suddenly leaps two years ahead of schedule, he'll have zero effect on who plays for the other team.

[Space Dracula]

Andre Roberson is the only option who has played with the other four starters (KP-SI-KD-RW) for a suitably large sample of minutes. In 60+ minutes last season that lineup with Roberson was +11.7 points per 100 possessions. Roberson also started when Perkins was out as well, replaced by Adams, and that group was also quite successful at +24.7 points per 100 possessions.

Perry Jones started six games last year when Thabo first got injured and was also part of a successful starting group -- but Perkins was not playing in any of those games.

I'd say it's between those two at the moment. Jeremy Lamb would be the best option if he can handle it, but I'm not sure he could. Big camp and preseason for him. Reggie Jackson may be my first choice but it won't happen. Anthony Morrow seems suited to bench work, lets him be a part of more lineup combinations.

[bondom34]

Pretty much sums up everything I would say Space Dracula.