The One And Only Offseason Thread 3

PassWarden · Post #181 » by **PassWarden** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:44 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/paulcoro/status/489163238295101440[/tweet]

Best of luck to Ish!

Post #182 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:50 pm

Seems like Houston would make a pretty good bid on him since they struck out on their PF goals and since he expires after a year, but [tweet]https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/489153777854078978[/tweet]

0013 · Post #183 » by **0013** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:51 pm

I think some of you are underestimating the revitalizing effect of our training staff on older players. I'd like Boozer in a Birdman type, 15-20 minutes a night vet big off the bench role. Same with Elton Brand. Get a few experienced veterans to provide leadership, teach our young guys some tricks, and fix our front court depth issues.

Sunsdeuce · Post #184 » by **Sunsdeuce** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:52 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/jonbloom/status/489164839185813504[/tweet]

Gorilla Warfare · Post #185 » by **Gorilla Warfare** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:52 pm

To be honest if Boozer can be had for under $6 million we have to make a bid. He's a veteran, and he's not flat out terrible, nothing more need be said.

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sunsbum · Post #186 » by **sunsbum** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:54 pm

Carlos's per 36 stats were right on par with where they have been for the past 8 years. I'm not a fan but we are hurting and he can still rebound and score.

YouTube · Post #187 » by **Kerrsed** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:03 pm

nashrambler13 · Post #188 » by **nashrambler13** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:04 pm

I'm so hungry for a FA signing I would take Boozer right now. Well, I could talk myself in to ANYONE right now. (Except Lance. Anyone but Lance)

Saberestar · Post #189 » by **Saberestar** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:06 pm

NaturalBuns wrote:Rubio upside is still way higher then Eric Bledsoe if you ask me.
He's 23, dragic wasn't even considered good till last year.

Rubio has all the tools and is probably gonna have a longer career
Minnesota wouldn't trade Bledsoe for Rubio

Rubio was an outstanding prospect, he was propably the best player in the world at 16 years old.Spain was tremedous and won a ton of titles at the young's categories with him leading the way.
He has made very little progress since then so I think he is overrated.

Sunsdeuce · Post #190 » by **Sunsdeuce** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:21 pm

Kerrsed wrote:

or both

WeekapaugGroove · Post #191 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:40 pm

You guys do realize boozer is James harden level bad at defense right? I guess I'd rather just give those minutes to marcus and Warren.

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YouTube · Post #192 » by **Kerrsed** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:41 pm

Sunsdeuce wrote:or both

Robinsons contract is much cheaper, will never be a starter as long as they have Aldridge (who looks like a lifer), and already has a connection to us.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/NBATV/status/488099454768402433[/tweet]

Im sure we could swing a trade with the Blazers for something as small as a future 1st.

bigfoot · Post #193 » by **bigfoot** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:44 pm

sunsbum wrote:Can someone please tell my how the **** you can overate a All NBA 3rd team player that shot an incredible 50/40% and 20ppg? You can hop on the overrated Goran train all you want but you'll just looking really **** silly. That's why there's literally 2 or 3 of you. Listen, Gogi is everything the Suns want in terms of player and personality. He's basically the new age Steve Nash. It would honestly be such an infuriatingly terrible basketball decision if we traded him. Which is why we won't. He wants to be here, management wants him here and Phoenix loves the **** out of him.

Just so people know the 20pt/50/40 club is pretty limited.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... rder_by=ws

If Dragic hits those numbers again this year he is a max player.

Post #194 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:45 pm

I'm interested to know which teams want Boozer.

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1335234&view=viewpoll

viewtopic.php?f=53&t=1335659&view=viewpoll

Post #195 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:46 pm

bigfoot wrote:
sunsbum wrote:Can someone please tell my how the **** you can overate a All NBA 3rd team player that shot an incredible 50/40% and 20ppg? You can hop on the overrated Goran train all you want but you'll just looking really **** silly. That's why there's literally 2 or 3 of you. Listen, Gogi is everything the Suns want in terms of player and personality. He's basically the new age Steve Nash. It would honestly be such an infuriatingly terrible basketball decision if we traded him. Which is why we won't. He wants to be here, management wants him here and Phoenix loves the **** out of him.

Just so people know the 20pt/50/40 club is pretty limited.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... rder_by=ws

If Dragic hits those numbers again this year he is a max player.

Wow, Amare over 40% from 3! 3 for 7 :lol:

Edit...oh wow..just noticed he did it twice....10 for 23 the other time. Pretty crazy.

bigfoot · Post #196 » by **bigfoot** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:48 pm

Scutt wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:
Scutt wrote:
You just answered your own question. Dragic put those numbers for ONE year and couldn't lead his team to the playoffs, that is a far cry from what Steve Nash did. There is a reason the man has two MVP's.

Nash's team made the playoffs last year?

Maybe we should trade for Love, because he put up those great numbers and led his team to the playoffs...wait, sorry, no he didn't, he must suck then.

Did I say anything about Nash making the playoff's last year? No. Do you forget that Steve Nash was on the Suns and led us to the Western Conference finals multiple times? That is why I mentioned his two MVP's. No one is comparing a 39 year old Nash to Dragic, that is laughable.

But you are right, how stupid of me, Goran Dragic averaged 20 points a game and led the Suns to the 9th seed, he must be a superstar. Why should we go after Love, we have our franchise player in Goran Dragic, lets max him out right now! He can lead us for years, chasing that last playoff spot, that's what superstars do. Yay, I am so excited.

Anyone on this board that puts Goran Dragic in the same conversation as Steve Nash has no right to call themselves a Suns fan.

No but people scream for Love yet his never lead his team to the playoffs. At least Dragic put a dagger into the Spurs heart with a 27pt 4th quarter during a playoff series.

ImNotMcDiSwear · Post #197 » by **ImNotMcDiSwear** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:51 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
bigfoot wrote:
sunsbum wrote:Can someone please tell my how the **** you can overate a All NBA 3rd team player that shot an incredible 50/40% and 20ppg? You can hop on the overrated Goran train all you want but you'll just looking really **** silly. That's why there's literally 2 or 3 of you. Listen, Gogi is everything the Suns want in terms of player and personality. He's basically the new age Steve Nash. It would honestly be such an infuriatingly terrible basketball decision if we traded him. Which is why we won't. He wants to be here, management wants him here and Phoenix loves the **** out of him.

Just so people know the 20pt/50/40 club is pretty limited.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... rder_by=ws

If Dragic hits those numbers again this year he is a max player.

Wow, Amare over 40% from 3! 3 for 7

Edit...oh wow..just noticed he did it twice....10 for 23 the other time. Pretty crazy.

#11 on that list turned out not to be untradeable, and not a max level player, as that was, in fact, his peak.

Post #198 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:54 pm

cosmofizzo wrote:
#11 on that list turned out not to be untradeable, and not a max level player, as that was, in fact, his peak.

I think I argued that once. If JDLAW were still around, he would have a lengthy discussion with you about the difference between Barkley and Love. And Barkley WANTED to come here too.

Another difference. Bledsoe is no KJ. In KJ's 2nd-4th years he had three of the best years EVER for a PG. We also had Majerle to play 2. Bledsoe didn't start until his 4th year and couldn't even make it through half a season.

NaturalBuns · Post #199 » by **NaturalBuns** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:57 pm

Why did the bulls amnesty him?
They wouldn't make a move on a expiring guy like that unless they have a plan.
Let's hope it's Stephenson and not Bledsoe

Post #200 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:58 pm

NaturalBuns wrote:Why did the bulls amnesty him?
They wouldn't make a move on a expiring guy like that unless they have a plan.
Let's hope it's Stephenson and not Bledsoe

They had to in order to sign Gasol. They were over the cap. They also have to sign Mirotic. http://data.shamsports.com/content/page ... /bulls.jsp