Bucks looking at Bledsoe, probably.

[Badgerlander]

Really hasn't been given the same opportunity Knight has though. Through their first 2 years Knight has like 1900 more minutes than Henson did. I don't like Henson at all, but I don't doubt he'd be able to put up some pretty meaningless box scores given the minutes like Knight did.

He played 26.5 min a game last year, how much more of an opportunity does he need?

They jerked Henson around last year, insisting that he was a PF before the all star break and yet refusing to start him even when Ersan was out, and then after the all star break they switch him to back up Center. With all of the injuries last year Henson should've easily gotten 30 minutes a night.

[Chuck Diesel]

Who is more productive next season, Henson or Sanders?

[Nowak008]

Isn't he the same guy as Knight so far? Bad player who puts up numbers when given the minutes. Both guys have a long way to go to be worth paying any decent money to.

Oh, I agree. I'd trade Knight in a heartbeat if we got a good deal for him.

If every GM was completely the same in terms of analyzing free agents, and had the same predictive ability of a players talents, then sure, it would matter.

Let's say that's the case - Knight gets more money. If the NBA completely started over and you had to redraft the league, Knight gets drafted before Henson.

[Baddy Chuck]

Who is more productive next season, Henson or Sanders?

What's production to you? Per 36 numbers or something like win shares?

[Badgerlander]

Who is more productive next season, Henson or Sanders?

I bet Henson makes a huge leap this year IF they play him over Zaza, which they had better because there is zero reason to give him playing time on a rebuilding team. Sanders will average a double-double with a lot of blocks and great D, but Henson could come close to 20 and 10 with the attention Jabari should draw plus he is a better passer than Larry which is important in the Princeton offense.

[LUKE23]

Let's say that's the case - Knight gets more money. If the NBA completely started over and you had to redraft the league, Knight gets drafted before Henson.

I find this funny coming from someone who legitimately wanted to take Smart #1 in this past draft.

And no, I think Henson gets drafted over Knight.

[Nowak008]

Henson is the Gumby version of Gooden. Empty points and rebounds. Better ability to challenge shots than Gooden, but that's offset by much less ability to body people. Glaring weaknesses negate everything he does well, and then some. I can't see him not being a liability at any point in his career. No frame to add muscle, and poor mobility.

Of course I can't see Knight improving much either, because you can't teach the things he lacks. But they can at least find a role for him I think. And he plays with heart. I can't see Henson growing a pair at any point.

But the real answer is to try like hell to package them both in a trade for one superior player or a draft pick. That seems obvious to me.

This.

[Todd_Day]

Yeah, I'm down with assessing loss of Henson to help move it along for Bledsoe.

[emunney]

Henson is the Gumby version of Gooden. Empty points and rebounds. Better ability to challenge shots than Gooden, but that's offset by much less ability to body people. Glaring weaknesses negate everything he does well, and then some. I can't see him not being a liability at any point in his career. No frame to add muscle, and poor mobility.

Of course I can't see Knight improving much either, because you can't teach the things he lacks. But they can at least find a role for him I think. And he plays with heart. I can't see Henson growing a pair at any point.

But the real answer is to try like hell to package them both in a trade for one superior player or a draft pick. That seems obvious to me.

I don't get this idea at all. Who cares if he puts a body on a guy when what matters is do their shots go in or not and Henson's rim protection is second to Sanders on the team.

I wasn't just referring to basket defense. It's about boxing out, screens, post defense, etc.

Henson sets good screens. Good timing, doesn't make much contact but he's a tangle to get around. Knight is really, really bad at using screens. Made everybody look bad.

Go back to the previous season and watch Dunleavy and Henson run side PnRs. Money in the bank.

Smart play is to trade Knight now after his 'strong season'. Trade Sanders, too, because somebody will take him, he's owed a lot of money, and he's likely to cost us in draft position. Insert Henson, and then you can make the decision on him next season. Likely you'd be trading him after he puts up a healthy double double.

[Bernman]

I don't know if this is news or not, but I was watching the Bulls-Wolves summer league game, and the Suns' beat guy or or announcer came on, relaying some pertinent info about the Bledsoe situation.

He said that Bledsoe for whatever reason has not yet received substantial offers anywhere near the max from teams to this juncture.

He also said that the new Suns F.O. preaches fiscal responsibility, and in spite claiming they'll match any offer that comes Bledsoe's way, he believes they might not be comfortable paying the max.

He also projected more like a Kyle Lowry, 4/48 deal in the end.

Bledsoe believes he's worth the max, he's not getting offers anywhere near it, and that's the reason for the standstill in this situation right now.

So I do think we are being very realistic in discussing the possibility about Bledsoe on the Bucks. The deal seems to be there to be made, either direct or reasonable s&t, it's probably just a matter of if it's something WE think would be worthwhile at the price monetarily and/or asset-wise.

I'd give up the max, unless the reason for reticence around the league is medical red flags. And if that's not the reason I'd give up Ilyasova/Knight to boot to extract his services. But I wouldn't go anywhere more than that, figuring the Suns won't match anyways. Like I said drafting Ennis and acquiring Thomas was fishy. Then they put it out there they are interested in moving Dragic, I think to throw people off the scent, but I for one am still on it. Dragic is a pimp, IMO even more than Bledsoe, and if they have to choose I think Goran would be their guy. Can't be too worried about them not being his guy either when this is his 2nd stint in Phoenix and he came back there willingly.

[randy84]

I don't know if this is news or not, but I was watching the Bulls-Wolves summer league game, and the Suns' beat guy or or announcer came on, relaying some pertinent info about the Bledsoe situation.

He said that Bledsoe for whatever reason has not yet received substantial offers anywhere near the max from teams to this juncture.

He also said that the new Suns F.O. preaches fiscal responsibility, and in spite claiming they'll match any offer that comes Bledsoe's way, he believes they might not be comfortable paying the max.

He also projected more like a Kyle Lowry, 4/48 deal in the end.

Bledsoe believes he's worth the max, he's not getting offers anywhere near it, and that's the reason for the standstill in this situation right now.

So I do think we are being very realistic in discussing the possibility about Bledsoe on the Bucks. The deal seems to be there to be made, either direct or reasonable s&t, it's probably just a matter of if it's something WE think would be worthwhile at the price monetarily and/or asset-wise.

Bucks need to clear more room for a max offer.

This is why signing guys like Ersan, Mayo, and Zaza come back to haunt us.

[Nowak008]

Let's say that's the case - Knight gets more money. If the NBA completely started over and you had to redraft the league, Knight gets drafted before Henson.

I find this funny coming from someone who legitimately wanted to take Smart #1 in this past draft.

And no, I think Henson gets drafted over Knight.

Not sure what liking Marcus Smart has to do with anything. (Had him #2 on my board FWIW)

[Bernman]

Bucks need to clear more room for a max offer.

Not much. If they were really motivated to acquire Bledsoe like the Rockets were with Bosh, they could put the wheels in motion to clear the room pretty easily. Also, the s&t would be another way to accomplish that.

[Matches Malone]

Bucks need to clear more room for a max offer.

Not much. If they were really motivated to acquire Bledsoe like the Rockets were with Bosh, they could put the wheels in motion to clear the room pretty easily. Also, the s&t would be another way to accomplish that.

They need frontcourt help and we need backcourt help. Offer them Ilyasova and Henson in a sign and trade and move on. I think Ilyasova could flourish in their system and they need a stretch 4. Henson adds depth. Win win for both parties.

[Baddy Chuck]

Bucks need to clear more room for a max offer.

Not much. If they were really motivated to acquire Bledsoe like the Rockets were with Bosh, they could put the wheels in motion to clear the room pretty easily. Also, the s&t would be another way to accomplish that.

I don't think clearing the 3-4 million we'd need to would be absolutely painless. That might be protected first territory.

[Bernman]

They need frontcourt help and we need backcourt help. Offer them Ilyasova and Henson in a sign and trade and move on. I think Ilyasova could flourish in their system and they need a stretch 4. Henson adds depth. Win win for both parties.

We do seem like good prospective trading partners, and I think I'd do that deal too. I just wouldn't part with both the assets of Henson AND Knight, while taking the risk of maxing out a talented but not fully proven guy with a little bit of a sketchy injury history. On our team Knight could potentially the unconventional 2 or 6th man Jason Terry type. And Henson give us 48 minutes of solid center play and potential rim protection. So they would have some value here. Or they'd have value in another trade to yield a higher risk but higher reward potential core player in the form of a younger prospect or draft pick. Conceding them both would be too steep of a price, for the privileging of maxing out Bledsoe then, and especially since we probably wouldn't need to give up anything unless we couldn't open up space another way, or would have to give up an asset anyway.

[randy84]

They need frontcourt help and we need backcourt help. Offer them Ilyasova and Henson in a sign and trade and move on. I think Ilyasova could flourish in their system and they need a stretch 4. Henson adds depth. Win win for both parties.

We do seem like good prospective trading partners, and I think I'd do that deal too. I just wouldn't part with both the assets of Henson AND Knight, while taking the risk of maxing out a talented but not fully proven guy with a little bit of a sketchy injury history. On our team Knight could potentially the unconventional 2 or 6th man Jason Terry type. And Henson give us 48 minutes of solid center play and potential rim protection. So they would have some value here. Or they'd have value in another trade to yield a higher risk but higher reward potential core player in the form of a younger prospect or draft pick. Conceding them both would be too steep of a price, for the privileging of maxing out Bledsoe then, and especially since we probably wouldn't need to give up anything unless we couldn't open up space another way, or would have to give up an asset anyway.

Just offer him a max contract and then figure out a sign and traded if needed.

[EastSideBucksFan]

Much rather do Knight/Ersan for Bledsoe for roster balance and I think Henson could make a jump this year.

But if it's Ersan/Henson or no deal, then I pull the trigger.

[AussieBuck]

Henson and Carlos for Gobert clears about $4 million.

[VooDoo7]

Woelfel definitely has some sources throughout the NBA, but unfortunately he's such a biased turd nobody takes him seriously.

I'm willing to bet our sources are just as good as Gery's. He "hears whispers" in bars and on the intenet, and voila, there's his sources.