The Marvin Gaye Williams Thread

[Liver_Pooty]

2016 FA class is STACKED.

New TV deal comes into play, salary cap projected at 80+ million.

we gonna throw the house at Anthony Davis

Just another reason to keep MKG around

Us along with 29 other teams are going to throw the house at Anthony Davis. Just like Washington is going to throw the house at Durant. Its a pipedream.

[RichBoy923]

we gonna throw the house at Anthony Davis

Just another reason to keep MKG around

Us along with 29 other teams are going to throw the house at Anthony Davis. Just like Washington is going to throw the house at Durant. Its a pipedream.

I was being facetious. Not even worried about 2 yrs down the road.

[Liver_Pooty]

Just another reason to keep MKG around

Us along with 29 other teams are going to throw the house at Anthony Davis. Just like Washington is going to throw the house at Durant. Its a pipedream.

I was being facetious. Not even worried about 2 yrs down the road.

We may as well look forward to two years down the road if we don't sign anyone else, because we may not even be a playoff team this upcoming season as the roster currently is.

[Elden Payton]

Us along with 29 other teams are going to throw the house at Anthony Davis. Just like Washington is going to throw the house at Durant. Its a pipedream.

I was being facetious. Not even worried about 2 yrs down the road.

We may as well look forward to two years down the road if we don't sign anyone else, because we may not even be a playoff team this upcoming season as the roster currently is.

Worst case is that we do miss the playoffs and end up with another lotto talent.

Teams have been rebuilding longer than us, and are still in a worse position compared to us, so I'm not worried.

[JDR720]

I think we have to much young talent to get stuck on the treadmill but its definitely possible if they dont develop well

[SpearNMgicHelmt]

One thing I like about the Marvin signing is that we now have somebody other than MKG with size that can defend larger small forwards when MKG gets into foul trouble. It's not right to ask Taylor to guard somebody like Carmelo.

[mrknowitall215]

One thing I like about the Marvin signing is that we now have somebody other than MKG with size that can defend larger small forwards when MKG gets into foul trouble. It's not right to ask Taylor to guard somebody like Carmelo.

Good point. This might be the first silver lining statement that I've read about this signing that make sense. Now the question is can he still defend the SF position legitimately with his sore Achilles tendon

[SpearNMgicHelmt]

One thing I like about the Marvin signing is that we now have somebody other than MKG with size that can defend larger small forwards when MKG gets into foul trouble. It's not right to ask Taylor to guard somebody like Carmelo.

Good point. This might be the first silver lining statement that I've read about this signing that make sense. Now the question is can he still defend the SF position legitimately with his sore Achilles tendon

Let's hope so. Because MKG simply does not get any benefit of the doubt with the refs, particularly with offensive fouls. I think part of it is that he has unusual body language when he's making his moves that makes it seem like he's plowing over people more than he really is.

[TheKingofSting]

I am sure he will start at the 4. They had to get Coach Cliff a vet he wasn't happy at all about McRoberts walking.

[BleedTeal]

Think of it this way, at least they're doing something of impact instead of remaining stagnant in the FA game

[yosemiteben]

Marvin Williams:


Kris Humphries:


There's your answer for why we wanted Marvin over Humphries.

[Robot Rock]

When I think about how this deal makes it tougher to extend Kemba, and when I think about how extending Kemba has not been a priority at all, I get pretty pissed off.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

SMH. Misplaced anger. This is a short deal that makes resigning our guys easier in the long run.

[Robot Rock]

SMH. Misplaced anger. This is a short deal that makes resigning our guys easier in the long run.

How does a deal that ends in 2016 make it easier to sign players whose contracts end in 2015, and need that money to afford?

[BlackOutBuzz]

Well, for starters, we only have $43.4m committed in salaries next season, and the cap is projected to be $66.5m. And that's IF Al and Hendo opt in, if they opt out we'll have $23.6m.

[duke11693]

Would rather get Boozer for two years than this guy

[catch20two]

Would rather get Boozer for two years than this guy

Too late. We already signed Messy Marv. I don't like Boozer but he's at least 2-3 tiers better than Messy Marv.

[TheKingofSting]

Hopefully we get Boozer even though who knows where that leaves Messy Marv.

[mrknowitall215]

NBA Free Agency 2014: Exploring Marvin Williams’ Fit With Hornets

With the dominoes continuing to fall at a rapid rate, Charlotte stealthily picked their hand through the slew of remaining free agents, and filled a need by signing veteran Marvin Williams to 2 year/$14 million dollar deal. While the league-wide reputation surrounding Williams might be negative because of how he was unable to meet lofty expectations after he was selected 2nd overall in the 2005 draft, the 6’8 forward has been able to be create his niche as a solid role player in this league.

During his two-year stint with the Jazz, the 6’8 Williams was able to continue to quietly develop his overall offensive arsenal. While he definitely showed small glimpses during his time with the Hawks, Williams was able to develop into a solid perimeter option. That new talent is clearly showcased by an extremely solid 35% shooting percentage from beyond the arc during the 2013-14 season.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpxHRfi_44A[/youtube]

In a strange way, Williams’ continued improvement and subsequent reliance on his perimeter jumper has negatively impacted the rest of his offense. During his time in Atlanta, Williams heavily relied on the combination of quickness and overall athleticism which lead to him being a pretty dangerous offensive penetrator. Per 36 minutes, Williams averaged around 4.4 free throw attempts during his seven year stint with the Hawks. Even though it isn’t that impressive, that version of Williams looks like the 2nd coming of James Harden compared to the current iteration. Perhaps the strangest aspect would be the fact that his True Shooting Percentage (TS%) has continued to drop despite his improvement from the perimeter.

With Williams embarking on this transition to the Eastern Conference and the Charlotte Hornets, it’ll definitely be interesting to see how Clifford inserts him into their offensive rotation. While his perimeter skills are definitely going to make a positive impact on Charlotte, his overall offensive approach is definitely going to be put in question because of how inconsistent he was in Utah. Despite the fact that he might not be the same athlete that he was during his time with Atlanta, he’s definitely still capable of being able to cut to the basket on a consistent basis.

As we transition to the defensive end, Williams’ potential stock with the Hornets becomes a lot more of a question mark. Even though the 6’8 forward does show glimpses of being a solid defender, Williams does struggle to consistently stay ahead of the opposition. Perhaps it’s because of the slow decline of athleticism but he still struggles with the majority of aspects of the defensive end of the court. Per Synergy Sports, opponents averaged 1 PPP (Points Per Possession) against Williams, which is well below league average.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdVgJtpe6Y4[/youtube]

With his defensive and offensive consistency issues in mind, Williams definitely does add some depth to the Hornets lineup. Standing at 6’8, Williams does have the ability to play and defend multiple positions. While he’s not the best defender in the world, Coach Clifford should definitely be able to find a solid fit in Charlotte’s rotation for Marvin Williams.

Even though his overall value might exceed his hefty 2 year/$14 million dollar price tag, his perimeter ability and potential as a utility forward could definitely turn Marvin Williams into a valuable rotation player for Charlotte.

http://queencityhoops.com/blog/nba-free ... t-hornets/

Oh well. I just hope we don't try to play him as much as he's paid

[LofJ]

If Marvin is at least decent for us hopefully we'll be able to flip him for Ilyasova down the road.